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#26 2011-07-02 15:16:31

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Re: Bill S.978

veggieman001 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

Does it affect people living in Germany?

It's an American law, so no.

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oh and this law is going to suck if it is passed


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#27 2011-07-02 15:25:59

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Re: Bill S.978

veggieman001 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

Does it affect people living in Germany?

It's an American law, so no.

OK.


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#28 2011-07-02 15:29:48

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Re: Bill S.978

toocoolforschool wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

meew0 wrote:


It's an American law, so no.

your new signature is colorful

oh and this law is going to suck if it is passed

Why thank you.

I don't really care either way because it won't affect me at all.


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#29 2011-07-02 15:34:42

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Re: Bill S.978

veggieman001 wrote:

toocoolforschool wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


It's an American law, so no.

your new signature is colorful

oh and this law is going to suck if it is passed

Why thank you.

I don't really care either way because it won't affect me at all.

Actually the law applies to american-owned sites, any sites run in america must comply. Youtube is.


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#30 2011-07-02 16:21:08

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Re: Bill S.978

blazerv82 wrote:

MC Blog wrote:

...will add a special clause to the TOS specifically to allow posting videos of their games

Then why propose the bill if most every company will do it?

Seems kinda stupid to make it, if everyone will say it's fine by them.

Because the bill isn't intended to specifically target video games, instead other forms of media.

Music and TV companies will most likely not include clauses like that.

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#31 2011-07-02 16:49:14

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Re: Bill S.978

Um, I don't know if anyone else has read the bill fully, but it says:

Makes unauthorized web streaming of copyrighted content a felony with a possible penalty of up to 5 years in prison. Illegal streaming of copyrighted content is defined in the bill as an offense that "consists of 10 or more public performances by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copyrighted works" and has a total economic value, either to the copyright holder or the infringer, of at least $2,500.

Read the part that I underlined. I don't think most of the video game walkthroughs and such similar content will cause that much economic damage from one user. Unless the video game company has proof of such an economic loss, I don't think it would be wise for the companies to push with some kind of lawsuit against the video uploader; it possible they can ask for the website owner (YouTube, for example) to take it down (after all, if a company wants to pursue with damages, they need the content removed first before proceeding), but that will not prevent users from re-uploading the content if the video game companies have no proof of economic damage and do not follow through.


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#32 2011-07-02 17:41:06

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Re: Bill S.978

fire219 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

Does it affect people living in Germany?

No. It will just be Americans, which I am one of. D:

If this bill gets past, I would be willing to bet $30 that the US government would be toppled over within a year. Gamers love their Let's Play videos.

okay

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#33 2011-07-02 17:54:24

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Re: Bill S.978

However made this law up is obviously jack thompson, so his little kiddies don't see MK, cause he's like that.


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#34 2011-07-02 17:58:03

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Re: Bill S.978

veggieman001 wrote:

toocoolforschool wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


It's an American law, so no.

your new signature is colorful

oh and this law is going to suck if it is passed

Why thank you.

I don't really care either way because it won't affect me at all.

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#35 2011-07-02 18:12:31

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Re: Bill S.978

This could probably effect scratch too because people use characters and music and that stuff from games.

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#36 2011-07-02 18:35:01

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Re: Bill S.978

JJROCKER wrote:

This could probably effect scratch too because people use characters and music and that stuff from games.

*affect

That is true...


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#37 2011-07-02 18:38:18

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Re: Bill S.978

veggieman001 wrote:

JJROCKER wrote:

This could probably effect scratch too because people use characters and music and that stuff from games.

*affect

That is true...

Only if there's proof of financial damage (which, according to the proposed bill, has to be at least $2500. See my last post in this topic).

Fair Use will probably come into play here. If there's no proof of a financial loss, then Fair Use can be claimed in the use of copyrighted content.

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#38 2011-07-03 06:42:42

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Re: Bill S.978

demosthenes wrote:

You can read about it here: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s978/show

Only 10 people are supporting it. 407 people are against it.

I doubt it will happen.


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