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brettman98 · 2011-07-13 16:38:08

Trekkie210 wrote:
brettman98 wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:

Count yourself lucky.
I'm lost. Story please :]
A couple years ago, a user named Doody (she's still on, too) posted TONS of projects (at least 15 a day). The thing is, they were PICTURES (think stick people drawings). Even worse THEY KEPT GETTING FRONT PAGED.

And she had fans, too. Lots of 'em.

So it went on like this for a month or two until a group of people, who didn't like the fact that these projects were getting front paged all the time, told Doody so.

And her fans were MAD.

They started flagging the "haters" comments and projects. Finally, Doody was banned for using multiple accounts to post negative comments (one of the first Scratch conspiracies).

A little while later, after hundreds of "Bring back Doody" petitions, projects, and fan-art; Doody was unbanned, and she has been to this day. Nowadays, she doesn't post as many comments or projects, and her drawings actually have gotten (slightly) better.
UPDATE! She seems to have deleted most of her projects.
http://scratch.mit.edu/users/Doody

Hope you liked the history lesson.

aye aye capitan.

I understand now.

Trekkie210 · 2011-07-13 16:39:16

ssss wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:
DarkerWorld wrote:
You haven't been here longer than 80% of us, the 07'ers and 08'ers are the rarest.

And hoho I've been here longer than you too and I knew Doody.

But anyway, yeah it is stupid.
HAHAHA That's what you think! Actually this is my second acount. I forgot the password to my first one.
What was your first one? I still have been here longer than you

I'd rather not say what is was...

but I joined sometime in 2007.

Trekkie210 · 2011-07-13 16:41:00

imnotbob wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:
Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:
I'm sad because nobody ever comments on my projects

I wasn't here for the Doody Incident but I've spoken to people who were and Doody herself
Count yourself lucky.
Wuts the doody incident?

Here.

Trekkie210 wrote:
A couple years ago, a user named Doody (she's still on, too) posted TONS of projects (at least 15 a day). The thing is, they were PICTURES (think stick people drawings). Even worse THEY KEPT GETTING FRONT PAGED.

And she had fans, too. Lots of 'em.

So it went on like this for a month or two until a group of people, who didn't like the fact that these projects were getting front paged all the time, told Doody so.

And her fans were MAD.

They started flagging the "haters" comments and projects. Finally, Doody was banned for using multiple accounts to post negative comments (one of the first Scratch conspiracies).

A little while later, after hundreds of "Bring back Doody" petitions, projects, and fan-art; Doody was unbanned, and she has been to this day. Nowadays, she doesn't post as many comments or projects, and her drawings actually have gotten (slightly) better.
UPDATE! She seems to have deleted most of her projects.
http://scratch.mit.edu/users/Doody

Hope you liked the history lesson.

PandaGuy · 2011-07-13 16:41:21

Trekkie210 wrote:
If this is in the wrong section, please feel free to move it.

Ok, here it is, in black and white. Simplest form. I normally try to keep a calm and reserved attitude here on Scratch, but there is an issue that NEEDS to be cleared up.

So here, it goes. I've been looking at a lot of front paged projects, and I've notice people posting things like this: (note this is a made up conversation to demonstrate my point)

No offense, but why is this project front paged? All it is is a single screen with a line of text and no coding.
Or:

I guess this is Ok, but I would do...etc.
You get the point. These people present their point, while trying to be as inoffensive as possible. They present their points with FACTS not "oh this is so boring" or "this is stupid111111".

Then, the groupies descend on them and post junk like this:

Can you do any better?
Or:

You're stupid
Or:

SHUT UP AND GO AWAY
Or:

EDIT!
ur just jealous
Actually saw this one!

Is this really fair? NO! If a comment leaves suggestions on what to improve, it is considered constructive criticism. The mindless fanboys (or girls) swoop down on these comments and bombard them with comments while spewing HATE.

