Scratch

mol17 · 2008-09-12 21:55:05

Whats the difference beetween flash and scratch?Is one easier, are they different styles of programming?Is one better? Well i have no idea so im hoping someone will tell me!!!> yikes

keroro645 · 2008-09-12 22:03:30

Scratch is like a baby flash.In scratch their are a variety of blocks.In flash there are a variety of words that you type to script.

archmage · 2008-09-12 22:41:34

mol17 wrote:
Whats the difference beetween flash and scratch?Is one easier, are they different styles of programming?Is one better? Well i have no idea so im hoping someone will tell me!!!>

Flash is a program used to create flash animations and programs and scratch is a simple program builder designed for beginners. Scratch is free, while flash is used by professionals and costs a lot.

Flash, unlike scratch uses a text based language.

//This is an example
onEnterFrame=function(){
trace("This will output text in a little window");
}

Capability wise, Flash is better than scratch by far. Most programming languages are much more capable than scratch but lack scratch's user friendliness.

This thread has instructions on getting a free trial version of flash (good for 30 days) and it also has a small tutorial and links to other tutorials.

http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=6373

mol17 · 2008-09-12 23:32:41

Thanks archmage, do you suggest i get flash? smile

keroro645 · 2008-09-12 23:41:00

I would like flash right now but I think it would be hard for me.

terminator355 · 2008-09-13 00:13:36

keroro645 wrote:
I would like flash right now but I think it would be hard for me.

At first I didn't think I could learn AS2/3 but after like a week I could program pretty good. I can make an AI, movement, health bar, items, coins, battling.

Heres the script for good movement (AS2):

Code:

onClipEvent (load) {
    vx = 0;
    vy = 0;
    friction = 0.87;
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
    vx *= friction;
    vy *= friction;
    this._x += vx;
    this._y += vy;
    if (Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
        vx += 5;
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT)) {
        vx -= 5;
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.DOWN)) {
        vy += 5;
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.UP)) {
        vy -= 5;
    }
}

terminator355 · 2008-09-13 00:50:44

mol17, i like your signature

terminator355 · 2008-09-13 11:24:28

or for an AI that moves to your char :

Code:

 
\\give the enemy clip an instance of "enemy"
\\give the your clip an instance of "char"
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
    ux = _root.char._x;
    uy = _root.char._y;
    ex = this._x;
    ey = this._y;
    if (ex>ux+1) {
        _x -= 5;
    }
    if (ex<ux-1) {
        _x += 5;
    }
    if (ey>uy+1) {
        _y -= 5;
    }
    if (ey<uy-1) {
        _y += 5;
    }
    
}

terminator355 · 2008-09-13 15:55:09

or a platformer game: make a ground, call it ground, make water call it water (by call it I mean give it an instance of"whatever follows)

Code:

onClipEvent (load) {
    var grav:Number = 0;
    var run:Number = 5;
    var wlk:Number = 2.5;
    var speed:Number = run;
    var jumpHeight:Number = 12;
    var dbl:Number = 10;
    var tri:Number = 10;
    var djump:Boolean = false;
    var tjump:Boolean = false;
    var thro:Boolean = false;
    var slow:Number = .7;
    var slowspd:Number = speed/2;
    var setspeed:Number = speed;
    var scale:Number = _xscale;
    var ex:Number = 5;
    var vx:Number = 0;
    var friction:Number = 0.85;
    this.gotoAndStop(1);
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
    vx *= friction;
    _x += vx;
    grav++;
    _y += grav;
    if (Key.isDown(65)) {
        setspeed = wlk;
    } else {
        setspeed = run;
    }
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y, true)) {
        djump = false;
        tjump = false;
        _y--;
        grav = 0;
    }
    if (_root.water.hitTest(_x, _y, true)) {
        grav *= slow*1.25;
        speed = slowspd;
    } else {
        speed = setspeed;
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
        vx += speed;
        _xscale = scale;
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(1);
        } else {
            if (djump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(2);
            } else if (tjump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(4);
            } else {
                this.gotoAndStop(5);
            }
        }
    } else if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT)) {
        vx -= speed;
        _xscale = -scale;
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(1);
        } else {
            if (djump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(2);
            } else if (tjump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(4);
            } else {
                this.gotoAndStop(5);
            }
        }
    } else {
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true) && !Key.isDown(68) && !Key.isDown(83)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(3);
        }
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.SPACE)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(8);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.TAB)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(7);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.SHIFT)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(6);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.UP) && _root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
        grav = -jumpHeight;
        _y -= 4;
        this.gotoAndStop(2);
    } else if (Key.isDown(Key.UP) && djump == false && grav>0 && tjump == false) {
        grav = -dbl;
        djump = true;
        this.gotoAndStop(4);
    } else if (Key.isDown(68) && tjump == false && grav>1) {
        grav = -tri;
        tjump = true;
        this.gotoAndStop(5);
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-(_height/6), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-_height, true)) {
        _x -= speed;
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-(_height/6), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-_height, true)) {
        _x += speed;
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y-_height-15, true)) {
        grav = 1;
    }
}

terminator355 · 2008-09-14 11:08:38

anybody like it?

terminator355 · 2008-09-14 11:54:52

please no one does?

sad

so I took all the time to type that for nothing?

sad (I wish there was a sadder smily!)

