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#26 2011-06-11 15:20:51

spongebob123
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Re: Should I send this?

ssss wrote:

I'm wonderring if I should send this email to NAMCO:

My email wrote:

Dear Namco-Bandai,

As you are hopefully aware of, you sent a DCMA notice to the admin of Scratch.mit.edu requesting and requiring that the project made by 124scratch be removed, due to the fact that it was a project about one of Namco-Bandai's games, 'Pacman'.  In doing this, however, Namco-Bandai forgot about the other 'Pacman' remakes that are on the Internet.  These include other games made with the Adobe Flash program, and other game-making software, among them the Scratch program.  Yet Namco-Bandai simply targeted this one project, and  managed to anger many members of the Scratch community. These members of the Scratch community are most likely trying to avoid buying any Namco-Bandai products now. 

One fact you may have overlooked is the fact that Scratch.mit.edu is designed for education purposes, and is therefore protected by Fair Use.  Fair Use allows any copyrighted materials to be used for educational  purposes.  Due to the fact that 124scratch shared the project to the Scratch site, there is in fact no doubt that the project was protected by fair use, also taking into account that the project didn't and wouldn't, in fact, damage the financial strength and integrity of the Namco-Bandai Company or brand.  In reality, it is more likely the Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the many members of the Scratch community neglecting to buy your products due to this one incident. 

Another thing I ask you to understand is that people, especially children, learn from doing things they love. 124scratch probably loved playing pacman, and decided to create his own version of it.  By forcing this project to be removed, you could have possibly harmed him in hiis growth to be an adult.  Not only this, 124scratch wasn't the only member of scratch to make their own version of scratch.  Many of these can be found by going to this link: http://scratch.mit.edu/tagged/shared/pacman. Even a simple search on Google with the phrase 'Pacman' will direct you to many flash games of Pacman, that are perfect replicas, which aren't protected by fair use, you haven't complained about.  However, when a child uploaded their own version of a 'Pacman' game to a site which was protected by fair use, you requested that it was removed.


As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was wrong to send the DMCA notice. In the process of sending it, Namco-Bandai may have broken some rules itself.

Before this email ends, its writer asks you this: If any member of Namco-Bandai had a child themselves, would the rest of the company have done the same thing to them, or let them continue what they love doing?

Sincerely, (Name) (Name) (SSSS on Scratch)

smile  I changed around some technical stuff, but I didn't change the meaning hopefully. When you're sending a letter to a major company, try to sound more professional yourself, otherwise you might not be taken seriously.

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#27 2011-06-11 16:08:01

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Re: Should I send this?

You based your email on mine!  big_smile

Send it!


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#28 2011-06-11 16:11:32

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Re: Should I send this?

nope.


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#29 2011-06-11 16:13:28

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Re: Should I send this?

Yessss. (See what I did there.)


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#30 2011-06-11 17:04:34

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Re: Should I send this?

Simply amazing.

It is the most persuasive thing I have ever read, and they would be cold hearted to ignore it.


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#31 2011-06-11 17:06:46

spongebob123
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Re: Should I send this?

Send it! Send it! Send it!

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#32 2011-06-11 17:08:42

Miss_Webgal
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Registered: 2011-02-23
Posts: 500+

Re: Should I send this?

ssss wrote:

I'm wonderring if I should send this email to NAMCO:

My email wrote:

Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are hopefully aware of, (I hope), you sent a DCMA notice to the Admins of Scratch.mit.edu requesting, and requiring that the project made by 124scratch be removed, due to the fact that it was a pacman project.  Yet in doing this you simply forgot all the pacman remakes on the internet.  They include other games made with the
Scratch program, and flash games.  Yet you simply targeted this one project, and  anaged to anger many members of the scratch community.  These members are probably trying to avoid buying any NAMCO products now. 

One fact you may have overlooked is the fact that Scratch.mit.edu is designed for education purposes, and is therefore protected by Fair use.  Fair use allows any copyrighted materials to be used for educational  purposes.  Due to the fact that 124scratch shared the project to the scratch site, there is in fact no doubt that the project was protected by fair use.  Also, taking into account that the project didn't and
wouldn't in fact damage the financial strenght and integrity of the Namco-Bandai Company or brand.  In reality, it is more likely the Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the many members of the Scratch community neglecting to buy your products due to this one incident. 

