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#1 2008-10-15 20:29:06

m0rfeusman
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3D programs

I am looking for a 3D program  thats not drag and drop ( you write scripts and make models)

So if any one knows of any good 3d software let me know.

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#2 2008-10-15 21:34:05

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Re: 3D programs

Are you looking to make a game? Or do modeling? I heard Blender is very good for making 3D models, but I'm not sure about the learning curve. If you want to make your own 3D maps for videogames, an amazing program is called Sauerbraten (Cube Engine 2). It's extremely easy to pick up and build with, it's free, and you can build maps online with other people. It's an FPS engine and all map modeling is done ingame, so you can just jump in and run around at the tap of a key.

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#3 2008-10-17 07:36:00

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Re: 3D programs

Thanks!
But if u  know anything not fps, that would be awesome.

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#4 2008-10-18 20:09:46

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Re: 3D programs

Alice is exactly what you're looking for.


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#5 2008-10-19 01:46:09

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Re: 3D programs

that's what I was going to say!

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#6 2008-10-20 15:29:40

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Re: 3D programs

Yeah, Alice and Blender are good choices.  You can use python in Blender, but it's more of a create-by-mouse program.

You might also like POVray.  http://www.povray.org/ 
It can create some very cool images: http://hof.povray.org/

You write scenes in text form, It renders the scene you described into an image file.

for example:

Code:

// This is a simple red sphere

// first, the camera position
camera {
  location <2,5,-10>
  look_at <0,0,0>
}

// now, some light
light_source {
  <0,-10,0>
  color rgb <1,1,1>
}

// the sphere
sphere {
  <0,0,0>, 5
  pigment { color rgb <1,0,0> }
}

http://library.thinkquest.org/3285/tuto … firstscene
(You can also use a 3d gui program like blender to export scenes for POVray to render.  But it can be more challenging and fun to figure out how to code scenes.)

POVray was the first 3d program I played with. I had hours of fun loading the example files and changing things, to see what happens.

Last edited by AddZero (2008-10-20 15:30:57)


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#7 2008-10-28 11:38:04

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Re: 3D programs

SeanCanoodle wrote:

Are you looking to make a game? Or do modeling? I heard Blender is very good for making 3D models, but I'm not sure about the learning curve. If you want to make your own 3D maps for videogames, an amazing program is called Sauerbraten (Cube Engine 2). It's extremely easy to pick up and build with, it's free, and you can build maps online with other people. It's an FPS engine and all map modeling is done ingame, so you can just jump in and run around at the tap of a key.

I recomend you blender its a great program and the learning curve is a normal one(it have a lot of tutorials to learn you can make incredible thing so... why not take a look?


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#8 2008-11-01 22:34:43

Anthony3PO
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Re: 3D programs

I know a program! Go to YoYoGames.com and download Gamemaker7.0. It cost $20 to download but it will probally be the easiest 3D game making program on the internet that uses coding. P.S I downloaded it and its great!!! P.SS If you do download it use this code to turn on 3D mode: d3d_start(); You can learn the rest on the tutorial.

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#9 2008-11-13 03:27:35

Warhunter
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Re: 3D programs

BLENDER. my friend loves it and uses it all teh time... blender.org


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#10 2008-11-14 04:16:24

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Re: 3D programs

have you heard of pivot.

it has a little stick man that you can animate

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#11 2008-11-14 09:18:52

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Re: 3D programs

I have heard about this http://education.mit.edu/drupal/starlogo-tng It's a MIT project that let's you program in 3D.

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#12 2008-11-15 18:54:08

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Re: 3D programs

fullmoon wrote:

Alice is exactly what you're looking for.

Alice is drag and drop. I don't like it very much for making games-- you can't have mouse down, key pressed, or other things.

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#13 2008-12-21 13:17:23

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Re: 3D programs

BLender!  hmm  its not really ment for games (although it has a fairly extensive game engin) but it is free and very powerfull. It is a great 3D tool!

