Scratch

Long time no see...

If people want to make projects about "lighting the candle" you should let them do it, people can make projects about whatever they want.

I do believe you should remix sometimes so you don't haave to start from nowhere, but I really think those projects are useless; I never do anything with them.

Lucario621 wrote:

Zelda123 wrote:

Long time no see...

If people want to make projects about "lighting the candle" you should let them do it, people can make projects about whatever they want.

1. Long time no see? I've never seen you before!

2. I don't agree with that. Though I do have an idea. What about you can only upload a remixed project if you've changed it this much: ___(a good amount and not just changing the sprite)

That would be a good idea, except there would be no real good way to make sure of it, as people could get around the filter by adding pointless scripts.

jamie wrote:

I don't want Scratch to end up as the spam breeding ground that MySpace is. I think that these projects are only here because the creators are a bunch of lame-o's that have nothing better to do with their time.

Let's get together and flag these projects 

But there's nothing about these projects that breaks the Terms of Use.

Zelda123 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Zelda123 wrote:

Long time no see...

If people want to make projects about "lighting the candle" you should let them do it, people can make projects about whatever they want.

1. Long time no see? I've never seen you before!

2. I don't agree with that. Though I do have an idea. What about you can only upload a remixed project if you've changed it this much: ___(a good amount and not just changing the sprite)

That would be a good idea, except there would be no real good way to make sure of it, as people could get around the filter by adding pointless scripts.

Well I see your point...

Scratch is for kids, seriously.    When they remix those projects they feel like part of a community that supports them and their interests. It's just a game, like any other game kids play when they are in a group. Let the children have fun. 

big-bang wrote:

Stuff that bugs me about Scratch:
1. Remix and pass it on projects. I mean it might be cool to watch the number grow, but some aren't even interactive!!! At least with "light a candle" people can actually use their skills (take one look at hnmwilson's candle for proof). I can tolerate projects where you can actually affect things with your mouse!
2. Top remixed scams. Okay, I know this should belong in #1, but
cool things the hated, cool things the dreaded, cool things the DESPISED has opened a new realm of easy ways to get the frontpage. How long is it before we see "stupid pixel [289]" up there? NOT VERY!!!
3. I'm leaving. Great. People waste front-page slots with a stupid publicity stunt, then by the time you've read the small print, they've come back. And everybody treats them like a hero. It's a really, really annoying thing to do!!!
4. This project sucks. Wow. You've gone out of your way to steal somebody else's happiness. I flag them whenever I see them, people! DO THE SAME!!!
5. Inappropriate stuff. "Oh yeah, I'll make a privates joke and then post it to the Web!! HA HA HA!!!" These people are not pornogrophers, they are just stupid. Again, flag these.
6. Politics debates. Otherwise known as forumcide. No logic. No reason. No brains! Just "BLAH BLAH BLAH [insert person] IS A [terrorist, gambler, geezer, idiot, and any number of dergatory comments]." It gets really annoying! The only thing that makes these debates worse than they already are is when abortion is slapped on there. "YESNOYESNOYESNOYESNOYESNO!!!!!" Quit it. Please.

Okay, that's it. Hopefully, this will stop soon... but it felt good to let off steam.

Number 3 and 4 are serious issues...* me off. Losers just do that for attention. My god, if you aren't on the popular page start learning more about Scratch and make better projects! Not waste time on stupid publicity stunts. 
And number 4. Helpful advice and criticism, not just telling someone they suck, or they're project is stupid, is the key to growth. If you want to complement, do it, but unless you have something constructive to say don't add anything negative.

Last edited by Ricardo-san (2008-11-22 11:11:42)

big-bang wrote:

Stuff that bugs me about Scratch:
1. Remix and pass it on projects. I mean it might be cool to watch the number grow, but some aren't even interactive!!! At least with "light a candle" people can actually use their skills (take one look at hnmwilson's candle for proof). I can tolerate projects where you can actually affect things with your mouse!
2. Top remixed scams. Okay, I know this should belong in #1, but
cool things the hated, cool things the dreaded, cool things the DESPISED has opened a new realm of easy ways to get the frontpage. How long is it before we see "stupid pixel [289]" up there? NOT VERY!!!
3. I'm leaving. Great. People waste front-page slots with a stupid publicity stunt, then by the time you've read the small print, they've come back. And everybody treats them like a hero. It's a really, really annoying thing to do!!!
4. This project sucks. Wow. You've gone out of your way to steal somebody else's happiness. I flag them whenever I see them, people! DO THE SAME!!!
5. Inappropriate stuff. "Oh yeah, I'll make a privates joke and then post it to the Web!! HA HA HA!!!" These people are not pornogrophers, they are just stupid. Again, flag these.
6. Politics debates. Otherwise known as forumcide. No logic. No reason. No brains! Just "BLAH BLAH BLAH [insert person] IS A [terrorist, gambler, geezer, idiot, and any number of dergatory comments]." It gets really annoying! The only thing that makes these debates worse than they already are is when abortion is slapped on there. "YESNOYESNOYESNOYESNOYESNO!!!!!" Quit it. Please.

Okay, that's it. Hopefully, this will stop soon... but it felt good to let off steam.

