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#26 2011-05-02 15:51:55

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

funamation is a bigger problem


they buy like all the animes and dub them


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#27 2011-05-02 16:02:52

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

littletonkslover wrote:

funamation is a bigger problem


they buy like all the animes and dub them

They, however, later released uncensored versions at a later date. 4Kids? PFFT! They will go as far as filling a JAPANESE anime with AMERICAN PATRIOTISM. (Look at the 4Kids national anthem, that's messed up.)


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#28 2011-05-02 16:04:10

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:


You honestly can't see the dangerous themes? You've become accustomed to the violence then, and it no longer affects you, it is even at the point where you might not notice it. But look at it through a parent's eyes!

HE'S A PINK BALL THAT EATS STUFF TO SAVE THE WORLD.
A.
PINK.
MARSHMALLOW.
Oh wait, you were talking about it having a decent plot and good music.  Silly me, I thought adventures and fights were normal on any TV show.  Wait a minute...  THEY ARE!!  THEY'RE THE BARE NECESSITY FOR *ANY* SHOW TARGETED ABOVE 4-YEAR OLDS!!
@onyxsbane  You're right, i might have actually enjoyed that show if not for 4kids.
Sure, there's the occasional c**p or d****t, but, those can be replaced easily.  They DIDN'T have to change EVERY LINE THERE WAS!!  Also, my parents allow anything kirby, nothing wrong with it.

Kirby is aimed for like 5-10 year olds, but these other Japanese shows... *whistles* Jeez...

no.  the 4kids kirby is aimed for 1-4 year olds to please adults.  JAPANESE is aimed for 6-11 year olds.


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#29 2011-05-02 16:18:21

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Here's the problem with dubbing:

In Japan, kids can see much more stuff that we consider "inappropriate for children," i.e. swearing, blood in big amounts, and...obscene content.

In America, those things are adult-only topics, but the anime is still marketed as a kid's show. Therefore, they must dub it AND censor it. That's fine, but it can make HUGE plot holes, and sometimes ruin it as a whole. That's bad enough to an anime fan, but people like 4Kids LOAD it with American propaganda. That's enough for an average viewer to keel over and puke blood.


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#30 2011-05-02 16:31:34

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

agscratcher wrote:

Here's the problem with dubbing:

In Japan, kids can see much more stuff that we consider "inappropriate for children," i.e. swearing, blood in big amounts, and...obscene content.

In America, those things are adult-only topics, but the anime is still marketed as a kid's show. Therefore, they must dub it AND censor it. That's fine, but it can make HUGE plot holes, and sometimes ruin it as a whole. That's bad enough to an anime fan, but people like 4Kids LOAD it with American propaganda. That's enough for an average viewer to keel over and puke blood.

doesn't japan have stricter policies?


that's what i picked up from the censoring of video games


btw that's totally untrue. i know a ton of kids in 3rd grade and stuff what watched scream, south park, played CoD and Halo, listened to Emimen, etc


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#31 2011-05-02 16:47:48

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Lolz, I'm now going to play Minecraft. And build a statue of the 4Kids logo. And destroy it. jk. I don't have enough blocks.

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#32 2011-05-02 16:56:33

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Why such a big deal about 4Kids? I'm just like the rest of you, I think their shows are really lame, but do you really have to make such a big deal about their anime dubs? If you don't like them, just look for a subbed or a better-dubbed version, instead of hating on 4Kids so much about it. Who cares if they tweaked the names a bit? I don't. I think people that worry about stupid things, like this, are nerds. If you really hate it so much, why don't you just keep your mouth shut from talking about it. The more you talk about it, the more it seems you do like it, so just stop. Find a channel with better anime dubs if you hate them so much.
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#33 2011-05-02 17:45:21

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

PandaGuy wrote:

Why such a big deal about 4Kids? I'm just like the rest of you, I think their shows are really lame, but do you really have to make such a big deal about their anime dubs? If you don't like them, just look for a subbed or a better-dubbed version, instead of hating on 4Kids so much about it. Who cares if they tweaked the names a bit? I don't. I think people that worry about stupid things, like this, are nerds. If you really hate it so much, why don't you just keep your mouth shut from talking about it. The more you talk about it, the more it seems you do like it, so just stop. Find a channel with better anime dubs if you hate them so much.
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but with hoshi no kaabi they just took it too far.  WHAT OBSCENITIES DO YOU SEE THERE??


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#34 2011-05-02 17:53:01

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

littletonkslover wrote:

btw that's totally untrue. i know a ton of kids in 3rd grade and stuff what watched scream, south park, played CoD and Halo, listened to Emimen, etc

But it wasn't MEANT for them. The dubbers say that "everything should be kid-friendly". Sure, you see little 8-year olds playing CoD, but was CoD MEANT for 8-year olds? No. That's what you fail to see.


