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#1 2011-05-29 13:39:05

scimonster
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Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

I made a mockup in my wiki sandbox. You can see it here.
Do you want it? The wiki would be much more accessible.  big_smile

Jonathanpb suggested that we replace "my stuff" with "wiki". Here's that mockup.

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#2 2011-05-29 14:30:49

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

Well, it would definitely make the wiki more prominent. Right now you really have to look for it, and so I think a lot of people don't find out about it. Personally, I have the wiki bookmarked, but this would make it easier to access and get more people to notice it, so I agree. But the question is, where to put it? I see you have it between support and forums in your mock-up, and I think that might work well.


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#3 2011-05-29 14:44:46

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

Harakou wrote:

Well, it would definitely make the wiki more prominent. Right now you really have to look for it, and so I think a lot of people don't find out about it. Personally, I have the wiki bookmarked, but this would make it easier to access and get more people to notice it, so I agree. But the question is, where to put it? I see you have it between support and forums in your mock-up, and I think that might work well.

Thanks!

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#4 2011-05-29 15:46:47

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

I think this would be great! Especially because you don't have to go to the homepage to get to the wiki. Now you could go straight there! It looks like the button would fit too, there is some space at the top...


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#5 2011-05-29 15:48:16

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

yeah that would be nice  smile  i don't use it a ton but it would be good to have (as well as a link to clutter...)


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#6 2011-05-29 16:09:31

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

That would be great! Then New Scratchers wouldn't have to look for it! I support!


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#7 2011-05-29 17:17:31

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

LordSydney wrote:

That would be great! Then New Scratchers wouldn't have to look for it! I support!

yup, i think many of them don't even know it exists... speaking of this, did you know that when you link to the wiki in comments it makes a (link to wiki) instead of the long url?  big_smile


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#8 2011-05-29 17:34:24

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

You know I love the wiki and I also worked hard on it, but I don't really support.

I think the navigation bar should be as simple as possible, and the wiki really is part of the support section.

Actually, maybe galleries don't really need their own link in the navigation bar either, because galleries are parts of the 'projects' section of the Scratch Wesbites (mind the S  tongue )

I'd rather have it taking up some more prominent space on the support page. Now it's just one plain text link next to Scratch Resources.


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#9 2011-05-29 18:45:19

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

JSO wrote:

You know I love the wiki and I also worked hard on it, but I don't really support.

I think the navigation bar should be as simple as possible, and the wiki really is part of the support section.

Actually, maybe galleries don't really need their own link in the navigation bar either, because galleries are parts of the 'projects' section of the Scratch Wesbites (mind the S  tongue )

I'd rather have it taking up some more prominent space on the support page. Now it's just one plain text link next to Scratch Resources.

I don'tthink that galleries needs one. I do think that wiki does, though!

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#10 2011-05-29 20:30:02

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

The wiki really does need to be easier to find - but there isn't really any space on the navigation bar  tongue

The "my stuff" button is quite unnecessary - you can just click your username (on the right of "Welcome, "). So maybe the "my stuff" button could be replaced with "wiki"?

But as JSO said, the wiki is part of the support area...

Well, the Scratch Wiki advertisement thingy should really get moved up to the top of the front page where people can find it  tongue


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#11 2011-05-29 20:38:42

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

Jonathanpb wrote:

The wiki really does need to be easier to find - but there isn't really any space on the navigation bar  tongue

The "my stuff" button is quite unnecessary - you can just click your username (on the right of "Welcome, "). So maybe the "my stuff" button could be replaced with "wiki"?

But as JSO said, the wiki is part of the support area...

Well, the Scratch Wiki advertisement thingy should really get moved up to the top of the front page where people can find it  tongue

Yes, it should be at least moved to a more noticeable location. It's technically part of support, but I think it deserves its own space. You're right though - when you take the language bar into account, there really isn't enough space. The My Stuff button could be removed, but I am concerned some people who use it to get to their pages could get a little confused.


