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#1 2011-02-26 10:25:50

Purika
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Version 2.0 Costumising

Hey everybody!

I was wondering if the 2.0 will still be quite simple to costumise since it's written is Flash, not Squeak?

Thanks, Purika

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#2 2011-02-26 10:44:05

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

Purika wrote:

Hey everybody!

I was wondering if the 2.0 will still be quite simple to costumise since it's written is Flash, not Squeak?

Thanks, Purika

Costumise? Do you mean customise? E.g. Mod?

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#3 2011-02-26 14:56:36

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

markyparky56 wrote:

Purika wrote:

Hey everybody!

I was wondering if the 2.0 will still be quite simple to costumise since it's written is Flash, not Squeak?

Thanks, Purika

Costumise? Do you mean customise? E.g. Mod?

Yeah!  big_smile

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#4 2011-02-26 15:23:38

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

If you know flash/AS3!  big_smile  (Which I don't.  sad )

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#5 2011-02-26 15:41:45

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

scimonster wrote:

If you know flash/AS3!  big_smile  (Which I don't.  sad )

Neither do I.  sad  I feel sorry for you scimonster. You were one of the biggest modifiers!  sad

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#6 2011-02-26 19:58:13

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

Purika wrote:

Hey everybody!

I was wondering if the 2.0 will still be quite simple to costumise since it's written is Flash, not Squeak?

Thanks, Purika

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there WILL be a downloadable version. Which means there most likely WILL be the System Browser. When it comes out there will be a crowd of mods coming out, LOL! XD XD XD XD XD XD DX XD XD XD

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#7 2011-02-26 20:31:04

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

Pecola1 wrote:

Purika wrote:

Hey everybody!

I was wondering if the 2.0 will still be quite simple to costumise since it's written is Flash, not Squeak?

Thanks, Purika

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there WILL be a downloadable version. Which means there most likely WILL be the System Browser. When it comes out there will be a crowd of mods coming out, LOL! XD XD XD XD XD XD DX XD XD XD

The System Browser is built into Squeak, which is why you could use it on Scratch. There's not going to be any such thing in Scratch 2.0, I'm afraid.

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#8 2011-02-26 20:34:58

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

fullmoon wrote:

Pecola1 wrote:

Purika wrote:

Hey everybody!

I was wondering if the 2.0 will still be quite simple to costumise since it's written is Flash, not Squeak?

Thanks, Purika

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there WILL be a downloadable version. Which means there most likely WILL be the System Browser. When it comes out there will be a crowd of mods coming out, LOL! XD XD XD XD XD XD DX XD XD XD

The System Browser is built into Squeak, which is why you could use it on Scratch. There's not going to be any such thing in Scratch 2.0, I'm afraid.

however, it is possible to create an error in flash - thus get into the source code (or you could just open it with a flash editing program  tongue

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#9 2011-02-26 20:51:01

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

ssss wrote:

fullmoon wrote:

Pecola1 wrote:


Correct me if I'm wrong, but there WILL be a downloadable version. Which means there most likely WILL be the System Browser. When it comes out there will be a crowd of mods coming out, LOL! XD XD XD XD XD XD DX XD XD XD

The System Browser is built into Squeak, which is why you could use it on Scratch. There's not going to be any such thing in Scratch 2.0, I'm afraid.

however, it is possible to create an error in flash - thus get into the source code (or you could just open it with a flash editing program  tongue

I don't think Experimental Viewer uses the system browser, it uses flash coding.

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#10 2011-02-26 21:37:43

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

ssss wrote:

fullmoon wrote:

Pecola1 wrote:


Correct me if I'm wrong, but there WILL be a downloadable version. Which means there most likely WILL be the System Browser. When it comes out there will be a crowd of mods coming out, LOL! XD XD XD XD XD XD DX XD XD XD

The System Browser is built into Squeak, which is why you could use it on Scratch. There's not going to be any such thing in Scratch 2.0, I'm afraid.

however, it is possible to create an error in flash - thus get into the source code (or you could just open it with a flash editing program  tongue

Creating an error in Flash doesn't let you modify the source code while it's running -- there's really nothing that lets you do that.

