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#576 2011-04-25 15:00:18

Pecola1
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

scimonster wrote:

Does anyone want to make a downloadable .image for Scratch, with all the blocks?

Sure, It might take a while but that is a great idea! Though usually a user doesn't want ALL of the blocks, but it would be kind of nice. Another flaw would be, the user would not learn from it. Anyone wands to make a logo? I should say 'Your Local Block Library' it could be like a mod, with all the blocks in the scratch shelf!


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#577 2011-04-25 15:00:24

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

scimonster wrote:

Does anyone want to make a downloadable .image for Scratch, with all the blocks?

I could do all the scratch blocks...some of them.   tongue
Are none librarians allowed to help?

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#578 2011-04-25 15:07:15

scimonster
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Does anyone want to make a downloadable .image for Scratch, with all the blocks?

I could do all the scratch blocks...some of them.   tongue
Are none librarians allowed to help?

What do you mean? You can so it, if you want!  smile

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#579 2011-04-25 15:27:35

ProgrammingFreak
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

scimonster wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Does anyone want to make a downloadable .image for Scratch, with all the blocks?

I could do all the scratch blocks...some of them.   tongue
Are none librarians allowed to help?

What do you mean? You can do it, if you want!  smile

I didn't know if I could do it since I wasn't a librarian.  big_smile

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#580 2011-04-25 15:41:43

Pecola1
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Does anyone want to make a downloadable .image for Scratch, with all the blocks?

I could do all the scratch blocks...some of them.   tongue
Are none librarians allowed to help?

I was doing it, I am done with motion! If you wanted to do it go ahead, please tell me though.


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#581 2011-04-25 15:43:06

Pecola1
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

scimonster wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:


I could do all the scratch blocks...some of them.   tongue
Are none librarians allowed to help?

What do you mean? You can do it, if you want!  smile

I didn't know if I could do it since I wasn't a librarian.  big_smile

You can, I doubt it really matters, SPARKS!


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#582 2011-04-25 15:46:29

ProgrammingFreak
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

Pecola1 wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

scimonster wrote:


What do you mean? You can do it, if you want!  smile

I didn't know if I could do it since I wasn't a librarian.  big_smile

You can, I doubt it really matters, SPARKS!

tongue

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#583 2011-04-25 15:47:13

Pecola1
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

Pecola1 wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

I didn't know if I could do it since I wasn't a librarian.  big_smile

You can, I doubt it really matters, SPARKS!

tongue

tongue  er


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#584 2011-04-25 15:53:15

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

I edited the set rotation style block, it was redundant.
~Pecola1

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#585 2011-04-25 16:35:06

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

SSBBM wrote:

Here are somethings that were forgotten.

SSBBM wrote:

What do you think of a page for the librarians and/or the history of the library.

sparks wrote:

Oh yes, I forgot to add the updates archive!

I'm thinking, what are people's thoughts on rather than having a link back to the block home at the bottom of each pallet catagory, we put small images too? Here, I'll mockup:
______________________________
^back to Scratch blocks
^back to contents
 

We still want these right?

[offtopic]

SSBBM wrote:

...I've had a rough day (I got robbed).

We got some of our stuff back today!  big_smile
[/offtopic]


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#586 2011-04-25 16:43:47

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

Instead of making an image with all the library blocks, why don't we cannibalize nXIII's patcher system and make all the blocks into patches? (Otherwise we might end up like me when I was making one project for all the BYOB blocks, and then we switched to individual sprites.)


Yawn.

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#587 2011-04-25 16:46:54

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

meowmeow55 wrote:

Instead of making an image with all the library blocks, why don't we cannibalize nXIII's patcher system and make all the blocks into patches? (Otherwise we might end up like me when I was making one project for all the BYOB blocks, and then we switched to individual sprites.)

Nice idea! Thanks. ~Pecola1

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#588 2011-04-25 16:53:39

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

meowmeow55 wrote:

Instead of making an image with all the library blocks, why don't we cannibalize nXIII's patcher system and make all the blocks into patches? (Otherwise we might end up like me when I was making one project for all the BYOB blocks, and then we switched to individual sprites.)

Okay, but we need a new section on how to download a scratch block, can you do that? I am making the patch maker.
Actually, all we need to do is have in that section how to make the patch maker, then how to download the block, this will take some work, but then we will have the WHOLE LIBRARY DOWNLOADABLE! Won't that be great!
We need to give credit to nXIII.
~Pecola1

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#589 2011-04-25 17:06:11

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

YourLocalBlockLib wrote:

meowmeow55 wrote:

Instead of making an image with all the library blocks, why don't we cannibalize nXIII's patcher system and make all the blocks into patches? (Otherwise we might end up like me when I was making one project for all the BYOB blocks, and then we switched to individual sprites.)

