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#1 2011-04-20 21:29:24

ssss
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MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

Hi, i am developing a way to easily mod minecraft that just asks some questions, then mods the minecraft.jar (After backing it up!)

I was wondering if Panther would work for this?


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#2 2011-04-20 21:32:26

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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

ssss wrote:

Hi, i am developing a way to easily mod minecraft that just asks some questions, then mods the minecraft.jar (After backing it up!)

I was wondering if Panther would work for this?

Can we chat again on hamachi?

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#3 2011-04-21 04:40:52

LS97
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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

I'm not sparks, but I'll reply anyway.

Panther should work (in theory) with other file types, simply because it has file I/O and string manipulation blocks. Other than that though, it's a bit lacking. The speed of the program is also pretty bad...

But all that file I/O is near complete useless with a JAR file, since it's
a) compressed (a renamed zip)
b) written in byte form, not text.

The I/O blocks read the files using ASCII, therefore a byte with a value of 76 would show up as T (I think). Complete and utter cr -- ehm... rubbish.

However, the good news is, I think there's A ZIP compressor/decompresser in Squeak, so you could use the CYOB feature to decompress the JAR, make the changes you can to the text-formatted files in the JAR, 'recompile' the JAR.

That does limit you a bit on the images though... You could play around and see what else you can do.

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#4 2011-04-21 07:59:43

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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

LS97 wrote:

I'm not sparks, but I'll reply anyway.

Panther should work (in theory) with other file types, simply because it has file I/O and string manipulation blocks. Other than that though, it's a bit lacking. The speed of the program is also pretty bad...

But all that file I/O is near complete useless with a JAR file, since it's
a) compressed (a renamed zip)
b) written in byte form, not text.

The I/O blocks read the files using ASCII, therefore a byte with a value of 76 would show up as T (I think). Complete and utter cr -- ehm... rubbish.

However, the good news is, I think there's A ZIP compressor/decompresser in Squeak, so you could use the CYOB feature to decompress the JAR, make the changes you can to the text-formatted files in the JAR, 'recompile' the JAR.

That does limit you a bit on the images though... You could play around and see what else you can do.

Yeah,  Thanks for that!  But what do you mean limit on the images?  It just asks for user input most of the time


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#5 2011-04-21 08:20:26

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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

That seems like a cool idea. All I could to to minecraft would be mod a language 0.0


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#6 2011-04-21 08:24:05

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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

My_Stuff wrote:

That seems like a cool idea. All I could to to minecraft would be mod a language 0.0

lol.  Yeah, i was thinking of using BATCH, PYTHON and maybe a little bit of Panther... But using Panther only is possible, then that would be heaps better  wink


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#7 2011-04-21 08:26:36

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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

ssss wrote:

My_Stuff wrote:

That seems like a cool idea. All I could to to minecraft would be mod a language 0.0

lol.  Yeah, i was thinking of using BATCH, PYTHON and maybe a little bit of Panther... But using Panther only is possible, then that would be heaps better  wink

Yeah it would  smile , But even though this is sort of advanced, shouldn't this be in the misc. part of the forums?


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#8 2011-04-21 09:08:09

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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

My_Stuff wrote:

ssss wrote:

My_Stuff wrote:

That seems like a cool idea. All I could to to minecraft would be mod a language 0.0

lol.  Yeah, i was thinking of using BATCH, PYTHON and maybe a little bit of Panther... But using Panther only is possible, then that would be heaps better  wink

Yeah it would  smile , But even though this is sort of advanced, shouldn't this be in the misc. part of the forums?

Nope!  There already is one somewhere... This was just asking for an answer l wink


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#9 2011-04-21 09:10:01

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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

My_Stuff wrote:

ssss wrote:

My_Stuff wrote:

That seems like a cool idea. All I could to to minecraft would be mod a language 0.0

lol.  Yeah, i was thinking of using BATCH, PYTHON and maybe a little bit of Panther... But using Panther only is possible, then that would be heaps better  wink

Yeah it would  smile , But even though this is sort of advanced, shouldn't this be in the misc. part of the forums?

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#10 2011-04-21 12:01:12

LS97
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Registered: 2009-06-14
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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

ssss wrote:

LS97 wrote:

I'm not sparks, but I'll reply anyway.

Panther should work (in theory) with other file types, simply because it has file I/O and string manipulation blocks. Other than that though, it's a bit lacking. The speed of the program is also pretty bad...

But all that file I/O is near complete useless with a JAR file, since it's
a) compressed (a renamed zip)
b) written in byte form, not text.

The I/O blocks read the files using ASCII, therefore a byte with a value of 76 would show up as T (I think). Complete and utter cr -- ehm... rubbish.

However, the good news is, I think there's A ZIP compressor/decompresser in Squeak, so you could use the CYOB feature to decompress the JAR, make the changes you can to the text-formatted files in the JAR, 'recompile' the JAR.

That does limit you a bit on the images though... You could play around and see what else you can do.

Yeah,  Thanks for that!  But what do you mean limit on the images?  It just asks for user input most of the time

Oh.. well, I thought you might want to also be able to mod the color scheme, because in that case you want to be able to write an image to a file (or at least copy it from another place).

EDIT
Dammitt... I missed my 1500 posts!!!!!!

Last edited by LS97 (2011-04-21 12:01:57)

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#11 2011-04-21 21:15:41

ssss
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Registered: 2007-07-29
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Re: MC EasyMod Panther question (Sparks please look!)

LS97 wrote:

ssss wrote:

LS97 wrote:

I'm not sparks, but I'll reply anyway.

Panther should work (in theory) with other file types, simply because it has file I/O and string manipulation blocks. Other than that though, it's a bit lacking. The speed of the program is also pretty bad...

But all that file I/O is near complete useless with a JAR file, since it's
a) compressed (a renamed zip)
b) written in byte form, not text.

The I/O blocks read the files using ASCII, therefore a byte with a value of 76 would show up as T (I think). Complete and utter cr -- ehm... rubbish.

However, the good news is, I think there's A ZIP compressor/decompresser in Squeak, so you could use the CYOB feature to decompress the JAR, make the changes you can to the text-formatted files in the JAR, 'recompile' the JAR.

That does limit you a bit on the images though... You could play around and see what else you can do.

Yeah,  Thanks for that!  But what do you mean limit on the images?  It just asks for user input most of the time

Oh.. well, I thought you might want to also be able to mod the color scheme, because in that case you want to be able to write an image to a file (or at least copy it from another place).

EDIT
Dammitt... I missed my 1500 posts!!!!!!

Nah... Images don't matter to much, i just need file manipulation


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