Another thing I ask you to understand is that people, kids especially learn from doing things they love. 124scratch probably loved playing pacman, and decided to create his own version of it.  By forcing this project to be removed, you could have possibly harmed him in hiis growth to be an adult.  Not only this, 124scratch wasn't the only member of scratch to make their own version of scratch.  Many of these can be found by going to this link: http://scratch.mit.edu/tagged/shared/pacman not only that, but a simple  search on google with the phrase 'Pacman' will direct you to many flash games of pacman, that are perfect replicas, which aren't protected by fair use, you haven't complained about.  However, when a child uploaded a pacman to a site which was protected by fair use, you required that it was removed.


as you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice,  and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

Now before I end this, I ask you this:  If you had a child yourself, would you have done  the same thing to them, or let them continue with what they love doing?

Sincerely, (Name) (Name) (SSSS on Scratch)

Their own version of Scratch? ._.

Other than that, it's good.


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#33 2011-06-11 17:09:39

Aidan
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Registered: 2007-06-15
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Re: Should I send this?

I don't think they'll really care, but go for it.

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#34 2011-06-11 17:31:13

spongebob123
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Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

sad  Wait, Digimon is owned by Namco-Bandai?

NUUZZ NO MORE DIDIMONZ FOR MEH

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#35 2011-06-11 17:34:50

owetre18
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Registered: 2009-07-01
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

ssssend it, ssssend it, ssssend it!

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#36 2011-06-11 18:56:28

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

My email:
Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are hopefully aware of, you sent a DCMA notice to the Adminastrators of Scratch.mit.edu requesting, and requiring that the project made by 124scratch be removed, due to the fact that it was a pacman project.  Yet in doing this you simply forgot all the pacman remakes on the internet, and that this wasn't the only project based on, or inspired by, pacman.  They include other games made with the
Scratch program, and flash games.  Yet you simply targeted this one project, and  anaged to anger many members of the scratch community.  These members are probably trying to avoid buying any NAMCO products now.

One fact you may have overlooked is the fact that Scratch.mit.edu is designed for education purposes, and is therefore protected by Fair use.  Fair use allows any copyrighted materials to be used for educational  purposes.  Due to the fact that 124scratch shared the project to the scratch site, there is in fact no doubt that the project was protected by fair use.  Also, taking into account that the project didn't and
wouldn't in fact damage the financial strenght and integrity of the Namco-Bandai Company or brand.  In reality, it is more likely the Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the many members of the Scratch community neglecting to buy your products due to this one incident.

Another thing I ask you to understand is that people, kids especially learn from doing things they love. 124scratch probably loved playing pacman, and decided to create his own version of it.  By forcing this project to be removed, you could have possibly harmed him in hiis growth to be an adult.  Not only this, 124scratch wasn't the only member of Scratch to make their own version of pacman using Scratch.  Many of these can be found by going to this link: http://scratch.mit.edu/tagged/shared/pacman not only that, but a simple  search on google with the phrase 'Pacman' will direct you to many flash games of pacman, that are perfect replicas, which aren't protected by fair use, you haven't complained about.  However, when a child uploaded a pacman to a site which was protected by fair use, you required that it was removed.


as you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice,  and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

Now before I end this, I ask you this:  If you had a child yourself, would you have done  the same thing to them, or let them continue with what they love doing?

Sincerely, (Name) (Name) (SSSS on Scratch)

I tried to make it a little better, i'm definately sending it now


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#37 2011-06-11 19:08:16

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

My email:
Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are hopefully aware of, you sent a DCMA notice to the Adminastrators of Scratch.mit.edu requesting, and requiring that the project made by 124scratch be removed, due to the fact that it was a pacman project.  Yet in doing this you simply forgot all the pacman remakes on the internet, and that this wasn't the only project based on, or inspired by, pacman.  They include other games made with the
Scratch program, and flash games.  Yet you simply targeted this one project, and  anaged to anger many members of the scratch community.  These members are probably trying to avoid buying any NAMCO products now.

One fact you may have overlooked is the fact that Scratch.mit.edu is designed for education purposes, and is therefore protected by Fair use.  Fair use allows any copyrighted materials to be used for educational  purposes.  Due to the fact that 124scratch shared the project to the scratch site, there is in fact no doubt that the project was protected by fair use.  Also, taking into account that the project didn't and
wouldn't in fact damage the financial strenght and integrity of the Namco-Bandai Company or brand.  It may have even increased the sails, due to 124scratch uploading his projects that were inspired by a Namco-Bandai product, increasing the amount of people wanting to see the real thing.  In reality, it is more likely the Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the many members of the Scratch community neglecting to buy your products due to this one incident.

