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#1 2011-06-20 21:39:13

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Namco Debate Topic

Instead of arguing in the petition threads, I think there should be an official topic for debating stuff about Namco and the Pacman project that was taken down. Although I'm on Scratch's side, I'll keep track of reasons for both sides in this post.

Reasons it was unfair for Nomco to do this

-Because they're educational, Scratch projects are (supposedly) protected by fair use law.

-Other companies like Nintendo and Sega aren't complaining.

-They (supposedly) haven't done anything to get rid of all the other Pacman projects out there.

Reasons Namco should have done this

-It's legal (supposedly).

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#2 2011-06-20 21:46:05

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

Then why are mario and sonic games allowed?  hmm

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#3 2011-06-20 21:46:13

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

Supposively?


I think you mean supposedly. Protip.

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#4 2011-06-20 21:47:22

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

martianshark wrote:

Instead of arguing in the petition threads, I think there should be an official topic for debating stuff about Namco and the Pacman project that was taken down. Although I'm on Scratch's side, I'll keep track of reasons for both sides in this post.

Reasons it was unfair for Namco to do this

Because they're educational, Scratch projects are (supposively) protected by fair use law.

Reasons Namco should have done this

It's legal (supposively).

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#5 2011-06-20 21:51:53

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

I thought supposively was a word. Dx

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#6 2011-06-20 21:53:05

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

martianshark wrote:

I thought supposively was a word. Dx

EPIC FAIL!  lol

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#7 2011-06-20 21:54:40

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Protip: always check the dictionary.

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#8 2011-06-20 21:55:57

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

agscratcher wrote:

Protip: always check the dictionary.

Sounds lame but it works  wink

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#9 2011-06-20 21:57:31

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

My Lawyer wrote:

What Kinda dude just goes taking down stuff that small loveable children worked hard on?

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#10 2011-06-20 22:15:58

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

This is getting nowhere. Someone make an argument.

Will64 wrote:

Will64's Lawyer wrote:

What Kinda dude just goes taking down stuff that small loveable children worked hard on?

Awesome.

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#11 2011-06-20 22:17:18

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

martianshark wrote:

This is getting nowhere. Someone make an argument.

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#12 2011-06-20 22:19:29

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

What do you mean? Nomco was the one that said to take down the project in the first place.[/argument]

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#13 2011-06-20 22:26:32

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

But they had to take it down, it was a copyright infringement. I do believe the gameplay was extremely similar.

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#14 2011-06-20 22:34:44

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

But gameplay has nothing to do with copyrights. And they didn't HAVE to take it down. There were tons of flash versions that they could have dealt with before getting to the Scratch stuff (which wasn't even an exact copy). Plus, they only targeted a single project. They didn't say "get rid of all that Pacman stuff." They said "get rid of that kid's little pacman thing."

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#15 2011-06-20 23:09:56

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Do they even care anymore? If he puts the game up again will it be taken down again?

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#16 2011-06-20 23:28:53

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

awesomestickdude wrote:

Do they even care anymore? If he puts the game up again will it be taken down again?

Dunno...

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#17 2011-06-21 01:31:55

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And they did nothing against all the zillion other pacman projects out there...

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#18 2011-06-21 02:06:05

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Chrischb wrote:

And they did nothing against all the zillion other pacman projects out there...

Exactly... what about the one in the example projects? That probably has the most views of any pacman project (counting the offline views).  tongue

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#19 2011-06-22 02:53:20

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They didn't like his username?

Odd, but it happens.

(I mean, I would do it if I was going to take down just one pacman project)

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#20 2011-06-22 03:05:31

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

Will64 wrote:

My Lawyer wrote:

What Kinda dude just goes taking down stuff that small loveable children worked hard on?

+1

awesomestickdude wrote:

Do they even care anymore? If he puts the game up again will it be taken down again?

Probably not.
C'mon Andres, just do it!

jji7skyline wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

And they did nothing against all the zillion other pacman projects out there...

Exactly... what about the one in the example projects? That probably has the most views of any pacman project (counting the offline views).  tongue

I didn't even realize that one! Wow, that was the first thing they should have targeted.  big_smile

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#21 2011-06-22 07:23:13

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Re: Namco Debate Topic

Will64 wrote:

Will64 Lawyer wrote:

What Kinda dude just goes taking down stuff that small loveable children worked hard on?

It being a child's project wouldn't mean much to the law.

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#22 2011-06-22 07:54:36

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So they removed one of 124scratch's projects? What about his other Pac-Man stuff?  big_smile

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