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#1 2011-03-25 00:20:06

olivora
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3d 'sprites'

I understand Scratch is not capable of 3D. But what about 3D sprites. This would just turn the sprite into a 2 dimensional object with the ability to turn in every direction. Like what they did on the Super Nintendo.
eg:

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz320/olivora/mariocircuit.png?t=1301026506
This is what the sprite would look like in 2d.

But when rotated...
http://onlinemariogames.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/super-mario-kart-screenshot-002.png
The game appears to be 3D, but it's all just on a sprite.

I think this would be a good alternative to 3D.

Last edited by olivora (2011-03-26 22:40:04)


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#2 2011-03-25 00:26:07

Harakou
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

Scratch would still need 3D capabilities unless you imported each individual view. I agree that would be useful though.


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#3 2011-03-25 00:55:51

floppy_gunk
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

So what you basically want is the ability to 'skew' the sprite in a direction.

That would be very useful, and probably within the limitations of scratch.


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#4 2011-03-25 01:36:08

olivora
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

floppy_gunk wrote:

So what you basically want is the ability to 'skew' the sprite in a direction.

That would be very useful, and probably within the limitations of scratch.

Exactly


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#5 2011-03-25 11:03:46

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Re: 3d 'sprites'

a new scratch figured out how to do that but it is super slow


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#6 2011-03-25 12:47:36

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Re: 3d 'sprites'

puppetadventurer wrote:

a new scratch figured out how to do that but it is super slow

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Reverberated3/1644347


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#7 2011-03-25 19:30:30

olivora
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

puppetadventurer wrote:

puppetadventurer wrote:

a new scratch figured out how to do that but it is super slow

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Reverberated3/1644347

ya but with this you could tilt it in any direction you wanted.


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#8 2011-03-26 19:13:56

Venazard
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

I like this idea. maybe for scratch 2.0  big_smile

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#9 2011-03-26 21:27:33

Ghostboy96
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

This is already possible, and I've seen it in a few projects. But imagine all the scripting and trouble you would have to go through. It'd be much easier just to have Scratch automatically create the necessesary scripts and variables. All that you would have to do is import the costumes to be used.


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#10 2011-03-26 22:39:41

olivora
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

Ghostboy96 wrote:

This is already possible, and I've seen it in a few projects. But imagine all the scripting and trouble you would have to go through. It'd be much easier just to have Scratch automatically create the necessesary scripts and variables. All that you would have to do is import the costumes to be used.

Ya, technically this is possible, but it's extremely slow and requires really complicated math and scripting


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#11 2011-12-29 17:56:16

rdococ
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Re: 3d 'sprites'

Harakou wrote:

Scratch would still need 3D capabilities unless you imported each individual view. I agree that would be useful though.

I have an idea for Scratch 3D sprites. For a tilt you would omit pixels part of a row/column pattern, and shifting the now-seperated visible row/columns to a specific centre point, e.g. the centre horizontal line. If it has already got to only 1, 2, or 0 pixels, then it grows again, but if the tilt point is at or close the edge, in the other direction. This would create the illusion of 3D tilt. If something is already tilted in the other direction then the popup to place the line will let you choose with an image as if all of the tilts were undone.

Who likes my idea?

EDIT: I'm confused because there might be an error in the Scratch Forums. I clicked "by oliver" and it took me to a page with no text or textbox althrough the submit button and picture blicks were there... can someone help me? I got here by clicking the latest post link.

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