Just to salvage my credibility, I am a long time member of Scratch. I have been here longer than about 80% of you, and I've seen things. Anyone here remember Doody? Or the NEAR WAR the fanboys caused? Probably not. Anyway, if someone doesn't like a project, that's THEIR opinion. And if a lot of people dislike something, it means one of three things:

1. That thing is NO GOOD

-Or-

2. The thing in question is total trollbait

-Or-

3. They LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS THAN YOU.

Just because you're obsessed with Astro, Swifty, or MrMime doesn't me other people have to be.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read, comment, and tell me your opinions on the matter.

No, it's not fair. In fact, I hate it. People who do that really need to get a life. Someone once said "it sucks" on my one of my projects, so I took a look at his and they were no better than mine! mad

And, yes, I do agree that not everyone has to like the same thing. People shouldn't spew hate because it'll just deepen the problem. I've learned that the hard way a couple of times.

Last edited by PandaGuy (2011-07-13 16:43:21)

sanddude · 2011-07-13 16:45:56

When it comes to fanboys/fangirls (or anybody for that matter, but it's the fanboys and fangirls who do it most) going against criticizing something, they always use:

1. You're just jealous
2. You need to get a life.
3. If you don't like it, just don't go to the project/listen to the song/watch the movie/etc.
4. Haters make them famous.

All of these are horrible arguments. I totally agree with the OP.

Miss_Webgal · 2011-07-13 16:48:21

Trekkie210 wrote:
Anyone here remember Doody?

Um, excuse me, it's Doodle. >_<

But I agree. Constructive criticism=/=Hate.

sanddude wrote:
3. If you don't like it, just don't go to the projet/listen to the song/watch the movie/etc.

But, imo, this ISN'T horrible.

Fine, if it's used when the "hate" is actually constructive criticism, it shouldn't be used (nor anything).

But on actual hate, it's true. Besides, why watch/listen to/whatever something if you don't like it just hate on it, rather than watching/listening to/whatevering something you actually like?

Last edited by Miss_Webgal (2011-07-13 16:53:19)

Scratchthatguys · 2011-07-13 18:02:04

Has anyone seen the Evolution Argument? I looked at a project about evolution and saw a huge flame war. sad

Aidan · 2011-07-13 19:01:11

I like the people who say "Can you do any better" because I get to say "Actually, yes"

brettman98 · 2011-07-13 19:15:12

Scratchthatguys wrote:
Has anyone seen the Evolution Argument? I looked at a project about evolution and saw a huge flame war.

sadly mayhem seems to cause a lot of flame wars with his utter disregard of any faith except the faith in science :c

SpriteMaster · 2011-07-13 20:02:19

People who hate usually are just doing it for fun.

some random hater this is a true story wrote:
This stinks.

I wrote:
How?

I never got an answer. It's been 3 months now and I've replied several times. He's made projects in that time, so obviously he never had a good reason.

veggieman001 · 2011-07-13 20:06:00

Miss_Webgal wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:
Anyone here remember Doody?
Um, excuse me, it's Doodle. >_<

Doodle? They're talking about Doody.

Onyxsbayne · 2011-07-13 22:30:44

Scratchthatguys wrote:
Has anyone seen the Evolution Argument? I looked at a project about evolution and saw a huge flame war.

Personally, i don't think religion should be a discussion on Scratch. I'm atheist and believe in evolution and stuff and tend to get into heated arguments about it.

Ace-Of-Hearts · 2011-07-14 01:36:39

veggieman001 wrote:
Miss_Webgal wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:
Anyone here remember Doody?
Um, excuse me, it's Doodle. >_<
Doodle? They're talking about Doody.

