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#1 2011-06-05 22:39:00

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Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Who knows how to do an equation like:

5!


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#2 2011-06-05 22:42:52

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Huh.

I'm guessing here, but...

10.

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#3 2011-06-05 22:43:35

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

no, inccorect. I'll explain either after an hour has past or after someone has gotten the right answer.


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#4 2011-06-05 22:43:52

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

five factorial

120

1*2*3*4*5


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#5 2011-06-05 22:44:00

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

5! = 120

Not that hard. Let's see now, how about this? (Simplify; no calculators now! And yes, the answer is a whole number.)

(5log(125))/(log(2.5) + log(2))

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#6 2011-06-05 22:44:18

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Above.


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#7 2011-06-05 22:44:24

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Hmm. Nope, wrong for me...

But 6! equals 3...

Anyways, it's 120. I read my sister's math book yesterday.

And before that I thought it was 240.

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#8 2011-06-05 22:44:49

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Harakou wrote:

5! = 120

Not that hard. Let's see now, how about this? (Simplify; no calculators now! And yes, the answer is a whole number.)

(5log(125))/(log(2.5) + log(2))

Correct!


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#9 2011-06-05 22:44:54

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Scratchthatguys wrote:

Hmm. Nope, wrong...

But 6! equals 3...

Anyways, it's 120. I read my sister's math book yesterday.

6! isn't three


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#10 2011-06-05 22:45:29

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

5! = 1*2*3*4*5
1*2=2*3=6*4=24*5=120

6! = 1*2*3*4*5*6
120
*  6
720

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#11 2011-06-05 22:46:46

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

So 5! is a factorial equation. The ! means that you multiply itself times the numbers before it. So you would multiply 5X4X3X2X1 5X4=20 20X3=60 60X2=120 120X1=120 So the answer is 120.


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#12 2011-06-05 22:47:06

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Oh, 3! is 6... I got confuzzled...

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#13 2011-06-05 22:47:49

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Harakou wrote:

5! = 120

Not that hard. Let's see now, how about this? (Simplify; no calculators now! And yes, the answer is a whole number.)

(5log(125))/(log(2.5) + log(2))

I have no clue, whats log?


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#14 2011-06-05 22:49:04

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

veggieman001 wrote:

five factorial

120

1*2*3*4*5

Correct


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#15 2011-06-05 22:50:29

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Yeah and 2!=2 1!=1


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#16 2011-06-05 22:52:49

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Just wondering... is it possible to have a negative factorial? Like -3! ?


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#17 2011-06-05 22:55:31

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

I actually don't know the answer to it. I am asking you guys.


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#18 2011-06-05 22:55:31

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Wouldn't that be infinite? Or would it go up?


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#19 2011-06-05 22:56:10

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

JJROCKER wrote:

Just wondering... is it possible to have a negative factorial? Like -3! ?

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/60851.html

Nope, according to that a negative factorial would have an undefined value due to division by zero.


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#20 2011-06-05 22:56:44

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

oh, ok.


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#21 2011-06-05 22:57:48

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Thank you.


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#22 2011-06-05 22:58:57

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Actually, if factorals included 0, they'd all equal zero, just pointing that out  tongue


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#23 2011-06-05 22:59:12

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

JJROCKER wrote:

Harakou wrote:

5! = 120

Not that hard. Let's see now, how about this? (Simplify; no calculators now! And yes, the answer is a whole number.)

(5log(125))/(log(2.5) + log(2))

I have no clue, whats log?

log(x) is a logarithm of x with base 10. A logarithm is the inverse of a exponent. For a logarithm of x with base b and result a, b^a = x. So for example, log(100) = 2.

Of course, now that I posted that, I realized that it wasn't exactly the expression I intended. A better one that should be relatively easy to solve assuming you know the properties of logarithms would be this:
(125log(5))/(log(2.5) + log(2))

The basic properties are as follows:

log(a) + log(b) = log(ab)
log(a) - log (b) = log(a/b)
a * log(x) = log(x^a)
log (base b) of x = log(x)/log(b) (It's hard to express the base here because I don't have access to subscripts.)

Of course, I kinda feel like I'm intruding on your thread here. Not sure if you meant this as a specific discussion about factorials or a place to talk about mathematics in general and quiz each other.  hmm


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#24 2011-06-05 23:01:34

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

I got one.

Solve this, smart ones.

3x^2+4x+7=0


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#25 2011-06-05 23:01:48

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Re: Lets see who knows this kind of math...

Is there like some math site that could explain algebra a little better and make it easier?


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