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#1 2011-06-06 21:23:45

somelia
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The TRUE consequences of a paradox

If you're interested in the consequences only, read the first two paragraphs only. The rest is fiction.

I'm sure everyone here knows what a paradox is. A paradox is an impossible situation such as Pinocchio saying "My nose will now grow." Now that statement is obviously false, but remember - if Pinocchio lies, his nose grows. So that statement is TRUE, but that means his nose wouldn't grow, which means it's false. So...what would happen?

The answer: a parallel universe would begin. In one universe, Pinocchio's nose grew. In the other, it didn't. Problem solved. However, that wouldn't be so important. But what if someone went back in time and killed their grandfather? That would be extreme...but time travel itself is a paradox...

So I present a piece of fiction I have written, that sets out to answer - WHY DO I HAVE THESE STRANGE MEMORIES?!? It wasn't a past life; it was memories from a FUTURE life...meh, you'll understand once you read it.

"Well YEAH I want to be able to time travel!" said Future-me.

"Okay, okay! But I need to warn you - " said the scientist.

"I don't need any warnings."

"There is something extremely wrong with the - "

"Be quiet!"

"Don't travel to the past or paradoxes could occur."

I took off on my bicycle. I now could time-travel! It then started to rain.

I swerved to the right. I don't remember what I was dodging. But I remember falling, and then fainting.

I hadn't been wearing my helmet.

I lay there, unconscious, on the side of the road. I don't know how long I was there. No one stopped to help. I don't think anyone noticed.

No one noticed because I had disappeared.

I know this is all confusing, but I was there and not there at the same time. I had been trying to time-travel to the past, but I had fainted in the middle of that. I was stuck. No one could see me, but when I revived, I could see them.

But I could hear from the past-place. They couldn't hear me, only see me. I heard a three-year-old's little voice. "Who DAT?"

I then heard a voice I hadn't hear in years. My mom's. Tears began to run down my face. My mom was dead in this universe. "I want to go home..." I whispered.

Then, I dissolved. I don't know what happened. But I was then aware of my house. The three-year-old was gone...or was she?

Or was I..no, I couldn't be...was I...was I the three-year-old?

I was. I was my past-self.

I gradually forgot almost everything from my future. But the fact remains that this is a parallel universe, a parallel world. Has my old one been destroyed?

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#2 2011-06-06 21:28:27

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

Nice story. I like it  big_smile IHATETHE60SECONDRULEDARNIT!!


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#3 2011-06-06 21:31:22

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

scratch_yoshi wrote:

Nice story. I like it  big_smile IHATETHE60SECONDRULEDARNIT!!

THat's one of the first times I've heard something like that about ANYTHING I've written, besides "Pretty good" or "It's okay."

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#4 2011-06-06 21:32:06

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

Actually, this is what happens when you cause a paradox.


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#5 2011-06-06 21:36:04

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

agscratcher wrote:

Actually, this is what happens when you cause a paradox.

Or this

Last edited by kimmy123 (2011-06-06 21:36:28)


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#6 2011-06-06 21:36:36

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

agscratcher wrote:

Actually, this is what happens when you cause a paradox.

That happens while the parallel universe is being formed. I almost forgot. ^^'

I forgot to put that in my story! While I was unconcious, I began to unknowingly dance to that!

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#7 2011-06-06 21:47:02

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

kimmy123 wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

Actually, this is what happens when you cause a paradox.

Or this

I was thinking more along the lines of this:
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn12089/dn12089-1_600.jpg

But in all seriousness, any paradoxical situation that results in two laws of physics conflicting couldn't exist. While logical paradoxes may exist, they can be ignored as nothing more than a mental conundrum, a clever little situation that really wouldn't have any grounds in reality. Thus, the fabric of time and space is safe. At least, that's my opinion.

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#8 2011-06-06 21:47:53

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

Harakou wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

Actually, this is what happens when you cause a paradox.

Or this

I was thinking more along the lines of this:
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images … -1_600.jpg

But in all seriousness, any paradoxical situation that results in two laws of physics conflicting couldn't exist. While mental or logical paradoxes may exist, they can be ignored as nothing more than a mental conundrum, a clever little situation that really wouldn't have any grounds in reality. Thus, the fabric of time and space is safe. At least, that's my opinion.

So if I were Pinocchio, I wouldn't be ABLE to say "My nose will now grow?"

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#9 2011-06-06 21:52:08

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

somelia wrote:

Harakou wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:


Or this

I was thinking more along the lines of this:
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images … -1_600.jpg

But in all seriousness, any paradoxical situation that results in two laws of physics conflicting couldn't exist. While mental or logical paradoxes may exist, they can be ignored as nothing more than a mental conundrum, a clever little situation that really wouldn't have any grounds in reality. Thus, the fabric of time and space is safe. At least, that's my opinion.

So if I were Pinocchio, I wouldn't be ABLE to say "My nose will now grow?"

She says it has no grounds in reality, and last time I checked Pinocchio wasn't reality.


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#10 2011-06-06 21:53:50

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

soupoftomato wrote:

somelia wrote:

Harakou wrote:


I was thinking more along the lines of this:
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images … -1_600.jpg

But in all seriousness, any paradoxical situation that results in two laws of physics conflicting couldn't exist. While mental or logical paradoxes may exist, they can be ignored as nothing more than a mental conundrum, a clever little situation that really wouldn't have any grounds in reality. Thus, the fabric of time and space is safe. At least, that's my opinion.

So if I were Pinocchio, I wouldn't be ABLE to say "My nose will now grow?"