Bobby500 · 2008-09-14 15:14:07

I like it.

Bluestribute · 2008-09-14 15:20:12

terminator355 wrote:
please no one does?

so I took all the time to type that for nothing?

(I wish there was a sadder smily!)

I don't get the this.gotoAndStop(2) parts… though i like the platformer tutorial

archmage · 2008-09-14 17:34:46

terminator355 wrote:

or a platformer game: make a ground, call it ground, make water call it water (by call it I mean give it an instance of"whatever follows)

Code:

onClipEvent (load) {
    var grav:Number = 0;
    var run:Number = 5;
    var wlk:Number = 2.5;
    var speed:Number = run;
    var jumpHeight:Number = 12;
    var dbl:Number = 10;
    var tri:Number = 10;
    var djump:Boolean = false;
    var tjump:Boolean = false;
    var thro:Boolean = false;
    var slow:Number = .7;
    var slowspd:Number = speed/2;
    var setspeed:Number = speed;
    var scale:Number = _xscale;
    var ex:Number = 5;
    var vx:Number = 0;
    var friction:Number = 0.85;
    this.gotoAndStop(1);
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
    vx *= friction;
    _x += vx;
    grav++;
    _y += grav;
    if (Key.isDown(65)) {
        setspeed = wlk;
    } else {
        setspeed = run;
    }
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y, true)) {
        djump = false;
        tjump = false;
        _y--;
        grav = 0;
    }
    if (_root.water.hitTest(_x, _y, true)) {
        grav *= slow*1.25;
        speed = slowspd;
    } else {
        speed = setspeed;
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
        vx += speed;
        _xscale = scale;
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(1);
        } else {
            if (djump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(2);
            } else if (tjump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(4);
            } else {
                this.gotoAndStop(5);
            }
        }
    } else if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT)) {
        vx -= speed;
        _xscale = -scale;
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(1);
        } else {
            if (djump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(2);
            } else if (tjump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(4);
            } else {
                this.gotoAndStop(5);
            }
        }
    } else {
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true) && !Key.isDown(68) && !Key.isDown(83)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(3);
        }
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.SPACE)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(8);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.TAB)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(7);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.SHIFT)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(6);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.UP) && _root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
        grav = -jumpHeight;
        _y -= 4;
        this.gotoAndStop(2);
    } else if (Key.isDown(Key.UP) && djump == false && grav>0 && tjump == false) {
        grav = -dbl;
        djump = true;
        this.gotoAndStop(4);
    } else if (Key.isDown(68) && tjump == false && grav>1) {
        grav = -tri;
        tjump = true;
        this.gotoAndStop(5);
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-(_height/6), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-_height, true)) {
        _x -= speed;
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-(_height/6), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-_height, true)) {
        _x += speed;
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y-_height-15, true)) {
        grav = 1;
    }
}

This is nice but it doesn't look like you coded it. I can tell what the code does by looking at it and it has some very specific features such as double jumping and triple jumping that I don't really think are nessary for basic platformers. Here is another script that I coded that is more general purpose.

Code:

//Coded by Archmage-flash
onClipEvent (load) {
    var xVelocity:Number = 0;
    var yVelocity:Number = 0;
    var maxVelocity:Number = 100;
    var jumpPower:Number = 15;
    var runSpeed:Number = 6;
    var drag:Number = 0.7;
    //This variable controls the hitTest range for the walls
    //Don't set the wallHits variable to high, causes errors with the horzzontal wall hitTesting
    var wallHits:Number = _height/6;
    //This variable controls the top speed at which the MC can fall
    var maxFall:Number = 20;
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
    //Left and right movement with the keys
    if (Math.abs(xVelocity)<=MaxVelocity) {
        if (Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
            xVelocity += runSpeed;
            _xscale = 100;
        }
        if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT)) {
            xVelocity -= runSpeed;
            _xscale = -100;
        }
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+(_height/2), true)) {
        yVelocity = -1;
        if (Key.isDown(Key.SPACE)) {
            yVelocity = -jumpPower;
        }
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y-(_height/2), true)) {
        _y++;
        if (yVelocity<0) {
            yVelocity = 3;
        }
    }
    if (yVelocity<maxFall) {
        yVelocity++;
    }
    //decrease the xVelocity variable and alter x and y position by the velocity variables            
    xVelocity *= drag;
    _y += yVelocity;
    _x += xVelocity;
    //raise the MC above the ground
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+(_height/2)-1, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+wallHits, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y-wallHits, true)) {
        _y--;
    }
    //this prevents the MC from going though walls horizontally
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y+wallHits, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y-wallHits, true)) {
        _x--;
        xVelocity = 0;
    }
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y+wallHits, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y-wallHits, true)) {
        _x++;
        xVelocity = 0;
    }
    //code for changing the player's stance
    if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT) || Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
        gotoAndStop(1);
    } else {
        gotoAndStop(3);
    }
    if (!_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+(_height/2)+jumpPower, true)) {
        gotoAndStop(2);
    }
}

