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#201 2010-09-09 20:25:26

Lucario621
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

cheddargirl wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


I don't really consider RPG galleries or collaboration galleries as chat galleries too much (and even then, RPGs and Collaborations still have a place on the forums should those galleries be closed  tongue ).

I am referring to galleries really for nonsensical chat (I'd post a link up here as an example, but that is not allowed here on the forums). I usually search them out and report them, and when you see the topics that go on in a majority of them, you'll understand why I don't like the prospect of chat galleries too much.

Oh, ok...

I still think miscellaneous is more of a threat than off-topic galleries though  tongue

Mnn, I don't really see it that way - I stumble on a lot of chat gallery topics that break the Terms of Use, and from reading them, I'd might say they're worse in behavior than what I've seen in Miscellaneous.

Aside from that, most Miscellaneous flare-ups are usually controlled fairly quickly because there's usually someone who is watching over them; and on calm days, Miscellaneous can actually be rather quite nice with interesting discussions (like discussions about experiencing a Ramadan fasting, going to MIT, long words, art critique, or Salvador Dali).

Something I've noticed with Miscellaneous over the years is that usually trouble spots are limited either to certain topics or certain users (and when these are usually taken care of, then the mischief goes away), so I'm not inclined to think that Miscellaneous is the main problem here (hence why I believe closing it completely doesn't help).

It think its more up to us Scratchers who currently use Miscellaneous to turn it into something more positive. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The power of remarkable change is in our hands. Now let's use that power to move Miscellaneous in the right direction.  smile

Yeah, I guess you might have changed my opinion now... (unlike andres xD)

You definitely are right.  smile  I just.... meh I don't know what to say  tongue


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#202 2010-09-09 20:32:01

andresmh
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Very good arguments cheddargirl!

Also, a message to everyone: all the sections of the website are completely optional. If you do not like some part of the website, well, do not visit it! :-)


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#203 2010-09-09 20:57:10

helltank
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Wait... so are you going to close Misc?

(Cheddargirl, you are soooo right)


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#204 2010-09-09 21:06:41

coolstuff
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

helltank wrote:

Wait... so are you going to close Misc?

(Cheddargirl, you are soooo right)

For now, probably not: Cheddargirl has mentioned that closing it isn't necessary, and Andres, the head honcho of the forums, agrees, so that's pretty conclusive to me.  smile

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#205 2010-09-10 13:33:02

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

I support this. Misc (AKA Twitter Jr.) isn't what it was back in '09.

Lol out of all the topics in that picture, only my topics are worthwhile xD


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#206 2010-09-10 15:55:39

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Wait, what happened while I was gone for 2 days? What's the current argument to keep Miscellaneous? I will try my hand at it.


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#207 2010-09-10 17:35:15

HD123
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

08jackt wrote:

I was always for keeping this forum up. But now I've just gotten sick of it.

It is the source of all spam, twitter updates, cool stories by bros and flames. I always believed it was there so we could all get to know each other, but now it's just ridiculous. A freakin' web comic was made to make fun of it. I think you all have to agree the misc forums have been going on long enough.

So, i think it's time to take it down.

People who agree
-08jackt
-rufflebee
-DaGamez
-Ace-of-Spades
-AtomicBawm3
-illusionist
-AtomicBawm3
-Chrischb
-filo5
-Jonathanpb

Don't want it closed? Look below. How many flame-bait or worthless topics do you see?
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Nothing here looks even a little bit scratch related, so I guess I must agree.


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#208 2011-05-09 14:52:02

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

I just think that they should say no RIDICULOUS topics like that one which said 'I'm scared of weegee'. But for other stuff, it's good.


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#209 2011-05-09 15:13:52

CloneCommando1
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

I say keep it.


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#210 2011-05-09 19:15:09

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Dinoclor wrote:

I just think that they should say no RIDICULOUS topics like that one which said 'I'm scared of weegee'. But for other stuff, it's good.

nercoposter


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#211 2011-05-09 20:48:41

agscratcher
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

It wouldn't be necessary to remove it. If you don't like it, just don't visit it.


*insert andremesh's post*

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#212 2011-05-09 21:04:49

12three
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Alright jacky. Let's say you remove all those topics. Here's what you're left with:

Minecraft
Stupid spam topic
Rate the sig (tbg btw)
Minecraft

Well that's it.

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#213 2011-05-09 21:10:55

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

CloneCommando1 wrote:

I say keep it.