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#12 2011-05-29 21:30:47

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

I totally support!!!  smile


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#13 2011-05-30 03:57:55

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

LordSydney wrote:

That would be great! Then New Scratchers wouldn't have to look for it! I support!

yup, i think many of them don't even know it exists... speaking of this, did you know that when you link to the wiki in comments it makes a (link to wiki) instead of the long url?  big_smile

Yeah.  roll

JSO wrote:

You know I love the wiki and I also worked hard on it, but I don't really support.

I think the navigation bar should be as simple as possible, and the wiki really is part of the support section.

Actually, maybe galleries don't really need their own link in the navigation bar either, because galleries are parts of the 'projects' section of the Scratch Wesbites (mind the S  tongue )

I'd rather have it taking up some more prominent space on the support page. Now it's just one plain text link next to Scratch Resources.

yikes
Technically, I guess...
Actually, I think the galleries link is used alot.  hmm
I remember a suggestion that put it between the FAQ and forums; that could happen!  big_smile

Jonathanpb wrote:

The wiki really does need to be easier to find - but there isn't really any space on the navigation bar  tongue

The "my stuff" button is quite unnecessary - you can just click your username (on the right of "Welcome, "). So maybe the "my stuff" button could be replaced with "wiki"?

But as JSO said, the wiki is part of the support area...

Well, the Scratch Wiki advertisement thingy should really get moved up to the top of the front page where people can find it  tongue

Did you see how I did it? ^^
Yeah, I'll mockup that too!
But it has it's own site: wiki.scratch.mit.edu
Of course. They did that with SDS for a couple weeks and I liked that, here's my sidebar:  tongue

SDS
Wiki
Suggestions
Featured Galleries
Tags
Stats
ScratchEd
Tours
Tutorials
Blog/Twitter
Visitors

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#14 2011-05-30 04:05:31

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

Technically, I support... 
On scale of 1 to 10:
5/10
Not that much addition to usefulness, only helpful to new people who don't know about it  hmm


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#15 2011-05-30 04:29:00

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

Good idea, but there wouldn't be enough place for that in the bar...
I support, though


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#16 2011-05-30 06:21:35

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

Jonathanpb wrote:

The wiki really does need to be easier to find - but there isn't really any space on the navigation bar  tongue

The "my stuff" button is quite unnecessary - you can just click your username (on the right of "Welcome, "). So maybe the "my stuff" button could be replaced with "wiki"?

But as JSO said, the wiki is part of the support area...

Well, the Scratch Wiki advertisement thingy should really get moved up to the top of the front page where people can find it  tongue

This good?

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#17 2011-05-30 08:31:39

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

For the newbie less info helps more than being overwhelmed!

<think[

I personally found the wiki and clutter after a couple of projects,
digging deeper.   <think[  ]for(  )secs>

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#18 2011-05-30 08:39:37

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

eventexception wrote:

For the newbie less info helps more than being overwhelmed!

<think[

I personally found the wiki and clutter after a couple of projects,
digging deeper.   <think[  ]for(  )secs>[/blocks]

It's not so much. ^^
Not everyone digs deeper though, and we want everyone to get to the wiki quickly.
I always keep my wiki tab open, and try to link to it often.

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#19 2011-05-30 18:08:52

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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

On my scratch top bar there's lots of space on the right... I don't understand why some people are saying that there is no space...


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#20 2011-05-30 18:17:59

undefeatedgames
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Re: Put the Wiki on the navigation bar!

jji7skyline wrote:

On my scratch top bar there's lots of space on the right... I don't understand why some people are saying that there is no space...

I know right? There's tons of space to add the wiki

scimonster wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

The wiki really does need to be easier to find - but there isn't really any space on the navigation bar  tongue

The "my stuff" button is quite unnecessary - you can just click your username (on the right of "Welcome, "). So maybe the "my stuff" button could be replaced with "wiki"?

But as JSO said, the wiki is part of the support area...

Well, the Scratch Wiki advertisement thingy should really get moved up to the top of the front page where people can find it  tongue

That's better than the 1st one. There are technically two links to 'My Stuff', through 'My Stuff' and by clicking your username. By deleting 'My Stuff' from the navigation bar, we can put the Wiki there. Also... I think 'about' should be taken off the navigation bar and onto the homepage.


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