Scratch

Good That's It's Okay, I've put a Bundle of Songs onto Mine! :3

I'm pretty sure grabbing copyrighted songs from projects is illegal, but Scratch degrades the sound quality so much that the record companies probably wouldn't care.
Either way, the people putting copyrighted songs in their projects are technically more at fault.

computernut401 wrote:

Either way, the people putting copyrighted songs in their projects are technically more at fault.

It is legal because of fair use though.

You have to remember that some songs on scratch may be protected by copyright for example if the scratcher used copyrighted music then you shouldn't use it. 

No.

veggieman001 wrote:

jslomba wrote:

gbear605 wrote:

It is totally legal because of "the “Fair Use” doctrine incorporated into the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107", and "All projects shared on the Scratch website, as well as the Scratch support materials, are shared under the Creative Commons license with the conditions: Attribution - Share Alike." Which states: "You are free:

    * to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
    * to Remix — to adapt the work
    * to make commercial use of the work" 
That would be sharing it.

However,
"Other Rights — In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license:

    * Your fair dealing or fair use rights, or other applicable copyright exceptions and limitations;" 
means that if it is protected by a copyright, then the copyright holder legally can sue you.  So, my answer to you, is, sure, you can use it, but don't advertise that you got it for free or that you have not bought it.

TL;DR:
sure, you can use it

veggieman wrote:

It's piracy.

i'm confused!!!! lol, just kidding. I think gbear's right.

He's wrong.

Your wrong.

cheddargirl wrote:

Harakou wrote:

RUMCHEERYPOOPOO wrote:

no, what jonathan meant was that if a song was copyrighted (for example Poker Face by LadyGaga) then it would be illegal to put it in a scratch project.

But if someone made a song themselves and put it in a scratch project, then everyone would be able to use it for anything as if they put a copyright on it it would be breaking the Scratch Website Terms of use http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Terms_of_use and so their project should be taken down.

Actually, your can use copyrighted material in a Scratch project becuase it is protected by fair use and the Creative Commons act.

However, I believe obtaining copyrighted material from a project and using it fr personal or commercial use would be considered piracy.

Oh boy, here we go again. Ish clarification tiem. 

Creative Commons doesn't mean the owner revokes his/her copyright to a project, it just means that the person is allowing other to use the elements in the project for certain uses (ie, the elements are still copyright to the original owner, he/she is just allowing other people to use it whereas normally, under most copyright laws, this would not be allowed). If a Scratcher makes a piece of music and puts it in a project, anybody can use the music (via the CC license), but they cannot copyright it (the creator of the music still owns the copyright).

Creative Commons DOES NOT cover cases where you take a copyrighted work (aka, you didn't create it) and put it in a project. Fair Use allows for copyrighted work to be put in a project.

Now what if we download the music from the project and put it on our iPod/mp3 player/music device? If it's covered by Creative Commons, you can probably download it onto your iPod/mp3 player/etc. without fear of doing anything illegal. If it's covered by Fair Use, then no, that probably would be illegal.

Whoops. Here I go getting Creative Commons and fair use mixed up again. Oh well, my point still stands!

cheddargirl wrote:

Harakou wrote:

RUMCHEERYPOOPOO wrote:

no, what jonathan meant was that if a song was copyrighted (for example Poker Face by LadyGaga) then it would be illegal to put it in a scratch project.

But if someone made a song themselves and put it in a scratch project, then everyone would be able to use it for anything as if they put a copyright on it it would be breaking the Scratch Website Terms of use http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Terms_of_use and so their project should be taken down.

Actually, your can use copyrighted material in a Scratch project becuase it is protected by fair use and the Creative Commons act.

However, I believe obtaining copyrighted material from a project and using it fr personal or commercial use would be considered piracy.

Oh boy, here we go again. Ish clarification tiem. 

Creative Commons doesn't mean the owner revokes his/her copyright to a project, it just means that the person is allowing other to use the elements in the project for certain uses (ie, the elements are still copyright to the original owner, he/she is just allowing other people to use it whereas normally, under most copyright laws, this would not be allowed). If a Scratcher makes a piece of music and puts it in a project, anybody can use the music (via the CC license), but they cannot copyright it (the creator of the music still owns the copyright).

Creative Commons DOES NOT cover cases where you take a copyrighted work (aka, you didn't create it) and put it in a project. Fair Use allows for copyrighted work to be put in a project.

Now what if we download the music from the project and put it on our iPod/mp3 player/music device? If it's covered by Creative Commons, you can probably download it onto your iPod/mp3 player/etc. without fear of doing anything illegal. If it's covered by Fair Use, then no, that probably would be illegal.

Exactly what I wanted to say! You are so good at clarifying things and your fingers never seem to be tired! 

Illegal

jslomba wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Illegal

no, legal because of Creative Commons

No. I am not going to have this debate again. It is only legal to download a song from Scratch and use it in another Scratch project.

ok, i think i get it now: if its covered by CC, wich means your aloud to use it, then its legal, but if its covered by FU, and the song in the project was used becasue the creator asked permission, then its illegal. right i think ive get it :J