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#76 2011-05-12 17:10:03

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

somelia wrote:

4Kids is the devil.

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#77 2011-05-12 17:12:28

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

somelia wrote:

4Kids is the devil.

Leo Burnett and 4Kids are the devil.


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#78 2011-05-12 17:14:35

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

WHOAH, WHOAH, WHOAH.  14+ anime is CALLED Pornographic Anime.  What 4kids calls "dangerous"  and dubs "to be safe for children" is not 14+, for Americans or the Japanese.


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#79 2011-05-12 17:16:14

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

pikachu1337 wrote:

14+ anime is CALLED Pornographic Anime.

Don't you mean 18+?


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#80 2011-05-12 17:19:12

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:

WHOAH, WHOAH, WHOAH.  14+ anime is CALLED Pornographic Anime.  The stuff 4kids calls "dangerous"  and dubs "to be safe for children" is not dangerous, for Americans nor the Japanese.

Don't you mean 18+?

well, stuff within that category.


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#81 2011-05-14 19:27:55

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

My idea is that 4kids shouldn't be using inappropriate anime in the first place to be made for kids, because that just ruins the anime. They should stick with already child friendly themes, so they don't have to completely twist the plot, dialogue and characters.

Even though they do dub some child friendly stuff, it gets pretty stupid. Some things are changed for no reason, and a lot of the jokes sound like things my 6th grade English teacher would make.


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#82 2011-05-14 20:17:47

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Nexstudent wrote:

My idea is that 4kids shouldn't be using inappropriate anime in the first place to be made for kids, because that just ruins the anime. They should stick with already child friendly themes, so they don't have to completely twist the plot, dialogue and characters.

Even though they do dub some child friendly stuff, it gets pretty stupid. Some things are changed for no reason, and a lot of the jokes sound like things my 6th grade English teacher would make.

True, true... hmm
...but have you ever thought that all of their shows are dumb to begin with?


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#83 2011-05-14 20:35:27

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:

Like...?

Ahem. WITHOUT INAPPROPRIATELY SAYING SOMETHING.... "Like....?"

The thing is, that the things I know of are really bad. And anything that's mentioned on here, I'm pretty sure will be searched up by... you know who you are. Do you know how disturbing some Japanese Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You know how disturbing some American Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.


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#84 2011-05-14 21:08:32

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

PW132 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:


Ahem. WITHOUT INAPPROPRIATELY SAYING SOMETHING.... "Like....?"

The thing is, that the things I know of are really bad. And anything that's mentioned on here, I'm pretty sure will be searched up by... you know who you are. Do you know how disturbing some Japanese Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You know how disturbing some American Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

Yeah, exactly. The only reason why Americans (well, people in general) think Anime is inappropriate because they choose to watch the inappropriate ones. They're no different than American animation (well, animation in general). All animation is creepy and disturbing, especially today. Just check out Adult Swim. Their stuff is just as bad, so PW123 has a point.


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#85 2011-05-15 13:42:29

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

PW132 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:


Ahem. WITHOUT INAPPROPRIATELY SAYING SOMETHING.... "Like....?"

The thing is, that the things I know of are really bad. And anything that's mentioned on here, I'm pretty sure will be searched up by... you know who you are. Do you know how disturbing some Japanese Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You know how disturbing some American Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You mean like Happy Tree Friends? That's not on Nation-wide television (as far as I know). Other examples?


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#86 2011-05-15 13:58:56

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:


The thing is, that the things I know of are really bad. And anything that's mentioned on here, I'm pretty sure will be searched up by... you know who you are. Do you know how disturbing some Japanese Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You know how disturbing some American Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You mean like Happy Tree Friends? That's not on Nation-wide television (as far as I know). Other examples?

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

...I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.


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#87 2011-05-15 14:04:00

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

PW132 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

PW132 wrote:


You know how disturbing some American Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You mean like Happy Tree Friends? That's not on Nation-wide television (as far as I know). Other examples?

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

...I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.

What? They can't be that bad. Fine, I'll use google.


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#88 2011-05-20 09:27:42

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Actually, believe me, everyone hates this 4kids thing expect only a few people. I'm absoutley neutral on everything with the exepection of spam and being naughty/nasty.

EDIT: I made fun of the topic title at (link to tbg forum topic).

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#89 2011-05-20 19:34:15

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

rdococ wrote:

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

^ Why don't you read?

