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#1 2011-02-26 20:33:50

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Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Teleportation (what else could I have been talking about?)- yet another reason why it wouldn't work.

Right now we are moving relative to the Earth's rotational pole at different speeds, depending on your latitude.  For example I am hurtling at 800 miles per hour relative to Earth's rotational pole, or at the equator you'd move over 1000 miles per hour.  In the center of Antarctica you are almost moving 0 miles per hour.  If teleportation were possible and you teleported from the equator to the center of Antarctica, the resulting G forces of moving 1000 miles per hour to suddenly almost 0 miles per hour would either rip you to shreds or fling you miles into the sky or any direction.

Just thought I'd point this out.  No other reason.  Discuss other reasons it doesn't work and such.

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#2 2011-02-26 20:35:24

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

that would hurt 0_o and also, you would need a reciever to go to at the other end yes? then you'd already be there  tongue


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#3 2011-02-26 20:38:07

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

I am teleporting!
I moved 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 inches in a nanosecond!


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#4 2011-02-26 20:38:11

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

that would hurt 0_o and also, you would need a reciever to go to at the other end yes? then you'd already be there  tongue

You'd be there, but how do you make your starting velocity into a direct proportion to what the velocity of what the receiver's speed is?  You can't.

Of course the whole concept is theoretically impossible, but if it were you can see it wouldn't be practical at all.

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#5 2011-02-26 20:39:39

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

I'd already knew teleporting would not be possible.


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#6 2011-02-27 07:45:30

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Hmm... what if you created a teleportation device that slowed down your molecules bit by bit so you'd gradually slow down. But that wouldn't be instant transportation, and therefore not teleportation.

Then how come Akuma can do it? Wait... if you were to only teleport a few meters(like Akuma), it would be possible


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#7 2011-02-27 08:01:45

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

That's true.

People dream of teleporting into space, but with how fast you're traveling through the atmosphere, you'd eventually burn up.
Also if you try teleporting into, say, a different country, with the earth spinning at different speeds at different spots, you may end up either dead, or you'll fly forward a bit, due to the fact that you wentt 100mph to lower in such a fast time.

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#8 2011-02-27 08:15:54

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

ihaveamac wrote:

I am teleporting!
I moved 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 inches in a nanosecond!

Whoa! Me too!

We're bending time and space, and if this keeps up, the entire universe will eventually explode, and then

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#9 2011-02-27 08:30:35

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

helltank wrote:

Hmm... what if you created a teleportation device that slowed down your molecules bit by bit so you'd gradually slow down. But that wouldn't be instant transportation, and therefore not teleportation.

Then how come Akuma can do it? Wait... if you were to only teleport a few meters(like Akuma), it would be possible

It's possible if you travel on the same latitude, or yes, if you travel a very small distance like a few meters.

Of course assuming you have the means of teleporting at all.

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#10 2011-02-27 09:34:15

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Actually, you are quite wrong.

First off, you are right in that, at the equator, a person is technically moving 1000 miles an hour. And at the pole, it is practically nothing. But that is relative to the center of the earth. If you made your reference point the sun for example, both are moving at thousands of miles per hours... IF you went to the galaxy, which the sun goes around while the earth goes around the sun while we go around the earth, we go much, much faster. And then if you throw in the universe, things just get crazy. Theres alot more to that story.

So, yes, that is true. It's bearing on teleportation, however, is absolutly none.True teleportaion would involve a worm-hole, and the bending of the 3rd dimension by the fifth to create a jump point into a new place. Think about it this way. Imagine an ant walking in a straightline on a newspaper. In you curled the newspaper in such a way, the ant will travel in 3 dimensions, while still following the "1-dimensional" path. By curling it, you actually 'teleporting" it back to the start of the line, which it could not have done if it was true one dimensional.

The same theory applies to the 4th dimension, time. We can bend it using the higher dimensions to teleport ourselves.

See? It is possible, in theory.

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#11 2011-02-27 09:38:04

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

TheSaint wrote:

Actually, you are quite wrong.

