Scratch

Lightnin wrote:

Liduen wrote:

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Ah, I hate to have to mention it, but scratch is on the world wide web, and the web does have some creeps / bullies on it. So sharing projects with specific other people - like "friends" only - is probably not going to be an option.     It would be too easy to share a mean attack project with a specific person. So I don't think we can open a channel for people to say things privately to a particular person. Since no one else could see it, no one else could flag it. We need everything to be public to everyone (so anyone can see it and flag it) or private to the creator themselves.

What about private to a certain group? It could go like
1) If you send an invite for a group project, the others have to agree or not, and the group creator has to approve of it (if you did not create the group). You cannot force anyone in.
2) If you are sent an invite, you can accept it or not, and preview the project first if there is one. The invite should also have text.
The Scratch Team should still be able to moderate the projects that are being made on the cloud with a group. All of the group members can report the project if there is innapropriate content being made by a user and the user continues to post it in. When reported, the project is sent and the user's name to the ST.
Maybe in Scratch 2.0, the program can detect bad words for anything (variables, costumes as long as they are typed, sprite names, project name, etc.) and block them.

And you should be able to also block invites from a certain user (if you're being invited) and/or block users from joining/being invited to the group so all the group members cannot send group invites to the blocked user.

Oh, and what about realtime editing like google wave did if possible? 

Last edited by ihaveamac (2011-05-13 17:16:52)

Lightnin wrote:

Liduen wrote:

(long post removed)

Ah, I hate to have to mention it, but scratch is on the world wide web, and the web does have some creeps / bullies on it. So sharing projects with specific other people - like "friends" only - is probably not going to be an option.     It would be too easy to share a mean attack project with a specific person. So I don't think we can open a channel for people to say things privately to a particular person. Since no one else could see it, no one else could flag it. We need everything to be public to everyone (so anyone can see it and flag it) or private to the creator themselves.

Yeah, I didn't think about that Lightnin.

ihaveamac wrote:

...2) If you are sent an invite, you can accept it or not, and preview the project first if there is one. The invite should also have text.
The Scratch Team should still be able to moderate the projects that are being made on the cloud with a group. All of the group members can report the project if there is innapropriate content being made by a user and the user continues to post it in. When reported, the project is sent and the user's name to the ST.
Maybe in Scratch 2.0, the program can detect bad words for anything (variables, costumes as long as they are typed, sprite names, project name, etc.) and block them.

True, but (now that i think about it), previewing the project could still have...problems and people could (unfortunatly) lie about what the project is about. and could you imagine trying to monitor all those projects? 0_o

Maybe everyone can see it, but only certain people can edit (like you need a password or something that gets sent with an invite).

I like the filter idea though 

Liduen wrote:

True, but (now that i think about it), previewing the project could still have...problems and people could (unfortunatly) lie about what the project is about. and could you imagine trying to monitor all those projects? 0_o

Well, maybe when you are sent an invite, you can preview the project (there is no option to disable this) and also the source code. You are also informed of any changes and can leave a group, and no one can stop you from leaving.

It might spoil the final version.

I think that there should be an option to either share your projects while they're still being developed, share them to a certain group of people, or just keep working without sharing them until they're done!

Ashurathehedgehog wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

It would be too easy to share a mean attack project with a specific person.

You guys could make it so that it wouldn't be shared if an attack project.

How would they do that? That would take lots of time and resources that they don't have. ^^

scimonster wrote:

Ashurathehedgehog wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

It would be too easy to share a mean attack project with a specific person.

You guys could make it so that it wouldn't be shared if an attack project.

How would they do that?

easy...just make it like not being allowed to re-upload a removed project that is flagged and inappropriate

I think that you should be able to share your projects while being developed if you want.  There would be three options:

1.  Share to the whole community.

2.  Share to a group of people.

3. Don't share

4.  Save on your computer

1
This would just be like uploading a normal project, however it comes up as [Dev]-Project Name

2
These people can select an option to  'Do not allow project requests from ___'   They then fill out a form why they don't want to receive project requests from this person.  They could aslo select 'Opt out of project sharing' This would stop them from getting requests from everyone (Like popular people, such as 08jackt)

3
Just like normal storage, only you store it on the scratch server

4
Instead of saving on the server, save it locally.  Good if going on car trips

scimonster wrote:

ssss wrote:

I think that you should be able to share your projects while being developed if you want.  There would be three options:

1.  Share to the whole community.

2.  Share to a group of people.

3. Don't share

4.  Save on your computer

1
This would just be like uploading a normal project, however it comes up as [Dev]-Project Name

Why "[Dev]-Project Name"? Isn't that the regular upload?

Yes.  But You tick off 'Not finished'  And then the name will automatically change to [dev]Your project

scimonster wrote:

ssss wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Why "[Dev]-Project Name"? Isn't that the regular upload?

Yes.  But You tick off 'Not finished'  And then the name will automatically change to [dev]Your project

Oh, this is while being developed. I didn't see that.

Lol.  What do you think of the options?

scimonster wrote:

ssss wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Oh, this is while being developed. I didn't see that.

Lol.  What do you think of the options?

I think the share to group has been vetoed a few times already, but there definitely should be a save on database or computer option. 

... I said you can opt in or opt out to the group.  and Scratch team always see them.  And you say why you don't want requests from a certain person.

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

ssss wrote:

scimonster wrote:

I think the share to group has been vetoed a few times already, but there definitely should be a save on database or computer option. 

... I said you can opt in or opt out to the group.  and Scratch team always see them.  And you say why you don't want requests from a certain person.

wouldn't it be hard for the ST and mods to monitor all those projects? just sayin'

-_-  That's what the point of why you don't want to except the friends project requests -_-

I think they should not.
Maybe there could be a beta test setting, where a randomly selected group of scratchers (everyone could join the beta testing queue) could see the program (they would sign up and select the tags that they're most interested in). This way, a few beta testers could see the project without showing it to the entire community.

Also, is there a scratch 2.0 screenshot that I can see and we can use for mockups?