I used this script to make a flash version of archknight's adventure.

Last edited by archmage (2008-09-14 17:36:26)

dingdong · 2008-09-14 17:41:03

scratch handles a pitiful 10 sprites, flash handles a whopping 50 sprites (or more, dunno)!

archmage · 2008-09-14 17:43:36

dingdong wrote:
scratch handles a pitiful 10 sprites, flash handles a whopping 50 sprites (or more, dunno)!

I think everyone realizes that scratch wasn't built for power. It's really not big of a deal because scratch was made to be a program for beginners and beginners usually don't need a lot of power.

terminator355 · 2008-09-14 22:00:26

archmage wrote:

terminator355 wrote:

or a platformer game: make a ground, call it ground, make water call it water (by call it I mean give it an instance of"whatever follows)

Code:

onClipEvent (load) {
    var grav:Number = 0;
    var run:Number = 5;
    var wlk:Number = 2.5;
    var speed:Number = run;
    var jumpHeight:Number = 12;
    var dbl:Number = 10;
    var tri:Number = 10;
    var djump:Boolean = false;
    var tjump:Boolean = false;
    var thro:Boolean = false;
    var slow:Number = .7;
    var slowspd:Number = speed/2;
    var setspeed:Number = speed;
    var scale:Number = _xscale;
    var ex:Number = 5;
    var vx:Number = 0;
    var friction:Number = 0.85;
    this.gotoAndStop(1);
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
    vx *= friction;
    _x += vx;
    grav++;
    _y += grav;
    if (Key.isDown(65)) {
        setspeed = wlk;
    } else {
        setspeed = run;
    }
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y, true)) {
        djump = false;
        tjump = false;
        _y--;
        grav = 0;
    }
    if (_root.water.hitTest(_x, _y, true)) {
        grav *= slow*1.25;
        speed = slowspd;
    } else {
        speed = setspeed;
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
        vx += speed;
        _xscale = scale;
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(1);
        } else {
            if (djump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(2);
            } else if (tjump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(4);
            } else {
                this.gotoAndStop(5);
            }
        }
    } else if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT)) {
        vx -= speed;
        _xscale = -scale;
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(1);
        } else {
            if (djump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(2);
            } else if (tjump == false) {
                this.gotoAndStop(4);
            } else {
                this.gotoAndStop(5);
            }
        }
    } else {
        if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true) && !Key.isDown(68) && !Key.isDown(83)) {
            this.gotoAndStop(3);
        }
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.SPACE)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(8);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.TAB)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(7);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.SHIFT)) {
        this.gotoAndStop(6);
    }
    if (Key.isDown(Key.UP) && _root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+3, true)) {
        grav = -jumpHeight;
        _y -= 4;
        this.gotoAndStop(2);
    } else if (Key.isDown(Key.UP) && djump == false && grav>0 && tjump == false) {
        grav = -dbl;
        djump = true;
        this.gotoAndStop(4);
    } else if (Key.isDown(68) && tjump == false && grav>1) {
        grav = -tri;
        tjump = true;
        this.gotoAndStop(5);
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-(_height/6), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2)+ex, _y-_height, true)) {
        _x -= speed;
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-(_height/6), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2)-ex, _y-_height, true)) {
        _x += speed;
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y-_height-15, true)) {
        grav = 1;
    }
}

This is nice but it doesn't look like you coded it. I can tell what the code does by looking at it and it has some very specific features such as double jumping and triple jumping that I don't really think are nessary for basic platformers. Here is another script that I coded that is more general purpose.

