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#1 2011-06-20 13:57:01

somelia
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Okay, now I'm confused.

Considering the Scratch-Namco issue, I don't see who's right and who's wrong. I can see both sides!

That, my friends, is why I'm so bad at debate.

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#2 2011-06-20 13:59:17

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

Maybe read a bit further into both sides? I, for one welcome our new Namco overlords.


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#3 2011-06-20 14:24:50

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

I, for one welcome our new Namco overlords.

tongue  lol

But anyway, NAMCO is like ahahahaha, be mean to children even if it is protected by the fact that he can use copyrighted work for educational reasons!


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#4 2011-06-20 14:39:22

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

soupoftomato wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

I, for one welcome our new Namco overlords.

tongue  lol

But anyway, NAMCO is like ahahahaha, be mean to children even if it is protected by the fact that he can use copyrighted work for educational reasons!

Who would buy Pac-Man if clones are available? Namco felt it threatened their market. They legally can send a C&D notice. And MIT complied.


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#5 2011-06-20 14:41:53

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

I, for one welcome our new Namco overlords.

tongue  lol

But anyway, NAMCO is like ahahahaha, be mean to children even if it is protected by the fact that he can use copyrighted work for educational reasons!

Who would buy Pac-Man if clones are available? Namco felt it threatened their market. They legally can send a C&D notice. And MIT complied.

They're not clones.  The projects on this site are barely like pac-man, they're just little maze/collect dots games with a pac-man sprite.  And obviously their quality is much lower than the real pac-man games.  It almost doesn't threaten their market at all.  Maybe they'll lose literally a couple of dollars total.

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#6 2011-06-20 14:43:39

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

I, for one welcome our new Namco overlords.

tongue  lol

But anyway, NAMCO is like ahahahaha, be mean to children even if it is protected by the fact that he can use copyrighted work for educational reasons!

Who would buy Pac-Man if clones are available? Namco felt it threatened their market. They legally can send a C&D notice. And MIT complied.

Well namco is silly if they think an 8 year old's drawing threatened losing millions of dollars.


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#7 2011-06-20 15:36:27

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

Where is the project anyway?


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#8 2011-06-20 15:37:16

somelia
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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

Wickimen wrote:

Where is the project anyway?

It's been taken down.

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#9 2011-06-20 15:38:40

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

Wickimen wrote:

Where is the project anyway?

i think it got removed possibly... not sure. but i've been told that this is the user who made the project in question.


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#10 2011-06-20 16:15:04

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

Wait what is going on between namco and scratch?

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#11 2011-06-20 16:16:29

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

scratchlive wrote:

Wait what is going on between namco and scratch?

A Scratch project was made of Pac-Man, which was remixed, I think, several hundred times.  Namco requested it to be removed, and Scratch did so, but Namco had no right to request its removal.

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#12 2011-06-20 16:17:14

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

Actually, knowing both arguments makes you a good debater...if you know how to use the "opposing" argument against itself...


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#13 2011-06-20 16:18:07

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

AtomicBawm3 wrote:

Actually, knowing both arguments makes you a good debater...if you know how to use the "opposing" argument against itself...

But I'm so wishy-washy! THe last peron I speak to always sounds right.

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#14 2011-06-20 16:20:40

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

The only argument "pro Namco" has is that apparently these projects affect the income Namco gets from PacMan sales, because "people will play the free clones instead of buy the game".  Of course they aren't direct clones and I doubt it makes a significant difference in their income.

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#15 2011-06-20 16:44:25

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

And Google, for Pac-Man's 35th anniversary, had Pac-Man playable. And I still have the webpage saved as an MHTML file to this day!


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#16 2011-06-20 16:46:55

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

IHeartGaming wrote:

And Google, for Pac-Man's 35th anniversary, had Pac-Man playable. And I still have the webpage saved as an MHTML file to this day!

But they got permission from Namco.

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#17 2011-07-03 21:40:27

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Re: Okay, now I'm confused.

If only we could get a real lawyer or some kind of law student here. I might know someone but I can't bring them here


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