I agree with you...now its my turn to make some comedy....:

(insert person's name) wrote:

Can you believe (insert person's name) is a terrorist?

What do you mean I'm a terrorist, you infadel!

Also it ain't forumcide, forumidus

big-bang wrote:

Stuff that bugs me about Scratch:
1. Remix and pass it on projects. I mean it might be cool to watch the number grow, but some aren't even interactive!!! At least with "light a candle" people can actually use their skills (take one look at hnmwilson's candle for proof). I can tolerate projects where you can actually affect things with your mouse!
2. Top remixed scams. Okay, I know this should belong in #1, but
cool things the hated, cool things the dreaded, cool things the DESPISED has opened a new realm of easy ways to get the frontpage. How long is it before we see "stupid pixel [289]" up there? NOT VERY!!!
3. I'm leaving. Great. People waste front-page slots with a stupid publicity stunt, then by the time you've read the small print, they've come back. And everybody treats them like a hero. It's a really, really annoying thing to do!!!
4. This project sucks. Wow. You've gone out of your way to steal somebody else's happiness. I flag them whenever I see them, people! DO THE SAME!!!
5. Inappropriate stuff. "Oh yeah, I'll make a privates joke and then post it to the Web!! HA HA HA!!!" These people are not pornogrophers, they are just stupid. Again, flag these.
6. Politics debates. Otherwise known as forumcide. No logic. No reason. No brains! Just "BLAH BLAH BLAH [insert person] IS A [terrorist, gambler, geezer, idiot, and any number of dergatory comments]." It gets really annoying! The only thing that makes these debates worse than they already are is when abortion is slapped on there. "YESNOYESNOYESNOYESNOYESNO!!!!!" Quit it. Please.

Okay, that's it. Hopefully, this will stop soon... but it felt good to let off steam.

I agree fully with all of it. You get project thats taken you hours (eg. i got projects with over 500 scripts) and then people get on top love it because they said they'll quit if they dont... If you have a attadue like that then you wont get for in more complex languages like action script (Ive had 5 blamed projects from newgrounds but i keep trying). And saying something like you are bad, or this is terrable doesint hel the author one little bit, something they can work of is better like; try adding..
and ofcorse remix and pass along, pointless. Yea, it makes people feel part of the comunity but still, i disagree with them. I feel that to get onto things like top remixed/loved it has to actually be more then one picture, or one line of text, and if a project like this does come on, just kick it off from loved/remixed so proper projects get a chanse!

yes, its just people that upload a project that they didint make... its the one that comes with scratch when u download it

So why do you feel so strongly about this? Do you think it is unfair or something?

jamie wrote:

big-bang wrote:

Stuff that bugs me about Scratch:
1. Remix and pass it on projects. I mean it might be cool to watch the number grow, but some aren't even interactive!!! At least with "light a candle" people can actually use their skills (take one look at hnmwilson's candle for proof). I can tolerate projects where you can actually affect things with your mouse!
2. Top remixed scams. Okay, I know this should belong in #1, but
cool things the hated, cool things the dreaded, cool things the DESPISED has opened a new realm of easy ways to get the frontpage. How long is it before we see "stupid pixel [289]" up there? NOT VERY!!!
3. I'm leaving. Great. People waste front-page slots with a stupid publicity stunt, then by the time you've read the small print, they've come back. And everybody treats them like a hero. It's a really, really annoying thing to do!!!
4. This project sucks. Wow. You've gone out of your way to steal somebody else's happiness. I flag them whenever I see them, people! DO THE SAME!!!
5. Inappropriate stuff. "Oh yeah, I'll make a privates joke and then post it to the Web!! HA HA HA!!!" These people are not pornogrophers, they are just stupid. Again, flag these.
6. Politics debates. Otherwise known as forumcide. No logic. No reason. No brains! Just "BLAH BLAH BLAH [insert person] IS A [terrorist, gambler, geezer, idiot, and any number of dergatory comments]." It gets really annoying! The only thing that makes these debates worse than they already are is when abortion is slapped on there. "YESNOYESNOYESNOYESNOYESNO!!!!!" Quit it. Please.

Okay, that's it. Hopefully, this will stop soon... but it felt good to let off steam.

Agree 100%. I know this site is for kids, but that shouldn't make it a sandbox where people can post whatever they want. If you want an annoying site where 99% of the content is plagiarized * that nobody cares about, please feel free to join MySpace.

Remember back in the days of "Classic Scratch" (Early-2007 and before), when the entire site had worthwhile projects. When you could use your first name alone as your username, when the project number in the URL was only 3 digits... ah memories..... *sob*

Okay I'm done being dramatic.

But seriously, nobody CARES if you want to leave and come back 5 minutes later, and nobody CARES about your "remix this!" chain projects.

I myself am a kid, I'm only 14, but I personally miss the early Scratch era when none of this was a problem.

I guess my key point is, think LONG AND HARD before you click the "Share" button. Just think "Is this a project that people will ENJOY, or a project what will just get people hating me, and me leaving the site for a whole ten minutes?"

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People should not have to think "Long and hard" unless they are sharing a project against the Terms of Use. Otherwise, they should feel free to post whatever projects they want to.