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calebxy wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Kaj_Aliv wrote:

Really? REALLY? Just take out DarkRP from your file(unless you were playing on a server other than your own).

My (completely technologically challenged) Mom heard me mention I was an assassin to my cousin who was watching me and took that as the main point of the game saying "You know we don't let you play shoot 'em games hurr durr"

I presume you're talking about Assassin's Creed. If so, then that is the point of the game, right? I mean, you're an assassin. The point is to kill people. Why would you even want to play something like that? You enjoy playing games where you have the pleasure of pretending to murder people? Anyone who enjoys playing those types of games is in my opinion slightly sadistic.

Dude take a chill pill. Assassins Creed from what I can see isn't about JUST killing people it's about completing an objective like all games are. It just so happens that you kill people along the way. GEE WHIZ WHAT A SHOCKER. I mean, chess is a game about killing people. They just couldn't add blood, but if they could of I bet they would of. It's the game play not the killing people that is the entertainment. You want a good example of this? Take Manhunt 2. Apparently somebody did like violence a little too much and decided to make a game that actually WAS about murder. But the game wasn't good gameplay-wise and plus the deaths were too gruesome, so nobody wanted to buy it and nobody wanted to sell it either. TF2 is a game where you try to capture the other teams control points or their "flag" ( a briefcase.) Instead of tagging the other team of course you shoot them. But the main idea of the game isn't exactly the killing people it's keeping people away from your flag or control points. For some people the violence may be a plus (I am not one of those people.) but it isn't really the point.

Last edited by PW132 (2011-07-27 15:34:31)

PW132 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

My (completely technologically challenged) Mom heard me mention I was an assassin to my cousin who was watching me and took that as the main point of the game saying "You know we don't let you play shoot 'em games hurr durr"

I presume you're talking about Assassin's Creed. If so, then that is the point of the game, right? I mean, you're an assassin. The point is to kill people. Why would you even want to play something like that? You enjoy playing games where you have the pleasure of pretending to murder people? Anyone who enjoys playing those types of games is in my opinion slightly sadistic.

Dude take a chill pill. Assassins Creed from what I can see isn't about JUST killing people it's about completing an objective like all games are. It just so happens that you kill people along the way. GEE WHIZ WHAT A SHOCKER. I mean, chess is a game about killing people. They just couldn't add blood, but if they could of I bet they would of. It's the game play not the killing people that is the entertainment. You want a good example of this? Take Manhunt 2. Apparently somebody did like violence a little too much and decided to make a game that actually WAS about murder. But the game wasn't good gameplay-wise and plus the deaths were too gruesome, so nobody wanted to buy it and nobody wanted to sell it either. TF2 is a game where you try to capture the other teams control points or their "flag" ( a briefcase.) Instead of tagging the other team of course you shoot them. But the main idea of the game isn't exactly the killing people it's keeping people away from your flag or control points. For some people the violence may be a plus but it isn't really the point.

Not to mention I wasn't playing Assasin's Creed.

The root of that quote chain was me mentioning my mom didn't want me to play Gmod cause she heard me saying I became an assassin. And while in that game you can become one, it is very far from the point of it, and is only possible if you are playing one a server with a mod. She also called it a "shoot 'em" game which it is very far from.

But you still have good points PW my sir.

Plus they come back to life anyway. Being an assassin in that game is like being payed to focus on tagging one person in a game of tag. There's hardly a consequence to it in the game, in real life there is a consequence. We all realize that in real life they will not come back and none of us would do that in real life.

Last edited by soupoftomato (2011-07-27 15:37:12)

PandaGuy wrote:

sanddude wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

+1

And enough about the gameplay, people! Whether it's for the violence or not, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is it's M-rated and whatever you do, don't play it. You're too young for the last darn time! 

Lastly, if your parents disagree with the game as it is too mature, don't try to convince them or hide it from them. A game is a game and it doesn't matter. Go buy a game that your parents will agree on, like Super Mario or something. Or (here's a thought) get a book and read.

Usually, for a truly bad effect to happen as a cause of a game, movie, TV show, etc. the person has to ALREADY be emotionally or mentally disturbed. An average person doesn't go from perfectly sane to a murderer JUST from consuming media.

