Unfortunately some people external to our community are abusing the Scratch forums and using the signatures to post links to websites with inappropriate content. These are professional spammers that are typically paid to do this kind of thing. It's very sad, but we are going to have to disable signatures on the forums :-( I'm so sorry!
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Yes, we are trying to do that, there has been a surge of spammers that we cannot keep up them. I am thinking that with the holidays the moderators and the rest of the team are going to be having to spend less time and the problem might exacerbate. Additionally we only look at content that has been flagged and since signatures cannot be flagged then its a lot harder to find the inappropriate ones. If we had more people and/or more developers we could come up with better solutions, but we are very limited in both of those.
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andresmh wrote:
Yes, we are trying to do that, there has been a surge of spammers that we cannot keep up them. I am thinking that with the holidays the moderators and the rest of the team are going to be having to spend less time and the problem might exacerbate. Additionally we only look at content that has been flagged and since signatures cannot be flagged then its a lot harder to find the inappropriate ones. If we had more people and/or more developers we could come up with better solutions, but we are very limited in both of those.
I'd gladly help in flagging signatures if I ever saw one. Maybe make a topic where people post if they think that someones signatures is inapproiate. Please don't take away signatures, they are one of the main ways of getting people to view your project.
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But having that topic would just advertise more those people and their signatures, which is exactly what the spammers want...
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Maybe you could make it so that you can only have signatures if you have a certain number of forum posts or projects. Most spamers have no projects and very few posts.
Not to mention, that if a person has made 50 or so posts you can see if they intend to sell you stuff or something unwanted like that. I don't think that spamers would put in the effort to make 50 forum posts to make 1 or 2 posts to advertise their own things.
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Yeah, that would be a good solution archmage. Who can help us implement it and test it? It shouldn't be that hard, it's just PHP code. I can share the source code for the forums with whoever can help.
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I understand. However it's painful to hear (I spent a lot of time creating that JSO banner and fitting it within 400 characters :S )
I don't know enough php to do such kind of thing, but it shouldn't be too hard. Just add it on the profile page - when a user has less then 50 posts he/she is not allowed to post a sig. It is actually just copy-pasting, the post count is displayed somewhere on the profile page...
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After JSO put it in such simple terms I was inspired and decided to spend no more than 1 hr in doing the change. It turned out to take just a few minutes. Thanks JSO!
I changed the code so the signature would be displayed only accounts with more than 50 posts. Let me know if it works well and hopefully I didn't break anything.
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andresmh wrote:
After JSO put it in such simple terms I was inspired and decided to spend no more than 1 hr in doing the change. It turned out to take just a few minutes. Thanks JSO!
I changed the code so the signature would be displayed only accounts with more than 50 posts. Let me know if it works well and hopefully I didn't break anything.
It works, also you should update the FAQ to explain why some people won't get sigs.
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JSO wrote:
I don't know enough php to do such kind of thing, but it shouldn't be too hard. Just add it on the profile page - when a user has less then 50 posts he/she is not allowed to post a sig. It is actually just copy-pasting, the post count is displayed somewhere on the profile page...
andresmh wrote:
After JSO put it in such simple terms I was inspired and decided to spend no more than 1 hr in doing the change. It turned out to take just a few minutes. Thanks JSO!
Great solution! Thank you both! You can see: It's often valuable to let multiple people think about a solution before rejecting an idea or immediately start programming.
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Zelda123 wrote:
With no use of signatures, won't these people just create posts to advertise instead?
Yes, that can happen, but at least you all can help us by flagging those posts.
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Won't this encourage these people to make even more posts advertising other websites? Then once they get 50 posts, they can advertise in many double that amount. Or do you think that these people will not find 50 minutes of their time worth a lot of advertising?
Also, if there is an inappropriate signature, is it ok to flag a post by that person, typing the reason as "Inappropriate Signature?"
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Zelda123 wrote:
Also, if there is an inappropriate signature, is it ok to flag a post by that person, typing the reason as "Inappropriate Signature?"
I think that would work just fine.
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Zelda123 wrote:
Won't this encourage these people to make even more posts advertising other websites? Then once they get 50 posts, they can advertise in many double that amount. Or do you think that these people will not find 50 minutes of their time worth a lot of advertising?
Seems like all the time it would take to post 50 spams to reach the point where one could have a sig with more spam is a lot of a time to invest, especially if once the user is id'ed as a spammer, their whole account / posts can be erased.
It's all a numbers game with spammers. When we make it cost more of their time and effort to spam us, they are more likely to choose to spend their energy somewhere else and to leave us alone. The tricky part is how to make it hard for them but still easy for all us real Scratchers.
I think this is a really good solution to a difficult problem - props to the Scratch community and Andres for making it happen!
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