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#14 2008-12-23 12:47:02

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Re: 3D programs

Alright, first of all, no offense, but Alice and Blender screw up big time. Alice's drag and drop interface is more complicated than it needs to be, and yet lacks some necessary features. Blender is just plain evil, with the exception of the physics. It's really hard to learn, and complicates EVERYTHING. I haven't really tried 3d GM much, but I've looked at some of its code, and it looks like a good choice... However, it takes a while for you to get experienced in GML, and the language feels REALLY bloated. However, it still is pretty good... If you're okay with having the help file open all of the time, and looking up a new function every five minutes. I personally use Python in conjunction with the module called Visual, because the rendering itself is really, really easy to understand. However, it cannot load 3d models, and it is a typed language. (not drag-and-drop) It's still really good. However, nobody should start 3d before they've learned some very important game programming concepts. You need to know basic physics, collision detection (You have to do this yourself! There's no built in "colliding" function for most 3d.), the distance formula for 3d, trig (useful to also know 3d trig...), the concept of a camera, (usually) lighting, the concept of 3d coordinates, arrays, some form of expressing objects (with OOP or arrays), a method for getting input, and programming concepts like objects. If you don't know these, then you have a lot to learn... How much of this do you know?

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#15 2008-12-24 11:22:44

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Re: 3D programs

I wouldn't say blender is EVIL...but it is nutorious for being hard to learn for beginners. If you find a good tutorial (which I did) And yo get obsessed with it, you are good to go....I haven't really used the GE exept for physics simulation, so i'm not quite shure how good that is... hmm

I would say, do some searching. find what fits yor learning style best.....I know that will be hard b/c most good 3D progs cost $...and lots of it.

Last edited by NXTGeek (2008-12-24 11:23:04)

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#16 2008-12-27 21:07:30

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Re: 3D programs

I would use blender


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#17 2009-01-04 22:32:50

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Re: 3D programs

DarthPickley wrote:

Alice is drag and drop. I don't like it very much for making games-- you can't have mouse down, key pressed, or other things.

I know that my response is not very timely but I just wanted to let people know that it is possible to create events in Alice which will respond when a key is typed and when the mouse is clicked on something.  Alice does have its limits but its a pretty good language and beginners can quickly start making 3D programs.


I’ve also thought about using Alice to create 3D scenes and then use them in a Scratch project but I have not gotten very far.

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#18 2009-01-09 21:44:26

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Re: 3D programs

can alice use animations? well, okay, how do you animate in alice...is it keyframe based or frame by frame?

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#19 2009-01-10 03:43:33

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Re: 3D programs

Alice is like Scratch.  You can program an object (a sprite) to move.  I’ve attached a screen snapshot showing some of the Alice code to make the skater move and a very short animated GIF of  the first few seconds of my "Skater’s Puzzle" Alice program


http://sites.google.com/site/fgrc64a/Home/pictures/SkaterAliceCode.png



http://digimath.webs.com/skaters_puzzle.gif

Last edited by Digimath (2009-01-10 16:39:17)


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#20 2009-01-10 21:07:41

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Re: 3D programs

jasb wrote:

I have heard about this http://education.mit.edu/drupal/starlogo-tng It's a MIT project that let's you program in 3D.

Seems like Scratch, but 3D... I gotta test it out  big_smile  Thanks for the link, but I think m0rfeusman was asking for a programming language that's NOT drag-n-drop.

I haven't tried many, but I've heard Alice and Game Maker are good programs. I've also heard about a game called Roblox, but you use mostly LEGO Bricks for models. You can script in Lua, though.


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#21 2009-02-07 18:03:16

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Re: 3D programs

GML? interesting.

Yeah, blender is difficult for beginners, they are working on improving the interface.  It's like trying to learn how to fly a spaceship.. There's lots of buttons and controls, but it's fun and rewarding.  (to me.  although I haven't actually flown a spaceship yet, hopefully by then they'll make them easy to fly.  smile

I made a tutorial/template for spinning text in scratch:
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/AddZero/406436
And a gallery to put them in: http://scratch.mit.edu/galleries/view/40131

Also here are some blender video tutorials: http://www.totallyblended.com/Tutorials.html
http://www.google.com/searchq=blender+video+tutorials


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#22 2009-02-07 22:11:21

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Re: 3D programs

also I have a link to a really good tutorial. either look at my blender project or ask me. it really helped me. its what got me obsessed with blender  smile

blender can be used to export various 3D formats that can be used in 3D games if you program it in something like c++ VB etc

Last edited by NXTGeek (2009-06-12 14:11:08)

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#23 2009-06-12 11:58:47

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Re: 3D programs

I have both  smile

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#24 2009-06-12 14:11:30

NXTGeek
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Re: 3D programs

chazmaniandevel wrote:

I have both  smile

both what? both blender and....?

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#25 2009-06-16 02:42:17

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Re: 3D programs

3dgamemaker or Darkbasic are easy to programm and the site contains a lot of free and paid stuff like it u can easily make any type of game with models etc using the site
the site can be found on google
type
Darkbasic and u will get that
i just made a 3d game on scratch see it here
http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/fanofcena/572735

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