First off, you are right in that, at the equator, a person is technically moving 1000 miles an hour. And at the pole, it is practically nothing. But that is relative to the center of the earth. If you made your reference point the sun for example, both are moving at thousands of miles per hours... IF you went to the galaxy, which the sun goes around while the earth goes around the sun while we go around the earth, we go much, much faster. And then if you throw in the universe, things just get crazy. Theres alot more to that story.

So, yes, that is true. It's bearing on teleportation, however, is absolutly none.True teleportaion would involve a worm-hole, and the bending of the 3rd dimension by the fifth to create a jump point into a new place. Think about it this way. Imagine an ant walking in a straightline on a newspaper. In you curled the newspaper in such a way, the ant will travel in 3 dimensions, while still following the "1-dimensional" path. By curling it, you actually 'teleporting" it back to the start of the line, which it could not have done if it was true one dimensional.

The same theory applies to the 4th dimension, time. We can bend it using the higher dimensions to teleport ourselves.

See? It is possible, in theory.

You don't need to take into account any relativity to the sun or any other point other than Earth because the receiver would be on Earth as well, and therefore moving relatively the same speed relative to ol' Sol.  It's the rotation of Earth that causes the discrepancy.

As for utilizing higher dimensions, find a way to travel using the fifth dimension and then I'll agree.

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#12 2011-03-01 12:11:21

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Kileymeister wrote:

Teleportation (what else could I have been talking about?)- yet another reason why it wouldn't work.

Right now we are moving relative to the Earth's rotational pole at different speeds, depending on your latitude.  For example I am hurtling at 800 miles per hour relative to Earth's rotational pole, or at the equator you'd move over 1000 miles per hour.  In the center of Antarctica you are almost moving 0 miles per hour.  If teleportation were possible and you teleported from the equator to the center of Antarctica, the resulting G forces of moving 1000 miles per hour to suddenly almost 0 miles per hour would either rip you to shreds or fling you miles into the sky or any direction.

Just thought I'd point this out.  No other reason.  Discuss other reasons it doesn't work and such.

Would that really make a difference since in both frames of reference, you feel as if you're moving none?

But saying science won't find a way to counteract this is dumb


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#13 2011-03-01 16:29:21

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What if you flung the teleport at you at the exact speed to not fling you?


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#14 2011-03-01 20:14:29

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

I can teleport from here to my room... by walking...

I honestly think teleporting will just make more fat people (like me) in this world...


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#15 2011-03-01 20:33:13

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Hmm. Now, time travel is more intresting and complex, not to mention more crazy and impossible.


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#16 2011-03-01 20:34:46

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Nexstudent wrote:

I can teleport from here to my room... by walking...

I honestly think teleporting will just make more fat people (like me) in this world...

Never knew you were...


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#17 2011-03-01 20:36:05

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

geohendan wrote:

Hmm. Now, time travel is more intresting and complex, not to mention more crazy and impossible.

Ah, time travel also poses an interesting question.  With Earth flying thousands of miles around the sun, if you time travel 6 months into the future you'd end up in space, because the point on Earth where you left from would be halfway around the sun by then, wouldn't you?

Earth's revolution around the sun makes no difference in teleportation because every point on Earth is affected the same way by it's revolution.

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#18 2011-03-01 20:37:45

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Kileymeister wrote:

geohendan wrote:

Hmm. Now, time travel is more intresting and complex, not to mention more crazy and impossible.

Ah, time travel also poses an interesting question.  With Earth flying thousands of miles around the sun, if you time travel 6 months into the future you'd end up in space, because the point where you left from would be halfway around the sun by then, wouldn't you?

Earth's revolution around the sun makes no difference in teleportation because every point on Earth is affected the same way by it's revolution.

Mm-hm.  smile


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#19 2011-03-01 21:29:59

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That's a really good point...


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#20 2011-03-02 07:47:54

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

geohendan wrote:

Hmm. Now, time travel is more intresting and complex, not to mention more crazy and impossible.

