Scratch

infinite_minus_zero wrote:

if you copy songs from a downloaded scratch project into your iTunes library and then put it on your iPod, does that count as Piracy, or anything illegal like that? thx!

It is totally legal because of "the “Fair Use” doctrine incorporated into the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107", and "All projects shared on the Scratch website, as well as the Scratch support materials, are shared under the Creative Commons license with the conditions: Attribution - Share Alike." Which states: "You are free:

    * to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
    * to Remix — to adapt the work
    * to make commercial use of the work" 
That would be sharing it.

However,
"Other Rights — In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license:

    * Your fair dealing or fair use rights, or other applicable copyright exceptions and limitations;" 
means that if it is protected by a copyright, then the copyright holder legally can sue you.  So, my answer to you, is, sure, you can use it, but don't advertise that you got it for free or that you have not bought it.

TL;DR:
sure, you can use it

DISCLAIMER: I IN NO WAY AM A LAWYER AND HAVE NO WAY IN TERMS OF LEGAL ISSUES AND HAVE NEVER GONE TO LAW SCHOOL

Last edited by gbear605 (2011-06-16 20:17:47)

gbear605 wrote:

infinite_minus_zero wrote:

if you copy songs from a downloaded scratch project into your iTunes library and then put it on your iPod, does that count as Piracy, or anything illegal like that? thx!

It is totally legal because of "the “Fair Use” doctrine incorporated into the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107", and "All projects shared on the Scratch website, as well as the Scratch support materials, are shared under the Creative Commons license with the conditions: Attribution - Share Alike." Which states: "You are free:

    * to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
    * to Remix — to adapt the work
    * to make commercial use of the work" 
That would be sharing it.

However,
"Other Rights — In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license:

    * Your fair dealing or fair use rights, or other applicable copyright exceptions and limitations;" 
means that if it is protected by a copyright, then the copyright holder legally can sue you.  So, my answer to you, is, sure, you can use it, but don't advertise that you got it for free or that you have not bought it.

TL;DR:
sure, you can use it

veggieman wrote:

It's piracy.

i'm confused!!!! lol, just kidding. I think gbear's right.

jslomba wrote:

gbear605 wrote:

infinite_minus_zero wrote:

if you copy songs from a downloaded scratch project into your iTunes library and then put it on your iPod, does that count as Piracy, or anything illegal like that? thx!

It is totally legal because of "the “Fair Use” doctrine incorporated into the Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107", and "All projects shared on the Scratch website, as well as the Scratch support materials, are shared under the Creative Commons license with the conditions: Attribution - Share Alike." Which states: "You are free:

    * to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work
    * to Remix — to adapt the work
    * to make commercial use of the work" 
That would be sharing it.

However,
"Other Rights — In no way are any of the following rights affected by the license:

    * Your fair dealing or fair use rights, or other applicable copyright exceptions and limitations;" 
means that if it is protected by a copyright, then the copyright holder legally can sue you.  So, my answer to you, is, sure, you can use it, but don't advertise that you got it for free or that you have not bought it.

TL;DR:
sure, you can use it

veggieman wrote:

It's piracy.

i'm confused!!!! lol, just kidding. I think gbear's right.

He's wrong.

It's legal if:
You own the song (So you have already brought it)
And the person who shared it brought it.

IF you do not own the song, but the other person does - you are free to listen to it on the project - but not redistribute it.

IF neither side own it, then it should not be on Scratch.

Songs used on Scratch should be free for everyone to use - if a song used in a project is commercial or not allowed to be used, then I guess you should flag the project 

So if there were a song in a Scratch project that isn't commercial and can be used, I guess you could put it on your iPod 

I hope I'm not confused here xD

My cousin is a layer, she is right here. She says "No, it is not piracy, unless you try to sell the iPod with the music on it"

I don't see how it could possibly be legal.

Jonathanpb wrote:

Songs used on Scratch should be free for everyone to use - if a song used in a project is commercial or not allowed to be used, then I guess you should flag the project 

So if there were a song in a Scratch project that isn't commercial and can be used, I guess you could put it on your iPod 

I hope I'm not confused here xD

I think we both are... XP

owetre18 wrote:

My cousin is a layer, she is right here. She says "No, it is not piracy, unless you try to sell the iPod with the music on it"

I knew it.

infinite_minus_zero wrote:

if you copy songs from a downloaded scratch project into your iTunes library and then put it on your iPod, does that count as Piracy, or anything illegal like that? thx!

It's piracy if you copy a song that the project owner didn't want you to, but if they didn't copy that song and let you use it, then it's okay!

GLaDOS2 wrote:

gbear605 wrote:

owetre18 wrote:

My cousin is a lawyer, she is right here. She says "No, it is not piracy, unless you try to sell the iPod with the music on it"

see ^^ 

So if you sell it and forget to erase the music, it's illegal? 

prrrrretty much. actually, if you sell your ipod and forget to erase the music you paid for, it's still illegal.

no.