Another thing I ask you to understand is that people, kids especially learn from doing things they love. 124scratch probably loved playing pacman, and decided to create his own version of it.  By forcing this project to be removed, you could have possibly harmed him in hiis growth to be an adult.  Not only this, 124scratch wasn't the only member of Scratch to make their own version of pacman using Scratch.  Many of these can be found by going to this link: http://scratch.mit.edu/tagged/shared/pacman not only that, but a simple  search on google with the phrase 'Pacman' will direct you to many flash games of pacman, that are perfect replicas, which aren't protected by fair use, you haven't complained about.  However, when a child uploaded a pacman to a site which was protected by fair use, you required that it was removed.


As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice,  and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

Now before I end this email, I ask you:  If you had a child yourself, would you have done  the same thing to them, or let them continue with what they love doing?

Sincerely, (Name) (Name) (SSSS on Scratch)

Added a little in, fixed some grammar.


Hey.  It's me SSSS, back from the dead!  smile

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#38 2011-06-11 19:11:51

ssss
Scratcher
Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

My email:
Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are hopefully aware of, you sent a DCMA notice to the Adminastrators of Scratch.mit.edu requesting, and requiring that the project made by 124scratch be removed, due to the fact that it was a pacman project.  Yet in doing this you simply forgot all the pacman remakes on the internet, and that this wasn't the only project based on, or inspired by, pacman.  They include other games made with the
Scratch program, and flash games.  Yet you simply targeted this one project, and  anaged to anger many members of the scratch community.  These members are probably trying to avoid buying any NAMCO products now.

One fact you may have overlooked is the fact that Scratch.mit.edu is designed for education purposes, and is therefore protected by Fair use.  Fair use allows any copyrighted materials to be used for educational  purposes.  Due to the fact that 124scratch shared the project to the scratch site, there is in fact no doubt that the project was protected by fair use.  Also, taking into account that the project didn't and
wouldn't in fact damage the financial strenght and integrity of the Namco-Bandai Company or brand.  It may have even increased the sails, due to 124scratch uploading his projects that were inspired by a Namco-Bandai product, increasing the amount of people wanting to see the real thing.  In reality, it is more likely the Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the many members of the Scratch community neglecting to buy your products due to this one incident.

Another thing I ask you to understand is that people, kids especially learn from doing things they love. 124scratch probably loved playing pacman, and decided to create his own version of it.  By forcing this project to be removed, you could have possibly harmed him in hiis growth to be an adult.  Not only this, 124scratch wasn't the only member of Scratch to make their own version of pacman using Scratch.  Many of these can be found by going to this link: http://scratch.mit.edu/tagged/shared/pacman not only that, but a simple  search on google with the phrase 'Pacman' will direct you to many flash games of pacman, that are perfect replicas, which aren't protected by fair use, you haven't complained about.  However, when a child uploaded a pacman to a site which was protected by fair use, you required that it was removed.


As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice,  and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

I also request to know why you have ignored the countless others who are interested in this state of affairs.  If you had of given them a response to them, I would not be delving into this subject.  That is in fact, If I had of heard that they got a response, I would not feel that we are aliens compared to a brand such as Namco-Bandai.  I ask that you respond to this, as soon as you can. 

Now before I end this email, I ask you:  If you had a child yourself, would you have done  the same thing to them, or let them continue with what they love doing?

Sincerely, (Name) (Name) (SSSS on Scratch)

Woah, that extra paragraph -_-


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#39 2011-06-11 19:40:51

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

My email:
Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are hopefully aware of, you sent a DCMA notice to the Adminastrators of Scratch.mit.edu requesting, and requiring that the project made by 124scratch be removed, due to the fact that it was a pacman project.  Yet in doing this you simply forgot all the pacman remakes on the internet, and that this wasn't the only project based on, or inspired by, pacman.  They include other games made with the
Scratch program, and flash games.  Yet you simply targeted this one project, and  anaged to anger many members of the scratch community.  These members are probably trying to avoid buying any NAMCO products now.