Crazy and Impossible?

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Creativity Course Teacher:Alright class, let's see what you've created in 5 minutes with the leaf, stick and strip of plastic I gave you. Patrick, what have you created?

Patrick:A bazooka with heat seeking missles and a lock on system.

CCT:Um... what about you, Jacelyn?

Jacelyn:A device to turn air into electricity.

CCT:=.=' What about you, Helltank[not real name]?

Me:A time travel machine. With air conditioning, of course.

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Of course, there's no way we could ever time travel. I completely agree, geohenden.  smile

@Kileymeister:What I'm worried about is that you'd time travel 1000000 years into the future at the summit of Mount Everest or something, then find the erosion has made Everest shorter by 10 meters, and you drop 10 meters. Or even worse, it has somehow GROWN, and you're stuck 10 meters from the summit, trapped inside the unyeilding rock forever.


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#21 2011-03-03 13:48:33

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Kileymeister wrote:

geohendan wrote:

Hmm. Now, time travel is more intresting and complex, not to mention more crazy and impossible.

Ah, time travel also poses an interesting question.  With Earth flying thousands of miles around the sun, if you time travel 6 months into the future you'd end up in space, because the point on Earth where you left from would be halfway around the sun by then, wouldn't you?

Earth's revolution around the sun makes no difference in teleportation because every point on Earth is affected the same way by it's revolution.

Connection points between time machines or a time machine in different points in time could be the way to solve this (of course you could not go back any farther than the first functional time machine's creation)


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#22 2011-03-03 15:35:06

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Andres-Vander wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

geohendan wrote:

Hmm. Now, time travel is more intresting and complex, not to mention more crazy and impossible.

Ah, time travel also poses an interesting question.  With Earth flying thousands of miles around the sun, if you time travel 6 months into the future you'd end up in space, because the point on Earth where you left from would be halfway around the sun by then, wouldn't you?

Earth's revolution around the sun makes no difference in teleportation because every point on Earth is affected the same way by it's revolution.

Connection points between time machines or a time machine in different points in time could be the way to solve this (of course you could not go back any farther than the first functional time machine's creation)

Good point.

I'll get to work building the first receiver to maximize the distance into the past we can travel.

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#23 2011-03-03 16:00:48

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

of course, you are assuming to teleport you need to stay in a single form

What if, you get transfered there over something like a data stream (where your body's makeup is recorded, and then sent to the other end, then you are rebuilt there)

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#24 2011-03-03 16:03:41

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

Kileymeister wrote:

geohendan wrote:

Hmm. Now, time travel is more intresting and complex, not to mention more crazy and impossible.

Ah, time travel also poses an interesting question.  With Earth flying thousands of miles around the sun, if you time travel 6 months into the future you'd end up in space, because the point on Earth where you left from would be halfway around the sun by then, wouldn't you?

Earth's revolution around the sun makes no difference in teleportation because every point on Earth is affected the same way by it's revolution.

I always had the idea that you would be able to punch in a really long code that would tell the time machine where to go.

So if you punched in a really long code for the top of Mount Everest, then it would take you back in time, AND to the top of Mount Everest, even if the Earth is halfway around the sun, or if Mount Everest moved/grew.

Same with the teleporter, you could punch in a code that would teleport you anywhere you wanted.

Although, it'll take so much time for scientists to program the time machine/teleporter to do that, that it'll be the end of the world (NOT 2012) before they're even close to finishing it.  hmm

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#25 2011-03-03 16:04:30

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Re: Aha! I knew it'd never work.

deatheater wrote:

of course, you are assuming to teleport you need to stay in a single form

What if, you get transfered there over something like a data stream (where your body's makeup is recorded, and then sent to the other end, then you are rebuilt there)

This is assuming any of it works, which to my knowledge none of it does yet (I said yet, no arguments that it could be done).  What if you are rebuilt wrong as a liquid or something, or a single base of DNA in a single cell is changed, giving you cancer. My, there are a ton of ways to be destroyed during teleportation, aren't there?

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