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#35 2011-05-02 18:32:15

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

agscratcher wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

btw that's totally untrue. i know a ton of kids in 3rd grade and stuff what watched scream, south park, played CoD and Halo, listened to Emimen, etc

But it wasn't MEANT for them. The dubbers say that "everything should be kid-friendly". Sure, you see little 8-year olds playing CoD, but was CoD MEANT for 8-year olds? No. That's what you fail to see.

Exactly! Another intelligent statement from agscratcher! +1,000 No, seriously, that was a very good point you made!  wink


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#36 2011-05-02 18:43:39

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

PandaGuy wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

btw that's totally untrue. i know a ton of kids in 3rd grade and stuff what watched scream, south park, played CoD and Halo, listened to Emimen, etc

But it wasn't MEANT for them. The dubbers say that "everything should be kid-friendly". Sure, you see little 8-year olds playing CoD, but was CoD MEANT for 8-year olds? No. That's what you fail to see.

Exactly! Another intelligent statement from agscratcher! +1,000 No, seriously, that was a very good point you made!  wink

o-o You're acting like I'm Chuck Norris or something.


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#37 2011-05-02 18:45:57

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

WOW wrote:

Japanese:
I will win!
4Kids:
I won't lose!
Japanese:
Fumu, Bun, Lololo, Lalala.
4Kids:
Tiff, Tuff, Fololo, Falala (about the last two-- seriously 4kids?  Everyone knows the actual names from the games.  Don't even try to change that.

What's even bad about that.

Not losing IS winning, so like why not just SAY win?

And what's with name edits. lolololol


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#38 2011-05-02 18:49:48

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

soupoftomato wrote:

WOW wrote:

Japanese:
I will win!
4Kids:
I won't lose!
Japanese:
Fumu, Bun, Lololo, Lalala.
4Kids:
Tiff, Tuff, Fololo, Falala (about the last two-- seriously 4kids?  Everyone knows the actual names from the games.  Don't even try to change that.

What's even bad about that.

Not losing IS winning, so like why not just SAY win?

And what's with name edits. lolololol

You mean Lololo.

I am not a fan of anime or manga anyway, and I don't even have 4kids.

  I remember ACA (AKA VolkerX7XFish) made a topic about this in I&M.


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#39 2011-05-02 18:54:08

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

bananaman114 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

WOW wrote:

Japanese:
I will win!
4Kids:
I won't lose!
Japanese:
Fumu, Bun, Lololo, Lalala.
4Kids:
Tiff, Tuff, Fololo, Falala (about the last two-- seriously 4kids?  Everyone knows the actual names from the games.  Don't even try to change that.

What's even bad about that.

Not losing IS winning, so like why not just SAY win?

And what's with name edits. lolololol

You mean Lololo.

I am not a fan of anime or manga anyway, and I don't even have 4kids.

  I remember ACA (AKA VolkerX7XFish) made a topic about this in I&M.

Thanks for replying to every question I had and avoiding referencing memes and avoiding correcting textspeak.

You are truly helpful.

No really.


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#40 2011-05-02 18:58:38

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

bananaman114 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

WOW wrote:

Japanese:
I will win!
4Kids:
I won't lose!
Japanese:
Fumu, Bun, Lololo, Lalala.
4Kids:
Tiff, Tuff, Fololo, Falala (about the last two-- seriously 4kids?  Everyone knows the actual names from the games.  Don't even try to change that.

What's even bad about that.

Not losing IS winning, so like why not just SAY win?

And what's with name edits. lolololol

You mean Lololo.

I am not a fan of anime or manga anyway, and I don't even have 4kids.

  I remember ACA (AKA VolkerX7XFish) made a topic about this in I&M.

VolknerN7XFish is not AnimeCreatorArtist...


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#41 2011-05-02 19:00:02

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


What's even bad about that.

Not losing IS winning, so like why not just SAY win?

And what's with name edits. lolololol

You mean Lololo.

I am not a fan of anime or manga anyway, and I don't even have 4kids.

  I remember ACA (AKA VolkerX7XFish) made a topic about this in I&M.

VolknerN7XFish is not AnimeCreatorArtist...

wink
That's what they would want us to believe.

I live in a world where I am rufflebee and werdna is puppetadventurer and you are..

Oh wait.


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#42 2011-05-02 19:09:20

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

agscratcher wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

agscratcher wrote:

But it wasn't MEANT for them. The dubbers say that "everything should be kid-friendly". Sure, you see little 8-year olds playing CoD, but was CoD MEANT for 8-year olds? No. That's what you fail to see.

Exactly! Another intelligent statement from agscratcher! +1,000 No, seriously, that was a very good point you made!  wink

o-o You're acting like I'm Chuck Norris or something.


