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bananaman114 wrote:

EDIT; If a soldier is killed in battle in Afgan, did not the Taliban murder him?

IMO, no. we shot at them, they shot at us, that isn't murder IMO. 

16Skittles wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

EDIT; If a soldier is killed in battle in Afgan, did not the Taliban murder him?

IMO, no. we shot at them, they shot at us, that isn't murder IMO. 

So a criminal shooting a police man in a gun battle isn't murder?

bananaman114 wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

EDIT; If a soldier is killed in battle in Afgan, did not the Taliban murder him?

IMO, no. we shot at them, they shot at us, that isn't murder IMO. 

So a criminal shooting a police man in a gun battle isn't murder?

No, not really, I think thats a gun fight.
I mean, who you have to shoot or be shot.

Last edited by DarkerWorld (2011-07-27 09:10:06)

Im lucky cos my brothers 15 and i get to play his games. Black Ops is in no way scary -_-

DarkerWorld wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:

No, not really, I think thats a gun fight.
I mean, who you have to shoot or be shot.

Murder; to kill with premeditated malice.

Back on topic.

Wait, so you are saying if a police man and you are in a gun fight, you wouldn't fight for your life?

+1.
and if you're the officer and you shoot the criminal, is that murder?

Edit: let's stop talking about ethics and get back on topic.

Last edited by 16Skittles (2011-07-27 11:06:42)

jji7skyline wrote:

hdarken wrote:

Wait untill your birthday, or make a deal with your parents.

I would'nt wait untill you are 18 or what they say you should be.

Seriously! An M rated game? I wouldn't play it even if I WAS over the age limit... I don't know what makes people want to play those games with blood and everything...

Its de-sensitizing... like what happens to people after they go to war as a soldier and see all the horrible stuff... imagine that happening to a 14 year old! Its horrific! 

+1

And enough about the gameplay, people! Whether it's for the violence or not, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is it's M-rated and whatever you do, don't play it. You're too young for the last darn time! 

Lastly, if your parents disagree with the game as it is too mature, don't try to convince them or hide it from them. A game is a game and it doesn't matter. Go buy a game that your parents will agree on, like Super Mario or something. Or (here's a thought) get a book and read.

At jii7, so even if you were plenty old enough to play it by the guideline given you would choose to miss out on some of the best games being made because they're violent?

And I don't see why you guys try so hard to tell us what games we should play or even find yourself in a position to tell us what to play.

PandaGuy wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

hdarken wrote:

Wait untill your birthday, or make a deal with your parents.

I would'nt wait untill you are 18 or what they say you should be.

Seriously! An M rated game? I wouldn't play it even if I WAS over the age limit... I don't know what makes people want to play those games with blood and everything...

Its de-sensitizing... like what happens to people after they go to war as a soldier and see all the horrible stuff... imagine that happening to a 14 year old! Its horrific! 

+1

And enough about the gameplay, people! Whether it's for the violence or not, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is it's M-rated and whatever you do, don't play it. You're too young for the last darn time! 

Lastly, if your parents disagree with the game as it is too mature, don't try to convince them or hide it from them. A game is a game and it doesn't matter. Go buy a game that your parents will agree on, like Super Mario or something. Or (here's a thought) get a book and read.

Usually, for a truly bad effect to happen as a cause of a game, movie, TV show, etc. the person has to ALREADY be emotionally or mentally disturbed. An average person doesn't go from perfectly sane to a murderer JUST from consuming media.

Is the person really too young? For all we know, he could be really mature, and can handle stuff like that. He's a teenager from what I gathered, and by that age most people are old enough to know "reality" and "fantasy".

And don't point me to a bunch of studies about violent video games desensitizing kids. There are countless studies on both sides of the argument, so studies can't be used as a consensus for either side.

DarkerWorld wrote:

sanddude wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

+1

And enough about the gameplay, people! Whether it's for the violence or not, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is it's M-rated and whatever you do, don't play it. You're too young for the last darn time! 

Lastly, if your parents disagree with the game as it is too mature, don't try to convince them or hide it from them. A game is a game and it doesn't matter. Go buy a game that your parents will agree on, like Super Mario or something. Or (here's a thought) get a book and read.