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#90 2011-05-21 14:51:19

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

rdococ wrote:

rdococ wrote:

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

^ Why don't you read?

4kids belives that all people under 12 have the intelligence, attention span, and class of two year olds.


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#91 2011-05-22 10:04:50

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

rdococ wrote:

rdococ wrote:

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

^ Why don't you read?

*pokes head in* for the sake of clarification, most shows that 4kids shows that some would consider to have questionable content is actually considered to be okay for young kids in Japan (case in point: Yu-Gi-Oh! is part of a comic magazine known as Weekly Young Boys Jump. Mind you, the manga is usually much more horrific than the anime counterparts, which are seriously diluted down. It's going to be hard to argue that these shows are, well, not for kids).

You know, I'm surprised that no one has bothered to make much of a peep about the differences that the Western World and Japan in terms of what stuff is okay to be shown to minors that I mentioned a while back. That really is the crux of the issue in terms of the reasoning behind most of 4kidsTV's edits.*pokes head out*


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#92 2011-05-23 17:29:43

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

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#93 2011-05-23 19:51:01

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

my bro loves that. (thats not me saying u insulted him, or insulted me by insulting him. hes 5.  lol  lol)


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#94 2011-05-23 21:14:46

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

agscratcher wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

funamation is a bigger problem


they buy like all the animes and dub them

They, however, later released uncensored versions at a later date. 4Kids? PFFT! They will go as far as filling a JAPANESE anime with AMERICAN PATRIOTISM. (Look at the 4Kids national anthem, that's messed up.)

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#95 2011-05-23 21:18:27

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

PandaGuy wrote:

Why such a big deal about 4Kids? I'm just like the rest of you, I think their shows are really lame, but do you really have to make such a big deal about their anime dubs? If you don't like them, just look for a subbed or a better-dubbed version, instead of hating on 4Kids so much about it. Who cares if they tweaked the names a bit? I don't. I think people that worry about stupid things, like this, are nerds. If you really hate it so much, why don't you just keep your mouth shut from talking about it. The more you talk about it, the more it seems you do like it, so just stop. Find a channel with better anime dubs if you hate them so much.
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#96 2011-05-23 21:48:00

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Wait wait wait

PandaGuy wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:


The thing is, that the things I know of are really bad. And anything that's mentioned on here, I'm pretty sure will be searched up by... you know who you are. Do you know how disturbing some Japanese Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

You know how disturbing some American Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.

Yeah, exactly. The only reason why Americans (well, people in general) think Anime is inappropriate because they choose to watch the inappropriate ones. They're no different than American animation (well, animation in general). All animation is creepy and disturbing, especially today. Just check out Adult Swim. Their stuff is just as bad, so PW123 has a point.

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#97 2011-05-24 20:25:20

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

cheddargirl wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:

rdococ wrote:


It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

They ruined it by making stuff like "Yu-gi-oh XD: Numbers and Random Letters." Those remakes suck. So does Bakugan. It's just a merge of Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh.

Well, actually that has nothing to do with 4Kids.  tongue  It just ends up the YGO theme is appealing to younger and younger audiences in Japan; so now the shows in Japan are being targeted for younger and younger audiences (case in point: look at YuGiOh: ZeXal and compare it to the predecessor series. That is targeted for a much younger audience than some of it's older predecessors).

But while on the subject of 4Kids:
One of the problems when transferring an anime or manga series over from Japan to Western countries is that what is considered to be okay in one culture might not the okay in another. Particularly, in the case of Japanese anime and manga, influence (most likely from World War II) has resulted in the Japanese culture to have a higher threshold for violence and suggestive content that most Western cultures would have some opposition to. It's coming up to the point where that might be changing a bit though - if anyone is interested in the subject, try looking up "New Tokyo Anime/Manga law" on a good ol' search engine.

Given the differences between the Japanese culture and Western culture, I'm actually surprised that 4Kids has still managed to release shows (let alone get the license to them in the first place) such as the original YGO, Shaman King, One Piece etc. when there were complaints from parents that the shows were "too violent" even despite 4Kids's heavy censorship edits. Granted that some of 4kids's edits seem silly or unnecessary (such as changing names, or changing images of scribbles into their own personal images of scribbles), but given that a lot of the shows still draw negative criticism from parents, from the fan's point of view, we're still getting away with a lot even with the edits.

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