Yeah that's what her name was going to be but it was taken, and she didn't know Doody meant.. you know

LordSydney · 2011-07-14 02:22:01

I joined back in 2007. I stayed for about 9 or so months, made some semi-good projects, and life caught up with me...I never used the forums at all back then...apparently I was the 30,000th user... yeah...yeah...Old times...I am sad because I left...When I look back I wish I had stayed...

degscratcher · 2011-07-14 05:50:18

Trekkie210 wrote:
Just to salvage my credibility, I am a long time member of Scratch. I have been here longer than about 80% of you, and I've seen things. Anyone here remember Doody? Or the NEAR WAR the fanboys caused? Probably not. Anyway, if someone doesn't like a project, that's THEIR opinion. And if a lot of people dislike something, it means one of three things:

No, you haven't joined earlier than 80% of us. 80% of us joined before YOU!

scratcher7_13 · 2011-07-14 06:42:43

Did you have a different account?

08jackt · 2011-07-14 07:50:03

Trekkie210 wrote:
brettman98 wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:
Count yourself lucky.
I'm lost. Story please :]
A couple years ago, a user named Doody (she's still on, too) posted TONS of projects (at least 15 a day). The thing is, they were PICTURES (think stick people drawings). Even worse THEY KEPT GETTING FRONT PAGED.

And she had fans, too. Lots of 'em.

So it went on like this for a month or two until a group of people, who didn't like the fact that these projects were getting front paged all the time, told Doody so.

And her fans were MAD.

They started flagging the "haters" comments and projects. Finally, Doody was banned for using multiple accounts to post negative comments (one of the first Scratch conspiracies).

A little while later, after hundreds of "Bring back Doody" petitions, projects, and fan-art; Doody was unbanned, and she has been to this day. Nowadays, she doesn't post as many comments or projects, and her drawings actually have gotten (slightly) better.
UPDATE! She seems to have deleted most of her projects.
http://scratch.mit.edu/users/Doody

Hope you liked the history lesson.

coming from a person that was actually there,
there was also a weird rumor about flipping around "Doody" and it spelt something. don't really remember, but people were also saying she was like a 40 year old man.
she also made a project that said her little sister died and later it turned out there was no sister.
i was a hater.

anyone remember the Tsunami_Enterprise thing? that was the best scratch drama thingy.

BUT ANYWAY

Last edited by 08jackt (2011-07-14 07:53:00)

Trekkie210 · 2011-07-14 10:20:54

scratcher7_13 wrote:
Did you have a different account?

Yes.

Trekkie210 · 2011-07-14 10:24:29

08jackt wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:
brettman98 wrote:

I'm lost. Story please :]
A couple years ago, a user named Doody (she's still on, too) posted TONS of projects (at least 15 a day). The thing is, they were PICTURES (think stick people drawings). Even worse THEY KEPT GETTING FRONT PAGED.

And she had fans, too. Lots of 'em.

So it went on like this for a month or two until a group of people, who didn't like the fact that these projects were getting front paged all the time, told Doody so.

And her fans were MAD.

They started flagging the "haters" comments and projects. Finally, Doody was banned for using multiple accounts to post negative comments (one of the first Scratch conspiracies).

A little while later, after hundreds of "Bring back Doody" petitions, projects, and fan-art; Doody was unbanned, and she has been to this day. Nowadays, she doesn't post as many comments or projects, and her drawings actually have gotten (slightly) better.
UPDATE! She seems to have deleted most of her projects.
http://scratch.mit.edu/users/Doody

Hope you liked the history lesson.
coming from a person that was actually there,
there was also a weird rumor about flipping around "Doody" and it spelt something. don't really remember, but people were also saying she was like a 40 year old man.
she also made a project that said her little sister died and later it turned out there was no sister.
i was a hater.

anyone remember the Tsunami_Enterprise thing? that was the best scratch drama thingy.

BUT ANYWAY

Are you implying I wasn't there? I've been here since 2007 (on a different acount). But yeah, I wasn't a big Doody fan either. But about the rumor, I always heard she was like 20 or something.

Trekkie210 · 2011-07-14 10:26:31

LordSydney wrote:
I joined back in 2007. I stayed for about 9 or so months, made some semi-good projects, and life caught up with me...I never used the forums at all back then...apparently I was the 30,000th user... yeah...yeah...Old times...I am sad because I left...When I look back I wish I had stayed...