Okay, but we need a new section on how to download a scratch block, can you do that? I am making the patch maker.
Actually, all we need to do is have in that section how to make the patch maker, then how to download the block, this will take some work, but then we will have the WHOLE LIBRARY DOWNLOADABLE! Won't that be great!
We need to give credit to nXIII.
~Pecola1

I made the section. ~Pecola1


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#590 2011-04-25 17:08:30

johnnydean1
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

YourLocalBlockLib wrote:

YourLocalBlockLib wrote:

meowmeow55 wrote:

Instead of making an image with all the library blocks, why don't we cannibalize nXIII's patcher system and make all the blocks into patches? (Otherwise we might end up like me when I was making one project for all the BYOB blocks, and then we switched to individual sprites.)

Okay, but we need a new section on how to download a scratch block, can you do that? I am making the patch maker.
Actually, all we need to do is have in that section how to make the patch maker, then how to download the block, this will take some work, but then we will have the WHOLE LIBRARY DOWNLOADABLE! Won't that be great!
We need to give credit to nXIII.
~Pecola1

I made the section. ~Pecola1

You could make your own way of adding patches.


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#591 2011-04-25 17:12:46

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

johnnydean1 wrote:

YourLocalBlockLib wrote:

YourLocalBlockLib wrote:


Okay, but we need a new section on how to download a scratch block, can you do that? I am making the patch maker.
Actually, all we need to do is have in that section how to make the patch maker, then how to download the block, this will take some work, but then we will have the WHOLE LIBRARY DOWNLOADABLE! Won't that be great!
We need to give credit to nXIII.
~Pecola1

I made the section. ~Pecola1

You could make your own way of adding patches.

I know, but it is easier this way. ~Pecola1


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#592 2011-04-25 17:33:37

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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

I just cleaned up the importer section and code, so now the code says "Import Block" where it used to say "Add Patch", and it accepts files with a .block extension. Of course, it isn't tested yet.
-meowmeow55

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#593 2011-04-25 19:56:21

sparks
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

Non-librarians are welcome to add help with the library by working on new ideas - librarians are just there to keep the library updated  wink

What we need is an online program that can edit the contents of the Scratch smalltalk browser. The program would be able to give a user a list of blocks with checkbox options as to which blocks they want - then add the code for those blocks to the correct section of that copy of Scratch before providing a download link to it. No idea if that's possible. If a patches system is possible to easily use with normal Scratch that will be very cool, I've wanted to find a way to make Scratch blocks downloadable too for ages!


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#594 2011-04-25 20:41:58

Pecola1
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

sparks wrote:

Non-librarians are welcome to add help with the library by working on new ideas - librarians are just there to keep the library updated  wink

What we need is an online program that can edit the contents of the Scratch smalltalk browser. The program would be able to give a user a list of blocks with checkbox options as to which blocks they want - then add the code for those blocks to the correct section of that copy of Scratch before providing a download link to it. No idea if that's possible. If a patches system is possible to easily use with normal Scratch that will be very cool, I've wanted to find a way to make Scratch blocks downloadable too for ages!

YAY! BTW yall, I have been sick, so I just got a 2-3 hour nap. That felt good, I wonder if i can do my SAT tomorrow? I feel better. [/offTopicness] Let me tell you a problem we will run into and a way too solve it. By making a patch, you cannot simply add to a method, only overwrite it, so for the blockspec, we cannot do. UNLESS we make a dialog which would tell you, "This will over right any block you have made beside ones you download, is that okay?" How do we fix it, we simply make it so each block has its own blockspec, for example the say nothing would be:

sayNothingBlockspec
^( 'looks' ('say nothing' #- #sayNothing) )

And we could simply have a beginning patch for you to download which would have at the end

^ t1 , self obsoleteBlockSpecs, sayNothingBlockspec, hideCursorBlockspec, etc.

This it will also make all the blockspecs, but they will all be blank, until you download that block.


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#595 2011-04-25 21:29:00

Pecola1
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

I think it might not work well to use patches, you would have to re download the first one every time it is uploaded.


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#596 2011-04-25 22:16:06

meowmeow55
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

Pecola1 wrote:

I think it might not work well to use patches, you would have to re download the first one every time it is uploaded.

Unless we make it update automatically  wink


Yawn.

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#597 2011-04-25 22:55:27

Matty3414
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

Hey, i tried the Patcher/Import Black thing! I got it work/Open but i need a block thingy?? otherwise i cant do it!! Or you can tell me how to make 1 and i'll put the scratch blocks into a Patch thingy!


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#598 2011-04-25 23:51:47

scimonster
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

YourLocalBlockLib wrote:

I edited the set rotation style block, it was redundant.
~Pecola1

How?

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#599 2011-04-25 23:55:27

RocketDevs
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

Hi, Does the import block work if you change it for scratch?  (With scratch blocks)


Oh, and how did Panther make variables like $string$?

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#600 2011-04-25 23:56:22

scimonster
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Re: ITopic: Welcome to your local block library!

RocketDevs wrote:

Hi, Does the import block work if you change it for scratch?  (With scratch blocks)


Oh, and how did Panther make variables like $string$?

I don't know, this is a brand new feature that is untested.

EDIT: 600th post on this topic. Not as cool as when I got the 1111th post on the old, but still.  tongue

EDIT2: I added the library title to downloadable scratch blocks.

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