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#1 2011-04-07 13:48:09
Learning AI?
Has anyone here ever made a learning AI project? I've been fascinated with learning AI for years and would like to see an example if one exists. If not would anyone be willing to work on one with me?
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#2 2011-04-07 13:56:11
- ProgrammingFreak
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Re: Learning AI?
I do too. But I dont know. I'll be glad to work though! 
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#4 2011-04-07 15:08:56
Re: Learning AI?
sparks wrote:
I study AI in college. Facinating subject! Don't attempt a true AI in scratch, that's my advice to you
I think (some) learning AI is possible in BYOB, it would probably be pretty slow and would naturally not be able to get very complicated.
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#5 2011-04-07 15:27:02
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What you want in an AI is a system that can experience something happening to it and then use that information to make ASSUMPTIONS about what will happen in the future. It gets a lot more complicated than that, but my basic definition of intelligence is:
the ability to:
o use information the program or robot gathers to make assumptions about what will happen and then react in a way that will best constitute survival or safety of that program or robot.
o Act always in it's own best interest of survival or in swarm or group situations, the best intrests of the group.
o avoid actions or behaviours that seem to correlate to negative consequences and carry out actions of behaviours that seem to have caused benificial results in the past.
an example of this in Scratch could be a program that has the possibility to broadcast several broadcasts, say 1-10. The program has a health and hunger variable that gradually decrease. the program can broadcast any one of those broadcasts, some lower health, some increase health, some give food. If the program can work out which broadcasts are benificial and which hurt it, and then stop broadcasting the things that are negative, you have the basis or a simple learning AI.
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#6 2011-04-07 18:45:17
Re: Learning AI?
sparks wrote:
an example of this in Scratch could be a program that has the possibility to broadcast several broadcasts, say 1-10. The program has a health and hunger variable that gradually decrease. the program can broadcast any one of those broadcasts, some lower health, some increase health, some give food. If the program can work out which broadcasts are benificial and which hurt it, and then stop broadcasting the things that are negative, you have the basis or a simple learning AI.
If I was to do this I would do it in BYOB, broadcasts are really gross and messy and theirs no stored procedures in Scratch so you can't have an array of scripts or actions. Hereis a very simple learning AI I made as a proof of concept on vanilla Scratch. Both balls have only one sense, distance to each other, and they only have short term memory. The black ball's happiness is increased with its distance to the grey ball, and the grey ball's happiness is increased with closeness to the black ball.
I think BYOB be is capable of far more then scratch for getting an pretty good learning ai.
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#7 2011-04-09 02:43:50
Re: Learning AI?
ProgrammingFreak wrote:
I do too. But I dont know. I'll be glad to work though!
I don't have much time right now, but in the summer if you still wan't to work on learning AI that would be really cool. (also I still need to do some research and reading first)
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#8 2011-05-08 20:54:32
- Gamefan888
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Re: Learning AI?
I've made games with AIs, but they are very simple. Here's some tips I have:
-Focus on the main goal(s) of the AI.
-Program it to react differently in different situations so it will be harder to defeat/catch/better to work with.
That's all I have! Sorry!
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#9 2011-05-09 12:53:27
Re: Learning AI?
I am just as fascinated, I've seen a few learning AIs, but I can't seem to find those projects anymore. Sorry. But I would be interested in seeing someone make one.
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#10 2011-05-25 17:11:58
Re: Learning AI?
Well, actually, I am just starting to create on with Scratch! Right now, it can really only tell if what you say to it is good or bad, and based on that it will have a mood, and fially, based on that, it will say different things. I'll definitly post it when I finish! Please contact me if you would like to help.
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