Code:

//Coded by Archmage-flash
onClipEvent (load) {
    var xVelocity:Number = 0;
    var yVelocity:Number = 0;
    var maxVelocity:Number = 100;
    var jumpPower:Number = 15;
    var runSpeed:Number = 6;
    var drag:Number = 0.7;
    //This variable controls the hitTest range for the walls
    //Don't set the wallHits variable to high, causes errors with the horzzontal wall hitTesting
    var wallHits:Number = _height/6;
    //This variable controls the top speed at which the MC can fall
    var maxFall:Number = 20;
}
onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
    //Left and right movement with the keys
    if (Math.abs(xVelocity)<=MaxVelocity) {
        if (Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
            xVelocity += runSpeed;
            _xscale = 100;
        }
        if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT)) {
            xVelocity -= runSpeed;
            _xscale = -100;
        }
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+(_height/2), true)) {
        yVelocity = -1;
        if (Key.isDown(Key.SPACE)) {
            yVelocity = -jumpPower;
        }
    }
    if (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y-(_height/2), true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y-(_height/2), true)) {
        _y++;
        if (yVelocity<0) {
            yVelocity = 3;
        }
    }
    if (yVelocity<maxFall) {
        yVelocity++;
    }
    //decrease the xVelocity variable and alter x and y position by the velocity variables            
    xVelocity *= drag;
    _y += yVelocity;
    _x += xVelocity;
    //raise the MC above the ground
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+(_height/2)-1, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+wallHits, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y-wallHits, true)) {
        _y--;
    }
    //this prevents the MC from going though walls horizontally
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y+wallHits, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x+(_width/2), _y-wallHits, true)) {
        _x--;
        xVelocity = 0;
    }
    while (_root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y+wallHits, true) || _root.ground.hitTest(_x-(_width/2), _y-wallHits, true)) {
        _x++;
        xVelocity = 0;
    }
    //code for changing the player's stance
    if (Key.isDown(Key.LEFT) || Key.isDown(Key.RIGHT)) {
        gotoAndStop(1);
    } else {
        gotoAndStop(3);
    }
    if (!_root.ground.hitTest(_x, _y+(_height/2)+jumpPower, true)) {
        gotoAndStop(2);
    }
}

I used this script to make a flash version of archknight's adventure.

cool, upload it to http://www.spamtheweb.com or http://www.flashgamelicense.com

and post the link here...

also in "show and tell look at the topic "My Flash Game" to see what I used it for...

awesome though, I want to see it tongue

Last edited by terminator355 (2008-09-14 22:01:57)

terminator355 · 2008-09-14 22:03:38

Bluestribute wrote:
terminator355 wrote:
please no one does?

so I took all the time to type that for nothing?

(I wish there was a sadder smily!)
I don't get the this.gotoAndStop(2) parts… though i like the platformer tutorial

it means that you goto the frame on the timeline inside that movie clip

Bluestribute · 2008-09-14 22:05:58

terminator355 wrote:
Bluestribute wrote:
terminator355 wrote:
please no one does?

so I took all the time to type that for nothing?

(I wish there was a sadder smily!)
I don't get the this.gotoAndStop(2) parts… though i like the platformer tutorial
it means that you goto the frame on the timeline inside that movie clip

Well, I know that. But I saw Archmage's .fla tutorial of it, and his MC didn't have any timeline clips (or maybe one), yet he had the same thing

mol17 · 2008-09-14 23:18:56

umm bluestribute, your confusing me.just tell me WICH ONES BETTER!!!hufff huff, sorry, i im kinda out of it today. lol > sad

Bluestribute · 2008-09-14 23:45:05

mol17 wrote:
umm bluestribute, your confusing me.just tell me WICH ONES BETTER!!!hufff huff, sorry, i im kinda out of it today. >

Flash Actionscript 2.0 (if you get CS, use 2.0)

archmage · 2008-09-15 00:01:48

Bluestribute wrote:
Well, I know that. But I saw Archmage's .fla tutorial of it, and his MC didn't have any timeline clips (or maybe one), yet he had the same thing

YES IT DID mad

http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/140908/86323_platformer_engine.php

arrow keys for movement and space bar to jump.

Notice how the MC changes it's animations when you move him around? That's because I put different frames in the MC's timeline.

archmage · 2008-09-15 00:05:18

Bluestribute wrote:
mol17 wrote:
umm bluestribute, your confusing me.just tell me WICH ONES BETTER!!!hufff huff, sorry, i im kinda out of it today. >
Flash Actionscript 2.0 (if you get CS, use 2.0)

Sorry but AS3 is MUCH more efficient. AS2 is easier though.

terminator355 · 2008-09-15 00:25:41

archmage wrote:
Bluestribute wrote:
Well, I know that. But I saw Archmage's .fla tutorial of it, and his MC didn't have any timeline clips (or maybe one), yet he had the same thing
YES IT DID

http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/140908/86323_platformer_engine.php

arrow keys for movement and space bar to jump.

Notice how the MC changes it's animations when you move him around? That's because I put different frames in the MC's timeline.

i new it, i dont think there is another way to do it

terminator355 · 2008-09-15 00:28:14

beside morphing it with AS which is HARD

Scratch

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