+1


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#214 2011-05-09 21:32:34

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

puppetadventurer wrote:

Dinoclor wrote:

I just think that they should say no RIDICULOUS topics like that one which said 'I'm scared of weegee'. But for other stuff, it's good.

nercoposter

OMG sorry. I didn't check the date.


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#215 2011-05-09 21:41:43

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

How bout we make it a scratch-miscellaneous, not a miscellaneous?

I mean isnt that the part thats bad about it?


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#216 2011-05-09 21:48:08

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

EzekielE wrote:

How bout we make it a scratch-miscellaneous, not a miscellaneous?

I mean isnt that the part thats bad about it?

No, it's not.


The part that's bad is that people take advantage of the "freedom". Kinda like when one does something bad, they say "it's a free country." Besides, Misc. is the only REASON the forums are known.

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#217 2011-05-09 21:54:43

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

agscratcher wrote:

EzekielE wrote:

How bout we make it a scratch-miscellaneous, not a miscellaneous?

I mean isnt that the part thats bad about it?

No, it's not.


The part that's bad is that people take advantage of the "freedom". Kinda like when one does something bad, they say "it's a free country." Besides, Misc. is the only REASON the forums are known.

Well, there needs to be a place to have a discussion you can't decide where to place...


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#218 2011-05-09 23:24:16

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

EzekielE wrote:

How bout we make it a scratch-miscellaneous, not a miscellaneous?

I mean isnt that the part thats bad about it?

That defeats the purpose, because Misc. is for things that don't have to do with Scratch, and making a Scratch-Miscellaneous is just doing the opposite of that.

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#219 2011-05-09 23:34:27

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Chrischb wrote:

samurai768 wrote:

It can't be closed. Where will we get out inspriation? That's what inspiration and more is for. It seems like everyone forgets that. Miscellaneous isn't "OH HAI THIS ISH TEH SPAM FORUM".

Project Ideas serves well...


But who has a case of inspiration to share? I don't.


As for socializing, the TBG is good. All "vacationeers" I can remember have fallen in love there.

I did but then I got banned.  sad

I started liking misc a little while ago; I want to keep it.  smile

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#220 2011-05-10 01:06:17

Chrischb
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

scimonster wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

samurai768 wrote:

It can't be closed. Where will we get out inspriation? That's what inspiration and more is for. It seems like everyone forgets that. Miscellaneous isn't "OH HAI THIS ISH TEH SPAM FORUM".

Project Ideas serves well...


But who has a case of inspiration to share? I don't.


As for socializing, the TBG is good. All "vacationeers" I can remember have fallen in love there.

I did but then I got banned.  sad

O_o ARE YOU KIDDING ME???  yikes   yikes   yikes



BTW: Awesome, thanks for bumping xD

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#221 2011-05-10 01:07:00

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Chrischb wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Chrischb wrote:


Project Ideas serves well...


But who has a case of inspiration to share? I don't.


As for socializing, the TBG is good. All "vacationeers" I can remember have fallen in love there.

I did but then I got banned.  sad

O_o ARE YOU KIDDING ME???  yikes   yikes   yikes

My parents said I'm not allowed on anymore.  sad  sad

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#222 2011-05-10 01:08:13

Chrischb
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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

scimonster wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

scimonster wrote:


I did but then I got banned.  sad

O_o ARE YOU KIDDING ME???  yikes   yikes   yikes

My parents said I'm not allowed on anymore.  sad  sad

Why? If anything you shouldn't be allowed on the main forums...  hmm


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#223 2011-05-10 01:12:33

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Chrischb wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Chrischb wrote:


O_o ARE YOU KIDDING ME???  yikes   yikes   yikes

My parents said I'm not allowed on anymore.  sad  sad

Why? If anything you shouldn't be allowed on the main forums...  hmm

Why? It's because they don't want me "wasting time" playing games with people who are banned, but it's OK if I'm helping people here. They don't know about misc.  tongue

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#224 2011-05-10 01:21:56

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

So you're basically deceiving your parents by being on Miscellaneous.

I don't think we should close this forum, but do a complete spam removal and freedom rinse. If you want to socialize with others, go on a site meant for that. This is a programming forum, sheesh.


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#225 2011-05-10 01:26:26

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Re: Lets Close Miscellaneous

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

So you're basically deceiving your parents by being on Miscellaneous.

I don't think we should close this forum, but do a complete spam removal and freedom rinse. If you want to socialize with others, go on a site meant for that. This is a programming forum, sheesh.

I am not deceiving them. They know I do stuff other than programming on here, but not really what it is.  neutral

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