She says it has no grounds in reality, and last time I checked Pinocchio wasn't reality.

That's v ery true...but let's say for a moment that when I was created, my nose grew whenever I lied. WHat would happen if...?

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#11 2011-06-06 21:59:48

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

somelia wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

somelia wrote:


So if I were Pinocchio, I wouldn't be ABLE to say "My nose will now grow?"

She says it has no grounds in reality, and last time I checked Pinocchio wasn't reality.

That's v ery true...but let's say for a moment that when I was created, my nose grew whenever I lied. WHat would happen if...?

If you said your nose will grow, that's a lie, so your nose grows, but you said it won't, so THIS. SENTENCE. IS. FALSE.


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#12 2011-06-06 22:00:31

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

scratch_yoshi wrote:

somelia wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


She says it has no grounds in reality, and last time I checked Pinocchio wasn't reality.

That's v ery true...but let's say for a moment that when I was created, my nose grew whenever I lied. WHat would happen if...?

If you said your nose will grow, that's a lie, so your nose grows, but you said it won't, so THIS. SENTENCE. IS. FALSE.

Exactly. THe only solution would be a parallel universe.

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#13 2011-06-06 22:07:27

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

the best paradox is life

were alive but were really dead


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#14 2011-06-06 22:07:41

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

somelia wrote:

scratch_yoshi wrote:

somelia wrote:


That's v ery true...but let's say for a moment that when I was created, my nose grew whenever I lied. WHat would happen if...?

If you said your nose will grow, that's a lie, so your nose grows, but you said it won't, so THIS. SENTENCE. IS. FALSE.

Exactly. THe only solution would be a parallel universe.

If you said your nose will grow... that's true, since it's a lie and it makes your nose grow. Confusing if you think about it.


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#15 2011-06-06 22:15:12

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

somelia wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

somelia wrote:


So if I were Pinocchio, I wouldn't be ABLE to say "My nose will now grow?"

She says it has no grounds in reality, and last time I checked Pinocchio wasn't reality.

That's v ery true...but let's say for a moment that when I was created, my nose grew whenever I lied. WHat would happen if...?

It doesn't matter IF such a scenario were true, because it CAN'T be. There is no force of nature strong enough to make such a scenario necessary, where physics itself clashed and something HAD to be done to maintain order.

Also, "she"? O_O


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#16 2011-06-06 22:16:28

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

Harakou wrote:

somelia wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


She says it has no grounds in reality, and last time I checked Pinocchio wasn't reality.

That's v ery true...but let's say for a moment that when I was created, my nose grew whenever I lied. WHat would happen if...?

It doesn't matter IF such a scenario were true, because it CAN'T be. There is no force of nature strong enough to make such a scenario necessary, where physics itself clashed and something HAD to be done to maintain order.

Also, "she"? O_O

I'd bring religion into this to argue my point, but the Scratch Team doesn't allow such things. ^^'

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#17 2011-06-06 22:27:36

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

somelia wrote:

Harakou wrote:

somelia wrote:


That's v ery true...but let's say for a moment that when I was created, my nose grew whenever I lied. WHat would happen if...?

It doesn't matter IF such a scenario were true, because it CAN'T be. There is no force of nature strong enough to make such a scenario necessary, where physics itself clashed and something HAD to be done to maintain order.

Also, "she"? O_O

I'd bring religion into this to argue my point, but the Scratch Team doesn't allow such things. ^^'

If you were to, couldn't you make an argument for any situation or conclusion? I don't want to get into a discussion on religion either, but I don't think that religion could be used to argue your point anyway.

My logic is this: let's say we assume there is a supernatural force that can create a situation causing a true conflict in nature. (Not just a logical paradox.) This would require for the laws of physics to be ignored anyway. If the laws of physics can be ignored to create this paradox, then they can be ignored in order to solve it as well, getting rid of the need for a parallel universe.


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#18 2011-06-06 22:39:31

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

Let's say a major company like Google invents time travel (they will eventually. *shudder*) and you use it to go one second back in time. The fact that you showed up before you traveled would stop yourself from actually traveling, thus making the pre-time traveled version of yourself never existed, which means that you would have actually traveled, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself, which would stop yourself, which would make yourself *head explodes*
[/example of Paradox]


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#19 2011-06-07 01:09:07

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

scratch_yoshi wrote:

Nice story. I like it  big_smile IHATETHE60SECONDRULEDARNIT!!

scratch_yoshi: Who DOESN'T hate the 60 second rule?
somelia: Awesome! I would say it should be more detailed, but you did REALLY good in the style this was written in, which doesn't need so many details.


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#20 2011-06-07 01:25:53

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

The TRUE consequences of a paradox are: You are confused.


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#21 2011-06-09 07:04:37

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

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#22 2011-06-09 08:45:54

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

well no one has ever caused a paradox so who would know what it does?


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#23 2011-06-09 09:27:21

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

kimmy123 wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

Actually, this is what happens when you cause a paradox.

Or this

That is the song that plays when a paradox happens.


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#24 2011-06-09 11:00:07

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

Paradoxes wouldn't happen if my theory of time-changing was true. See, you can't change time cuz if you went back in time and did something it would be already on the timeline of all events cuz...let's say you went back in time and you and your past self made eye contact. You would then travel back to the presenty, "Oh! So THAT'S why I saw my future self all those years ago!"
Anyway, this would probably happen if a paradox occured:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Camino-404.png

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#25 2011-06-09 11:02:30

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Re: The TRUE consequences of a paradox

this is the definition of paradox, according to wikipedia.


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