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#11 2011-02-27 20:10:32

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

Hmm... maybe there will be some sort of equivalent of the shift-click r method in the new version, thus getting you into the coding? We would need to learn flash though...  sad

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#12 2011-02-28 11:20:56

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

celloguy123 wrote:

Hmm... maybe there will be some sort of equivalent of the shift-click r method in the new version, thus getting you into the coding? We would need to learn flash though...  sad

Yeah...

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#13 2011-02-28 11:36:24

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

we should suggest that

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#14 2011-02-28 12:39:46

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

celloguy123 wrote:

Hmm... maybe there will be some sort of equivalent of the shift-click r method in the new version, thus getting you into the coding? We would need to learn flash though...  sad

It doesn't work like that.
Flash, unlike Squeak, is compiled beforehand (well, sort of).
Squeak needs a VM (which is compiled to interpret the code. This is why Squeak is so slow, it needs to interpret it and in some way compile on the spot!

Not compiling on the spot, however, has a disadvantage (which is an advantage for most companies, however). You cannot see the source code and edit it on the spot, unless you have two elements: the actual source and a compiler which will compile that source for you.

So basically, if the ST doesn't release a source code, you're not going to mod anything. And if you don't have Flash or don't know AS3, you're not going to mod anything either. Simple  smile

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#15 2011-02-28 12:56:53

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

LS97 wrote:

celloguy123 wrote:

Hmm... maybe there will be some sort of equivalent of the shift-click r method in the new version, thus getting you into the coding? We would need to learn flash though...  sad

It doesn't work like that.
Flash, unlike Squeak, is compiled beforehand (well, sort of).
Squeak needs a VM (which is compiled to interpret the code. This is why Squeak is so slow, it needs to interpret it and in some way compile on the spot!

Not compiling on the spot, however, has a disadvantage (which is an advantage for most companies, however). You cannot see the source code and edit it on the spot, unless you have two elements: the actual source and a compiler which will compile that source for you.

So basically, if the ST doesn't release a source code, you're not going to mod anything. And if you don't have Flash or don't know AS3, you're not going to mod anything either. Simple  smile

They will release the source code. I'm 99.99% sure.

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#16 2011-02-28 14:29:09

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

scimonster wrote:

LS97 wrote:

celloguy123 wrote:

Hmm... maybe there will be some sort of equivalent of the shift-click r method in the new version, thus getting you into the coding? We would need to learn flash though...  sad

It doesn't work like that.
Flash, unlike Squeak, is compiled beforehand (well, sort of).
Squeak needs a VM (which is compiled to interpret the code. This is why Squeak is so slow, it needs to interpret it and in some way compile on the spot!

Not compiling on the spot, however, has a disadvantage (which is an advantage for most companies, however). You cannot see the source code and edit it on the spot, unless you have two elements: the actual source and a compiler which will compile that source for you.

So basically, if the ST doesn't release a source code, you're not going to mod anything. And if you don't have Flash or don't know AS3, you're not going to mod anything either. Simple  smile

They will release the source code. I'm 99.99% sure.

They did it with the other versions, no reason to buck the trend now.

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#17 2011-02-28 16:57:05

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

markyparky56 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

LS97 wrote:


It doesn't work like that.
Flash, unlike Squeak, is compiled beforehand (well, sort of).
Squeak needs a VM (which is compiled to interpret the code. This is why Squeak is so slow, it needs to interpret it and in some way compile on the spot!

Not compiling on the spot, however, has a disadvantage (which is an advantage for most companies, however). You cannot see the source code and edit it on the spot, unless you have two elements: the actual source and a compiler which will compile that source for you.

So basically, if the ST doesn't release a source code, you're not going to mod anything. And if you don't have Flash or don't know AS3, you're not going to mod anything either. Simple  smile

They will release the source code. I'm 99.99% sure.

They did it with the other versions, no reason to buck the trend now.

Yeah, but this is Flash, not Squeak.

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#18 2011-03-01 02:53:32

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

Purika wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

scimonster wrote:


They will release the source code. I'm 99.99% sure.

They did it with the other versions, no reason to buck the trend now.

Yeah, but this is Flash, not Squeak.

So?

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#19 2011-03-01 11:02:05

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

Well, I don't know Flash...

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#20 2011-03-02 23:08:21

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Re: Version 2.0 Costumising

You and me both...

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