Usually, for a truly bad effect to happen as a cause of a game, movie, TV show, etc. the person has to ALREADY be emotionally or mentally disturbed. An average person doesn't go from perfectly sane to a murderer JUST from consuming media.

Is the person really too young? For all we know, he could be really mature, and can handle stuff like that. He's a teenager from what I gathered, and by that age most people are old enough to know "reality" and "fantasy".

And don't point me to a bunch of studies about violent video games desensitizing kids. There are countless studies on both sides of the argument, so studies can't be used as a consensus for either side.

Sanddude sure is good at ranting.

Yes, he sure is. 

Here are studies that suggest that there isn't a direct correlation between playing violent video games and real-life violence.

http://www.switched.com/2009/01/26/scho … tudy-says/
http://www.switched.com/2008/05/17/viol … -new-book/
http://www.physorg.com/news5758.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Mos … 55463.html
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/02/28/viol … ociologist
http://kotaku.com/5814601/violent-video … y-suggests
http://razetheworld.com/forum/topic/yal … l-violence

sanddude wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:

DarkerWorld wrote:

Sanddude sure is good at ranting.

Yes, he sure is. 

Wait. Is this a compliment or a sarcastic insult?

No, it's a compliment with the cool smiley. 

sanddude wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Seriously! An M rated game? I wouldn't play it even if I WAS over the age limit... I don't know what makes people want to play those games with blood and everything...

Its de-sensitizing... like what happens to people after they go to war as a soldier and see all the horrible stuff... imagine that happening to a 14 year old! Its horrific! 

+1

And enough about the gameplay, people! Whether it's for the violence or not, it doesn't matter. The bottom line is it's M-rated and whatever you do, don't play it. You're too young for the last darn time! 

Lastly, if your parents disagree with the game as it is too mature, don't try to convince them or hide it from them. A game is a game and it doesn't matter. Go buy a game that your parents will agree on, like Super Mario or something. Or (here's a thought) get a book and read.

Usually, for a truly bad effect to happen as a cause of a game, movie, TV show, etc. the person has to ALREADY be emotionally or mentally disturbed. An average person doesn't go from perfectly sane to a murderer JUST from consuming media.

Is the person really too young? For all we know, he could be really mature, and can handle stuff like that. He's a teenager from what I gathered, and by that age most people are old enough to know "reality" and "fantasy".

And don't point me to a bunch of studies about violent video games desensitizing kids. There are countless studies on both sides of the argument, so studies can't be used as a consensus for either side.

Yes, you have a good point. However, people subconsciously pick up some of the material they see on TV or in media itself. It's possible to avoid this, but most of the time, kids are just playing their way through, not even considering the consequences. Now, I'm not telling him to stop playing violent video games altogether because, well, it's simply not my business. I'm just telling him, if his parents don't agree, don't do it. Simple as that.

Also, just because he's supposedly "mature" and he's old enough to tell "reality" apart from "fantasy", it doesn't mean he's too old to pick up some of the traits he sees in the game. It seems you guys are taking this situation too lightly. Violence in general isn't always bad. However, blood spewing all over the place and people dying everywhere isn't a kid or teen-friendly scenario. You have to consider this sometimes. Ask yourself, "Is this really fine?" or "Should I be doing this?" You have to at least feel some consideration when you play these games, right? If not, something might be wrong.

P.S. Trying to convince them is just pushing it and lowering your chances of possibly getting the game to begin with.

Last edited by PandaGuy (2011-07-27 14:13:44)

calebxy wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Kaj_Aliv wrote:

Really? REALLY? Just take out DarkRP from your file(unless you were playing on a server other than your own).

My (completely technologically challenged) Mom heard me mention I was an assassin to my cousin who was watching me and took that as the main point of the game saying "You know we don't let you play shoot 'em games hurr durr"

I presume you're talking about Assassin's Creed. If so, then that is the point of the game, right? I mean, you're an assassin. The point is to kill people. Why would you even want to play something like that? You enjoy playing games where you have the pleasure of pretending to murder people? Anyone who enjoys playing those types of games is in my opinion slightly sadistic.

Its people like this who probably have never played nor tried a "sadistic" game.