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#51 2011-05-03 06:13:40

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Okay, can you give me a link to episodes 71-100, preferabally youtube

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#52 2011-05-03 09:33:54

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

I'll explain localization

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you see, its the addition of dairy that makes it truely american


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#53 2011-05-03 11:14:56

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

PW132 wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:

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I just don't like the shows they put on in general.  hmm  No random nerdrage reasons like OH LOOK THEY DUB STUFF.

That and it's the only thing that's not supposed to get you to buy something that I get Saturday morning. And I don't like it's shows. So that makes it worse.

the shows are not even original.  the reason you probably feel repelled from them is BECAUSE 4KIDS RUINED THEM.

Troll.

How am I a troll?

And didn't they file for bankruptcy?

No, I filed in a file that will destroy 4KIDS forever. [inside joke]

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#54 2011-05-03 11:55:47

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

-iNetMaster- wrote:

Okay, can you give me a link to episodes 71-100, preferabally youtube

Episode 72  (I messed up, episodes 72 to 100 are the unsubbed.

Part 1 (parts because of 15 minute limit)

http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=ZstHIV_kJ94&feature=related

Part 2

http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=rA6cjwu5HG0&feature=related

Part 3

http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=QoaNhUnY634&feature=related

EDIT:  Note that they're all by the same person.  That's the most trusted kirby resource of mine besides watchanimeon.com.  you should be able to find the rest on starfumu's channel.

Edit again:  @andres  Really?  where's the swearing, nudity, blood, and plain obscenity then?  oh right, THERE IS NONE!

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#55 2011-05-03 11:55:58

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

The Japanese version of Kirby is like 18+


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#56 2011-05-10 20:48:23

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

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You honestly can't see the dangerous themes? You've become accustomed to the violence then, and it no longer affects you, it is even at the point where you might not notice it. But look at it through a parent's eyes!

HE'S A PINK BALL THAT EATS STUFF TO SAVE THE WORLD.
A.
PINK.
MARSHMALLOW.
Oh wait, you were talking about it having a decent plot and good music.  Silly me, I thought adventures and fights were normal on any TV show.  Wait a minute...  THEY ARE!!  THEY'RE THE BARE NECESSITY FOR *ANY* SHOW TARGETED ABOVE 4-YEAR OLDS!!
@onyxsbane  You're right, i might have actually enjoyed that show if not for 4kids.
Sure, there's the occasional c**p or d****t, but, those can be replaced easily.  They DIDN'T have to change EVERY LINE THERE WAS!!  Also, my parents allow anything kirby, nothing wrong with it.

Kirby is aimed for like 5-10 year olds, but these other Japanese shows... *whistles* Jeez...

actually...  wait a minute...  look back at 2003, when kirby was made.  not 2011, they have to fill it with obscenity for any americans to notice it, but 1990-2003.  look at animes then.  perfectly innocent.


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#57 2011-05-11 09:41:34

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

pikachu1337 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:


HE'S A PINK BALL THAT EATS STUFF TO SAVE THE WORLD.
A.
PINK.
MARSHMALLOW.
Oh wait, you were talking about it having a decent plot and good music.  Silly me, I thought adventures and fights were normal on any TV show.  Wait a minute...  THEY ARE!!  THEY'RE THE BARE NECESSITY FOR *ANY* SHOW TARGETED ABOVE 4-YEAR OLDS!!
@onyxsbane  You're right, i might have actually enjoyed that show if not for 4kids.
Sure, there's the occasional c**p or d****t, but, those can be replaced easily.  They DIDN'T have to change EVERY LINE THERE WAS!!  Also, my parents allow anything kirby, nothing wrong with it.

Kirby is aimed for like 5-10 year olds, but these other Japanese shows... *whistles* Jeez...

actually...  wait a minute...  look back at 2003, when kirby was made.  not 2011, they have to fill it with obscenity for any americans to notice it, but 1990-2003.  look at animes then.  perfectly innocent.

Hahaha, no. No offense but you should really do reseach before saying things like this.


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#58 2011-05-11 09:49:27

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

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Personally I love 4kids and their family friendly dubs. I don't want my kids exposed to dangerous themes. Thank you 4kids.

the shows are actually pretty good. my fave is winx. but then my family switched to COX and i couldnt watch it anymore.  sad   smile


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#59 2011-05-11 16:52:52

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Andres-Vander wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:


Kirby is aimed for like 5-10 year olds, but these other Japanese shows... *whistles* Jeez...

actually...  wait a minute...  look back at 2003, when kirby was made.  not 2011, they have to fill it with obscenity for any americans to notice it, but 1990-2003.  look at animes then.  perfectly innocent.

Hahaha, no. No offense but you should really do reseach before saying things like this.

Two words: aeon flux.  According to some people, the last great hand drawn anime.


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#60 2011-05-11 16:54:04

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

pikachu1337 wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:

actually...  wait a minute...  look back at 2003, when kirby was made.  not 2011, they have to fill it with obscenity for any americans to notice it, but 1990-2003.  look at animes then.  perfectly innocent.

Hahaha, no. No offense but you should really do reseach before saying things like this.

Two words: aeon flux.  According to some people, the last great hand drawn anime.

Some people aren't me. My favorite anime is DBZ.


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#61 2011-05-11 16:57:11

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

pikachu1337 wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:


actually...  wait a minute...  look back at 2003, when kirby was made.  not 2011, they have to fill it with obscenity for any americans to notice it, but 1990-2003.  look at animes then.  perfectly innocent.

