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scimonster wrote:

I don't always feel like waiting half an hour while my parents are doing other things, especially not for a beta. 

Suggestion:  Talk them into installing it and then making you the owner of c:/byob, and then you can just replace the image file when a new one comes out.

Last edited by bharvey (2011-05-05 01:58:01)

rdococ wrote:

Fixed the broken links.

Thanks!  I can't believe I did that.     (Or that it took three days for someone to notice...)

bharvey wrote:

Check out my animal game BYOB project.

That's really cool! I wish I had the time to build up a huge library of questions and answers. 

bharvey wrote:

Check out my animal game BYOB project.

Wow that is really cool!

Really? I was under the impression that it would just be called "Snap".

Huh. OK, I get your point. 

rdococ wrote:

BYOB 9.0

I don't think I'm going to live that long!  If you want a BYOB 9.0 you'll have to invent it yourselves. 

Edit:  No, nothing wrong with me, just that I don't think we'll continue at the rate of a major version per year.  First class procedures really turned everything upside down, and moving to Javascript is a big upheaval, but the other things on the list -- first class costumes, sounds, web pages, files, etc., and many small UI improvements -- won't warrant a major version number.  With luck, you'll see ... 4.11, 4.12, ... for quite a while.

It's an example of the usual 90/10 rule of software development (and most other things too):  The first 90% of the work takes the first 10% of the time, and the remaining 10% of the work takes the remaining 90% of the time.  We're in the tail of that distribution.

I suppose if we develop a phone-screen-friendly version, that might get a major version number, although Jens is having so much fun with Morphic in his iPhone browser that it might be faster than that.     Maybe when we invent the version for the chips implanted in your children's or grandchildren's heads?

Last edited by bharvey (2011-05-08 14:01:44)

bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

That's really cool!

Thanks.  Once we get around to first class costumes and first class web pages (Snap v. 4.7 or something) I want to put in real-time scraping of the Wikipedia page for the animal being guessed to find a picture of it and switch to that as a costume!

First-class costumes and first-class webpages?!? You're thinking creative!

What about a [script block]?
It's like [script variable]; but it goes like this: (in BYOB)
[script block (call variable) with script [block insert, not C block] ]
The variable used in the script is set to what's in the block insert, and can be run with the [run] block. Like? It's like first-class blocks!

Because of the new grey-bordered notation, what about a grey-bordered block that reports what's inside as if it was grey-bordered?

Last edited by rdococ (2011-05-09 08:39:32)

rdococ wrote:

What about a [script block]?
It's like [script variable]; but it goes like this: (in BYOB)
[script block (call variable) with script [block insert, not C block] ]
The variable used in the script is set to what's in the block insert, and can be run with the [run] block. Like? It's like first-class blocks!

Umm, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean, we already have that -- first class blocks and scripts were the big new thing in 3.0!

SCRIPT VARIABLES <variable>
SET <variable> TO [THE SCRIPT <your script>]

rdococ wrote:

Because of the new grey-bordered notation, what about a grey-bordered block that reports what's inside as if it was grey-bordered?

That's what THE BLOCK and THE SCRIPT do.  You could easily write a custom block with no name (you have to give a name to the Make a block dialog, but once you're in the block editor you can just change that name to the input name) and a Procedure-type input that just reports the input, if you want the grey-border abbreviation.

A not-well-documented feature is that you can shift-click on a block and BYOB will wrap a THE BLOCK or THE SCRIPT around it for you; that's another way to abbreviate lambdafication.

I have an idea for Snap 4.0. Allow us to make the new types of blocks, e.g. like the script block without the C input. You should be allowed to make a C input if you want in the new block type tho, etc.

bharvey wrote:

rdococ wrote:

I have an idea for Snap 4.0. Allow us to make the new types of blocks, e.g. like the script block without the C input. You should be allowed to make a C input if you want in the new block type tho, etc.

This already exists.  Notice "Command (inline)" and "C-shaped" in the input type dialog below.

http://byob.berkeley.edu/longinput.png

Actually, I was refering to if we could create blocks the shape of [the script], not having those inputs. Therefore it does not exist.