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#1 2008-11-09 15:12:51

zawicki1fromyoutube
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1.4?

When do you Scratch Team workers think you will release 1.4? I know probably in months, but I just want to know. PLEASE create a 3D model maker in 1.4!!! PLEASE! I BEG OF YOU! Just joking. I won't die.

OR WOULD I?

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#2 2008-11-09 15:35:47

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Re: 1.4?

Seriously, I could not care less about 3D modeling in scratch. Scratch has a hard time now running plain 2D projects. Maybe 3D would be possible if scratch was 50 times faster but I don't see that happening.

My top requests are
1. sprite duplication
2. co ordinate hit testing
3. functions
4. a way to get rid of the automatic lag in loops
5. A text based programmer
6. multidimensional arrays


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#3 2008-11-09 16:03:08

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Re: 1.4?

whats a 6. multidimensional arrays ?

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#4 2008-11-09 16:05:17

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Re: 1.4?

archmage wrote:

Seriously, I could not care less about 3D modeling in scratch. Scratch has a hard time now running plain 2D projects. Maybe 3D would be possible if scratch was 50 times faster but I don't see that happening.

My top requests are
1. sprite duplication
2. co ordinate hit testing
3. functions
4. a way to get rid of the automatic lag in loops
5. A text based programmer
6. multidimensional arrays

You can duplicate. And also, I don't want to make 3d games, I want to make models, if I want a "Multidimentional Sidescroller", like New Super Mario Bros.


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#5 2008-11-09 16:07:20

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Re: 1.4?

arrays w/ more than one dimension.
My requests:
* Option of delay between blocks (I know you can already do that, but not online)
* Sprite duplications
* Functions (like in Jens' new BYOB)
* Text input.

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#6 2008-11-09 16:08:44

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Re: 1.4?

zawicki1fromyoutube wrote:

archmage wrote:

Seriously, I could not care less about 3D modeling in scratch. Scratch has a hard time now running plain 2D projects. Maybe 3D would be possible if scratch was 50 times faster but I don't see that happening.

My top requests are
1. sprite duplication
2. co ordinate hit testing
3. functions
4. a way to get rid of the automatic lag in loops
5. A text based programmer
6. multidimensional arrays

You can duplicate. And also, I don't want to make 3d games, I want to make models, if I want a "Multidimentional Sidescroller", like New Super Mario Bros.

That's not multidimensional.
He means duplicating sprites infinitely using a block, so you can have more than one instance of it, rather than stamping which has limited uses.

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#7 2008-11-09 16:11:43

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Re: 1.4?

Dude, If you want to make 3d models. Use Cinema 4d. You cant expect that much from a program like this. SCRATCH WILL NEVER HAVE 3D. Also, archmage meant that by duplication, being able to create multiple copies of one sprite, not having to manually duplicate a sprite. Like "If mouse down (Duplicate Sprite)".

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#8 2008-11-09 16:22:42

zawicki1fromyoutube
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Re: 1.4?

InvisGhost wrote:

Dude, If you want to make 3d models. Use Cinema 4d. You cant expect that much from a program like this. SCRATCH WILL NEVER HAVE 3D. Also, archmage meant that by duplication, being able to create multiple copies of one sprite, not having to manually duplicate a sprite. Like "If mouse down (Duplicate Sprite)".

Oh! Smart Idea! But I don't want to buy a 3D program or download one. It would help just letting you make models. Oh! And I want a animated GIF creater! I would love that


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#9 2008-11-09 16:52:01

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Re: 1.4?

zawicki1fromyoutube wrote:

archmage wrote:

Seriously, I could not care less about 3D modeling in scratch. Scratch has a hard time now running plain 2D projects. Maybe 3D would be possible if scratch was 50 times faster but I don't see that happening.

My top requests are
1. sprite duplication
2. co ordinate hit testing
3. functions
4. a way to get rid of the automatic lag in loops
5. A text based programmer
6. multidimensional arrays

You can duplicate. And also, I don't want to make 3d games, I want to make models, if I want a "Multidimentional Sidescroller", like New Super Mario Bros.

I am not sure if 3D can also be called multidimentional...

Multidimensional arrays are arrays that contain arrays. An example of this would be a list of students and their grades.

Kinda like this

joe 65 56 76
marty 67 65 46
stu 99 54 77

There are 3 different sets of values. You could save each to its own arrays but this would not be efficient if you were dealing with hundreds of students. One multidimensional array would take care of all this.

Also, for games like mario bros with the repeating tiles, the data for each level is saved in a multidimensional array. For those games each row in the array represents a row of tiles.


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#10 2008-11-10 11:54:47

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Re: 1.4?

i want a <i recive> block so you could do
repeat until <i recieve>

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#11 2008-11-10 12:28:29

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Re: 1.4?

BWOG wrote:

i want a <i recive> block so you could do
repeat until <i recieve>

That's not boolean, diamond blocks need to be boolean. You can already achieve that effect by using variables.

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#12 2008-11-10 12:36:53

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Re: 1.4?

BWOG wrote:

i want a <i recive> block so you could do
repeat until <i recieve>

this has been wanted a million times, but it is NOT possable.<----> blocks must be true or false and a recive or braodcast is not true or false.use varibles.


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#13 2008-11-11 08:56:51

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Re: 1.4?

I would like to have [move variable] block.

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#14 2008-11-15 16:12:02

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Re: 1.4?

A 3rd party text intput program is feasible (at least with Chirp's XML feature). All it needs to be able to do is parse lots of nested mathematical and boolean operator blocks into XML, which is why I started such a thing and never finished it (Maybe someday).

keroro645 wrote:

what is a multidimensional array ?

A multidimensional array is basically an array where all the list indexes contain arrays. To store a number, you could say:

Code:

set list at (1,5) to [42]

Think of an Excel spreadsheet, it's a very good example of a two-dimensional array, instead of 1-dimensional Scratch lists.


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#15 2008-11-27 11:07:07

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Re: 1.4?

I can't delete a variable from a list. Also functions would be cool, so that you could make a function called 'drive', so that if you made a block saying, "play function 'drive'" it would do what was listed in function 'drive', so a new block heading for functions would have to be created.
Just an idea.

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