Hahaha, no. No offense but you should really do reseach before saying things like this.

Two words: aeon flux.  According to some people, the last great hand drawn anime.

That's not really relevant. While there have been a lot of 'innocent animes' released in that time period, what's being said is that there's more than enough extremely bad stuff to match it from then as well. I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.


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#62 2011-05-11 17:01:12

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

Hahaha, no. No offense but you should really do reseach before saying things like this.

Two words: aeon flux.  According to some people, the last great hand drawn anime.

That's not really relevant. While there have been a lot of 'innocent animes' released in that time period, what's being said is that there's more than enough extremely bad stuff to match it from then as well. I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.

Like...?


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#63 2011-05-11 17:04:53

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

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#64 2011-05-11 17:06:55

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

rdococ wrote:

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

They ruined it by making stuff like "Yu-gi-oh XD: Numbers and Random Letters." Those remakes suck. So does Bakugan. It's just a merge of Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh.


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#65 2011-05-11 17:10:07

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

SpriteMaster wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:


Two words: aeon flux.  According to some people, the last great hand drawn anime.

That's not really relevant. While there have been a lot of 'innocent animes' released in that time period, what's being said is that there's more than enough extremely bad stuff to match it from then as well. I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.

Like...?

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.


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#66 2011-05-11 17:11:21

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

That's not really relevant. While there have been a lot of 'innocent animes' released in that time period, what's being said is that there's more than enough extremely bad stuff to match it from then as well. I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.

Like...?

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.

Ahem. WITHOUT INAPPROPRIATELY SAYING SOMETHING.... "Like....?"


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#67 2011-05-11 17:19:34

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

SpriteMaster wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:


Like...?

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

I would name a few, but I don't really want to be banned.

Ahem. WITHOUT INAPPROPRIATELY SAYING SOMETHING.... "Like....?"

The thing is, that the things I know of are really bad. And anything that's mentioned on here, I'm pretty sure will be searched up by... you know who you are. Do you know how disturbing some Japanese Animation can be? If you don't, you could probably get out now unscathed.


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#68 2011-05-11 17:20:31

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

SpriteMaster wrote:

rdococ wrote:

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

They ruined it by making stuff like "Yu-gi-oh XD: Numbers and Random Letters." Those remakes suck. So does Bakugan. It's just a merge of Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh.

See the underlined.

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#69 2011-05-11 18:19:32

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

SpriteMaster wrote:

rdococ wrote:

Onyxsbayne wrote:

I hate that they turned Yugioh from an awesome anime to a show most people now refer to for "5-year olds".   tongue

It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

They ruined it by making stuff like "Yu-gi-oh XD: Numbers and Random Letters." Those remakes suck. So does Bakugan. It's just a merge of Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh.

Well, actually that has nothing to do with 4Kids.  tongue  It just ends up the YGO theme is appealing to younger and younger audiences in Japan; so now the shows in Japan are being targeted for younger and younger audiences (case in point: look at YuGiOh: ZeXal and compare it to the predecessor series. That is targeted for a much younger audience than some of it's older predecessors).

But while on the subject of 4Kids:
One of the problems when transferring an anime or manga series over from Japan to Western countries is that what is considered to be okay in one culture might not the okay in another. Particularly, in the case of Japanese anime and manga, influence (most likely from World War II) has resulted in the Japanese culture to have a higher threshold for violence and suggestive content that most Western cultures would have some opposition to. It's coming up to the point where that might be changing a bit though - if anyone is interested in the subject, try looking up "New Tokyo Anime/Manga law" on a good ol' search engine.

Given the differences between the Japanese culture and Western culture, I'm actually surprised that 4Kids has still managed to release shows (let alone get the license to them in the first place) such as the original YGO, Shaman King, One Piece etc. when there were complaints from parents that the shows were "too violent" even despite 4Kids's heavy censorship edits. Granted that some of 4kids's edits seem silly or unnecessary (such as changing names, or changing images of scribbles into their own personal images of scribbles), but given that a lot of the shows still draw negative criticism from parents, from the fan's point of view, we're still getting away with a lot even with the edits.


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#70 2011-05-11 19:50:10

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4kids rocks, HOW DARE YOU INSULT IT!!!


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#71 2011-05-11 21:25:04

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

rdococ wrote:

SpriteMaster wrote:

rdococ wrote:


It's for 5-year-olds because 4kids is for kids, not adults. Stop saying bad things about it, especially if you are over 12!

They ruined it by making stuff like "Yu-gi-oh XD: Numbers and Random Letters." Those remakes suck. So does Bakugan. It's just a merge of Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh.

See the underlined.

Bakugan was originally Japanese too, and I just have to input that copyright laws these days make watching stuff like Bleach, Naruto, and ZEXAL even harder on YouTube.  I hate how people credit the original creators and clearly sh owing that they don't own it.  All this controversy on a few good cartoons is just unfair to those who want to view them.  sad


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#72 2011-05-12 07:09:54

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Bakugon isn't on 4kids. Epic fail.  tongue


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#73 2011-05-12 09:36:08

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I never said bakugan was dubbed by 4kids O_O


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#74 2011-05-12 16:39:54

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4Kids = 4Babieswhohaveoverprotectiveparents


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#75 2011-05-12 16:59:24

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