You alright there fella?

What the--?! Why Chuck Norris?!  hmm

You alright there fella?

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#43 2011-05-02 19:14:18

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

pikachu1337 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:


You honestly can't see the dangerous themes? You've become accustomed to the violence then, and it no longer affects you, it is even at the point where you might not notice it. But look at it through a parent's eyes!

HE'S A PINK BALL THAT EATS STUFF TO SAVE THE WORLD.
A.
PINK.
MARSHMALLOW.
Oh wait, you were talking about it having a decent plot and good music.  Silly me, I thought adventures and fights were normal on any TV show.  Wait a minute...  THEY ARE!!  THEY'RE THE BARE NECESSITY FOR *ANY* SHOW TARGETED ABOVE 4-YEAR OLDS!!
@onyxsbane  You're right, i might have actually enjoyed that show if not for 4kids.
Sure, there's the occasional c**p or d****t, but, those can be replaced easily.  They DIDN'T have to change EVERY LINE THERE WAS!!  Also, my parents allow anything kirby, nothing wrong with it.

Kirby is aimed for like 5-10 year olds, but these other Japanese shows... *whistles* Jeez...

Yeah, I think the issue is most of these shows are- in Japan- aimed for teenagers. 4kids tried to lower the target age, and apparently annoyed many people.


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#44 2011-05-02 19:16:43

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

bananaman114 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


You mean Lololo.

I am not a fan of anime or manga anyway, and I don't even have 4kids.

  I remember ACA (AKA VolkerX7XFish) made a topic about this in I&M.

VolknerN7XFish is not AnimeCreatorArtist...

wink
That's what they would want us to believe.

I live in a world where I am rufflebee and werdna is puppetadventurer and you are..

Oh wait.

I am Blade-Edge


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#45 2011-05-02 19:18:35

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:


VolknerN7XFish is not AnimeCreatorArtist...

wink
That's what they would want us to believe.

I live in a world where I am rufflebee and werdna is puppetadventurer and you are..

Oh wait.

I am Blade-Edge

I used the ... to show that I stopped right before saying that. If you are or aren't.

I know which.

The above post was just to show that I am absolutely insane. My above post that is.


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#46 2011-05-02 19:42:02

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

hah, the kirby anime...
that thing that made kirby look like some kind of stupid monster-thingie...
i don't car alot 'bout this, but, hey, it's 4kids, they will do ANYTHING that must not be done!
they gave Kracko the sword ability!
they made Rocky HORRIBLE (seriously, it actually looks very cute in the game)
what they do is ruining things, and that's it.


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#47 2011-05-02 20:00:21

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

bananaman114 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


You mean Lololo.

I am not a fan of anime or manga anyway, and I don't even have 4kids.

  I remember ACA (AKA VolkerX7XFish) made a topic about this in I&M.

VolknerN7XFish is not AnimeCreatorArtist...

wink
That's what they would want us to believe.

I live in a world where I am rufflebee and werdna is puppetadventurer and you are..

Oh wait.

You are not me.

Trying to game the community goes against the terms of use


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#48 2011-05-02 20:03:21

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

rufflebee wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:


VolknerN7XFish is not AnimeCreatorArtist...

wink
That's what they would want us to believe.

I live in a world where I am rufflebee and werdna is puppetadventurer and you are..

Oh wait.

You are not me.

Trying to game the community goes against the terms of use

I know that I am not you.
I just used that as an example to show how completely off my rocker I really am.


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#49 2011-05-02 20:06:38

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

bananaman114 wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


wink
That's what they would want us to believe.

I live in a world where I am rufflebee and werdna is puppetadventurer and you are..

Oh wait.

You are not me.

Trying to game the community goes against the terms of use

I know that I am not you.
I just used that as an example to show how completely off my rocker I really am.

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#50 2011-05-02 20:35:00

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Re: Why, 4kids? WHY??

FG20 wrote:

hah, the kirby anime...
that thing that made kirby look like some kind of stupid monster-thingie...
i don't car alot 'bout this, but, hey, it's 4kids, they will do ANYTHING that must not be done!
they gave Kracko the sword ability!
they made Rocky HORRIBLE (seriously, it actually looks very cute in the game)
what they do is ruining things, and that's it.

Well, actually, the original japanese did that, and, if you're talking about the demon beast from when kirby originally discovered stone, that was supposed to NOT be rocky.  That demon beast's actual name was blocky.  elsewhere, i'm not sure.  also, watch that kracko/sword type thing again.  Did you notice it was a sword made of lightning?  no.   you didn't.  Also, about what you called kirby...  he's a star warrior.  not sure what 4kids called them,  and frankly, i know they ruined it even without that knowledge, but let me assure you, 4kids made NO footage.  only edits and dubbing.

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