One fact you may have overlooked is the fact that Scratch.mit.edu is designed for education purposes, and is therefore protected by Fair use.  Fair use allows any copyrighted materials to be used for educational  purposes.  Due to the fact that 124scratch shared the project to the scratch site, there is in fact no doubt that the project was protected by fair use.  Also, taking into account that the project didn't and
wouldn't in fact damage the financial strenght and integrity of the Namco-Bandai Company or brand.  It may have even increased the sails, due to 124scratch uploading his projects that were inspired by a Namco-Bandai product, increasing the amount of people wanting to see the real thing.  In reality, it is more likely the Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the many members of the Scratch community neglecting to buy your products due to this one incident.

Another thing I ask you to understand is that people, kids especially learn from doing things they love. 124scratch probably loved playing pacman, and decided to create his own version of it.  By forcing this project to be removed, you could have possibly harmed him in hiis growth to be an adult.  Not only this, 124scratch wasn't the only member of Scratch to make their own version of pacman using Scratch.  Many of these can be found by going to this link: http://scratch.mit.edu/tagged/shared/pacman not only that, but a simple  search on google with the phrase 'Pacman' will direct you to many flash games of pacman, that are perfect replicas, which aren't protected by fair use, you haven't complained about.  However, when a child uploaded a pacman to a site which was protected by fair use, you required that it was removed.


As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice,  and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

I also request to know why you have ignored the countless others who are interested in this state of affairs.  If you had of given them a response to them, I would not be delving into this subject.  That is in fact, If I had of heard that they got a response, I would not feel that we are aliens compared to a brand such as Namco-Bandai.  I ask that you respond to this, as soon as you can.  If you do not respond, we will assume they you acknowledge that you are wrong, yet are not couragous enough to admit to your mistake!

Now before I end this email, I ask you:  If you had a child yourself, would you have done  the same thing to them, or let them continue with what they love doing?

Sincerely, (Name) (Name) (SSSS on Scratch)

Now, is that heaps better from the start
?


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#40 2011-06-11 19:44:02

SpriteMaster
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Registered: 2009-01-25
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

Send it.


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#41 2011-06-11 19:57:40

Chrischb
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Registered: 2008-07-24
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

How about we all copy and paste the letter and send it? xD


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#42 2011-06-11 20:02:25

brettman98
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Registered: 2010-10-17
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

Chrischb wrote:

How about we all copy and paste the letter and send it? xD

well that would get a little monotonous...
what are there, 155 supporters?  tongue


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#43 2011-06-11 20:06:24

Chrischb
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Registered: 2008-07-24
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

brettman98 wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

How about we all copy and paste the letter and send it? xD

well that would get a little monotonous...
what are there, 155 supporters?  tongue

More of a punch ;3


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#44 2011-06-11 20:22:21

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

Alright, now, where do we send it?

I'm going to send it


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#45 2011-06-11 21:59:16

MrMokey
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Registered: 2009-05-06
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

Send it here support@namcobandaigames.com

Make an email account that is like: sirssss@gmail.com


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#46 2011-06-12 01:55:04

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

I'm not going to send it, however anyone can send it if they want  wink


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#47 2011-06-12 02:33:33

meew0
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Registered: 2010-02-22
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

ssss wrote:

I'm not going to send it, however anyone can send it if they want  wink

Why not?  sad


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#48 2011-06-12 02:37:25

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

meew0 wrote:

ssss wrote:

I'm not going to send it, however anyone can send it if they want  wink

Why not?  sad

Ermm... I want to know what the Scratch team got in the DCMA notice, and the reason that Namco removed it.


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#49 2011-06-12 02:38:52

meew0
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Registered: 2010-02-22
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

ssss wrote:

meew0 wrote:

ssss wrote:

I'm not going to send it, however anyone can send it if they want  wink

Why not?  sad

Ermm... I want to know what the Scratch team got in the DCMA notice, and the reason that Namco removed it.

OK...


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#50 2011-06-12 02:40:17

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
Posts: 1000+

Re: Should I send this?

meew0 wrote:

ssss wrote:

meew0 wrote:


Why not?  sad

Ermm... I want to know what the Scratch team got in the DCMA notice, and the reason that Namco removed it.

OK...

And I don't really want to be ignored by Namco-Bandai, so I'm going to ignore them xd


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