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While I appreciate your heartfelt sentiments, this really doesn't belong in Troubleshooting. As it seems to be something more of a suggestion, I'll move it to the "Suggestions" forum.

As to this topic - it has been mentioned a HUGE number of times before. However, maybe rather than complaining about the issue, you could perhaps offer a potential solution to the problem?

The popular Scratchers got there by making good projects in the first place. As a result, they now are well known and their projects get a lot of traffic. They faced the same problems you are, and deserve to be there. Work hard, and you will too!

bbbeb wrote:

Harakou wrote:

Most of the popular Scratchers got there by making good projects in the first place. As a result, they now are well known and their projects get a lot of traffic. They faced the same problems you are, and deserve to be there. Work hard, and you will too!

No they did not.

Look at [removed - please don't attack other Scratchers]. He needs to be kicked off.

Let me edit Harakou's post.

Anyways, there are ways to get famous besides making good projects.
Just be active and helpful on the Scratch Forums (and the TBGs).

I only had one front-page but I'm sorta known on the forums.

Last edited by Paddle2See (2011-04-05 21:30:01)

So Scratch would just pick a couple of completly random projects every week? Sounds good to me.

LS97 wrote:

CloneCommando1 wrote:

So Scratch would just pick a couple of completly random projects every week? Sounds good to me.

There's just way too many projects for that. We need something more active.

It would take a genius to find a solution that really works... there have been so many suggestions, and there is always a snag to each one.

If you want to get feedback, the guaranteed way to do it is to get a group of friends to all comment whenever one of them shares a new project. It doesn`t get you famous, but it at least helps you improve.

Boltbate, yes, making 'good' projects and putting in effort helps.  But you still have to be already 'popular' or self promote heavily... and you have to know tricks how to self promote, like making fancy image footers with links to your projects, and spambumping show and tell/galeries, and begging the curator... 

Try starting a new account then posting a new awesome project.  Unless you "spam" or know how to and spend time self promoting, there's little chance it will get attention.  (I've tried that a few times.)

I thought it was unfortunate when heavy spam filters to comments on projects was implemented, without addressing what I think the deeper issue is we need a simple and fair way to self promote/request help. (also discussed earlier here.)
I think It should be easy to associate with others looking for feedback/help now.  We don't start off as awesome scratchers, but we can still help others, and should be able to get help easier.

Scmb1, thanks for trying to help with that good sugestion!
Randomizing the top 10 to top 3 would make the front page seem less stale, but I don't think it can fix the feedback loop. 
We'll have a top 10 that you'll need to refresh the front page several times to see the rest of instead of a stale but honest top 3.

And I bet we'll still have complaints of there's not enough/too much games/art/animation/simulation type projects.

We're varied now, tags and galleries are supposed to help us categorize and find similar types of projects, but they are too easy to abuse.
I've suggested a way to fix that.

(I try not to bump my suggestions unless I have something to add, so they don't get much attention lately.  So, please check them out and ask questions/help improve them/suggest
something better.)

tl;dr  The front page problem is deeper than the front page.  I think we need (a) simple and fair way(s) to promote and categorize projects.

Last edited by JTxt (2011-04-07 11:52:08)

Almost everyone gets home-paged.  In the "Newest Projects" section.

You're welcome.

Earthboundjeff wrote:

I'm pretty famous.

You are..?
Not exactly...

I have been front paged a number of times but I don't exactly find myself getting any views anymore.

I think there should be a limit to how many times/projects someone can get on the homepage and how often.

Maybe one Homepage every two days? And if they get homepage five to ten times in a row, it increases to one homepage every four days and so on?

BoltBait wrote:

The best way to get to the front page is to put some effort into your projects.

You can't just throw something together in 5 minutes and expect to be top viewed.

And when you DO throw something together in 5 minutes and it gets top viewed, it is extremely unexpected!
(see this project, which got top viewed with 653 views!)

Agentpieface wrote:

I don't get many views anymore, only around 50-100 which is horrible for someone who HAS been front paged twice.

I myself have been on the front page like 10 times or 5 times or something like that. Most of my projects are in the range of 50-100 views I think. some of my projects do get over 100 views, including one that essentially does nothing.

Anyways, my suggestion for this problem is that a category, "surprise projects", gets put back onto the front page, except for the only projects that are included in this category must already have at least one favorite. I would expect that this sort of filter would cause a much higher quality expectation, not that all favorited projects have to be good, but most are. It would also make some of my own projects ineligible, but many of those are projects which I have others which are similar to them which usually do have at least one favorite. If I have made a series, usually a user who wants to favorite it will just favorite one of the series, usually the last and lastest version, because it would be pointless to have redundancy. on the other hand, someone might press "love it" on every version in the series, or maybe not.

Earthboundjeff wrote:

I'm pretty famous.

Fame is an illusion, but you are popular.