Is the person really too young? For all we know, he could be really mature, and can handle stuff like that. He's a teenager from what I gathered, and by that age most people are old enough to know "reality" and "fantasy".

And don't point me to a bunch of studies about violent video games desensitizing kids. There are countless studies on both sides of the argument, so studies can't be used as a consensus for either side.

Violence in general isn't always bad. However, blood spewing all over the place and people dying everywhere isn't a kid or teen-friendly scenario.

Because when you really murder NOTHING spews. It's all kid friendly, there's no consequence.

But in all seriousness, that top sentence was to demonstrate that I think it's better they leave it in than to desensitize them by making them believe it will not happen.

soupoftomato wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

sanddude wrote:

Usually, for a truly bad effect to happen as a cause of a game, movie, TV show, etc. the person has to ALREADY be emotionally or mentally disturbed. An average person doesn't go from perfectly sane to a murderer JUST from consuming media.

Is the person really too young? For all we know, he could be really mature, and can handle stuff like that. He's a teenager from what I gathered, and by that age most people are old enough to know "reality" and "fantasy".

And don't point me to a bunch of studies about violent video games desensitizing kids. There are countless studies on both sides of the argument, so studies can't be used as a consensus for either side.

Violence in general isn't always bad. However, blood spewing all over the place and people dying everywhere isn't a kid or teen-friendly scenario.

Because when you really murder NOTHING spews. It's all kid friendly, there's no consequence.

But in all seriousness, that top sentence was to demonstrate that I think it's better they leave it in than to desensitize them by making them believe it will not happen.

Rather than desensitize them by making them pretend to commit the acts of violence?

DarkerWorld wrote:

calebxy wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

My (completely technologically challenged) Mom heard me mention I was an assassin to my cousin who was watching me and took that as the main point of the game saying "You know we don't let you play shoot 'em games hurr durr"

I presume you're talking about Assassin's Creed. If so, then that is the point of the game, right? I mean, you're an assassin. The point is to kill people. Why would you even want to play something like that? You enjoy playing games where you have the pleasure of pretending to murder people? Anyone who enjoys playing those types of games is in my opinion slightly sadistic.

Its people like this who probably have never played nor tried a "sadistic" game.

As sanddude said, yes, you are correct. I don't buy or play video games which involves committing serious acts of violence.

08jackt wrote:

calebxy wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Seriously! An M rated game? I wouldn't play it even if I WAS over the age limit... I don't know what makes people want to play those games with blood and everything...

Its de-sensitizing... like what happens to people after they go to war as a soldier and see all the horrible stuff... imagine that happening to a 14 year old! Its horrific! 

Exactly. And I'm over 12, but I don't play most 12 (that's what it's called in England, at least) rated games. I think the only 12 rated game I'm fine with playing is Tron Evolution. I'd NEVER want to play a game which involves committing acts of violence.

so you've never played mario?

Yes, I have, but there's a difference.

1. It's not graphic at all.
2. It's cartoon graphics (doesn't make much difference (to me at least) but it's something).
3. You're jumping on walking mushrooms!

sanddude wrote:

Tell them that you're probably going to see and hear most of these things through other sources, and there's no use protecting you from it, because you're already going to hear it somehow.

Yeah, but you don't need to FUEL it!

svinnik wrote:

This got big. Wow. Anyways, my parents said no.

I guess this means the thread should be closed?

Will someone please tell me why calexby is ignoring all my posts?

Um, caleb, the more (realistic) the graphic violence is the less it desentawhatevers because you know it's a consequence.

PW132 wrote:

Will someone please tell me why calexby is ignoring all my posts?

Such as?

PW132 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

sanddude wrote:

People often use as an OUTLET for violent impulses.

Yeah, and pretending to kill people is really gonna help you learn self control. [/sarcasm]

Quiet. Though I am not one that believes video games discourage violence, I certainly do not believe they encourage it in real life. You may point to cases like the unfortunate shootings during the 90s involving teenagers which was connected to video games in the media as causing the behaviors. I believe instead that some violent video games may instead just attract people who already have the behavior. Not to say all people who play Call of Duty are psychos, quite the contrary, I know many, many well-adjusted people who play titles such as Call of Duty. (Though you may not be able to believe it looking at the typical match, I will admit.)

When you said "quite" were you agreeing with me not not?