I wished I had time to enjoy pre-2009 Scratch more. After that everything went downhill. I mean, Scratch is still ok, but do you remember the good old days, when everyone pretty much new each other?

Last edited by Trekkie210 (2011-07-14 10:27:08)

SpriteMaster · 2011-07-14 11:31:59

Trekkie210 wrote:
LordSydney wrote:
I joined back in 2007. I stayed for about 9 or so months, made some semi-good projects, and life caught up with me...I never used the forums at all back then...apparently I was the 30,000th user... yeah...yeah...Old times...I am sad because I left...When I look back I wish I had stayed...
I wished I had time to enjoy pre-2009 Scratch more. After that everything went downhill. I mean, Scratch is still ok, but do you remember the good old days, when everyone pretty much new each other?

Let's not go down the 'Yesterday was better' road, and say that. I think we had a big discussion about it and it never got resolved.

imnotbob · 2011-07-14 12:02:41

08jackt wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:
brettman98 wrote:

I'm lost. Story please :]
A couple years ago, a user named Doody (she's still on, too) posted TONS of projects (at least 15 a day). The thing is, they were PICTURES (think stick people drawings). Even worse THEY KEPT GETTING FRONT PAGED.

And she had fans, too. Lots of 'em.

So it went on like this for a month or two until a group of people, who didn't like the fact that these projects were getting front paged all the time, told Doody so.

And her fans were MAD.

They started flagging the "haters" comments and projects. Finally, Doody was banned for using multiple accounts to post negative comments (one of the first Scratch conspiracies).

A little while later, after hundreds of "Bring back Doody" petitions, projects, and fan-art; Doody was unbanned, and she has been to this day. Nowadays, she doesn't post as many comments or projects, and her drawings actually have gotten (slightly) better.
UPDATE! She seems to have deleted most of her projects.
http://scratch.mit.edu/users/Doody

Hope you liked the history lesson.
Tsunami_Enterprise thing?

the what?

Targethero · 2011-07-14 14:59:09

jack wrote:
anyone remember the Tsunami_Enterprise thing? that was the best scratch drama thingy.

I remmember that, most well done animation I ever saw on Scratch. To bad he never finished it. I went to his website once but it was closed down.

Anyway yea I got really tired of all those "ur just a jealous h8ter" replys. I dont notice them too much any more, but i'm not nearly as active as I use to be. But back in the Doody/MaskedStar drama days, you could rarley leave any comments with constructive critisism without getting hate from the fanboys/girls trying to deffend their 'idols'.

I think its really childish but this is a kids website so really there's nothing you can do..

Last edited by Targethero (2011-07-14 15:09:06)

Ace-Of-Hearts · 2011-07-14 15:03:01

imnotbob wrote:
08jackt wrote:
Trekkie210 wrote:

A couple years ago, a user named Doody (she's still on, too) posted TONS of projects (at least 15 a day). The thing is, they were PICTURES (think stick people drawings). Even worse THEY KEPT GETTING FRONT PAGED.

And she had fans, too. Lots of 'em.

So it went on like this for a month or two until a group of people, who didn't like the fact that these projects were getting front paged all the time, told Doody so.

And her fans were MAD.

They started flagging the "haters" comments and projects. Finally, Doody was banned for using multiple accounts to post negative comments (one of the first Scratch conspiracies).

A little while later, after hundreds of "Bring back Doody" petitions, projects, and fan-art; Doody was unbanned, and she has been to this day. Nowadays, she doesn't post as many comments or projects, and her drawings actually have gotten (slightly) better.
UPDATE! She seems to have deleted most of her projects.
http://scratch.mit.edu/users/Doody

Hope you liked the history lesson.
Tsunami_Enterprise thing?
the what?

I think that was the leader of DG Games

Trekkie210 · 2011-07-15 19:11:04

I'm pretty sure this topic is dead. Would a Moderator please close it?

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