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#1 2011-02-04 11:38:05

Lord-Sprites
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What is acceptable on Scratch

I want this to be a community discussion on what should be acceptable in a Scratch project, because I actually plan on making projects (don't worry, I didn't hit my head or anything)
I need to know if some of these things are too much
Blood - with this, I think it should be okay, but a warning is needed
Drugs - inappropriate, even with a warning, but what if it's not mentioned by name? For example, a character is injected with a vial of mysterious liquid. Obviously that's a drug
Murder - Not appropriate
Violence - generally yes as long as it's not too graphic. Cartoon violence needs no warning
Sexuality - Not appropriate
Drinking - I'm not sure about this, but it's probably not appropriate
Mass murder implication - by this, I'm talking about a character saying something like "He killed one thousand men." Note: This doesn't actually mean showing the killings. I think that this is allowed as long as it doesn't go into detail

Anything else?

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#2 2011-02-04 11:39:54

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

Oh, yes, the ever important issue of "Monkeys with guns"
I think that's already being discussed elsewhere, though

But about regular guns, would they be acceptable in a Scratch project if a warning was given?

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#3 2011-02-04 14:10:05

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

The thing is with warnings, they don't do much. If someone wants to watch something, a warning's not going to stop them.

Just think, when you make a project, "is this project suitable for someone of any age, and does it follow the Terms of Use?"

I think drugs are a no-go, however getting injected with a mysterious vial of liquid could imply a sleeping potion, or kind of fictional chemical that causes something, I'd say that is fine.

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#4 2011-02-04 14:47:42

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

WeirdF wrote:

The thing is with warnings, they don't do much. If someone wants to watch something, a warning's not going to stop them.

Just think, when you make a project, "is this project suitable for someone of any age, and does it follow the Terms of Use?"

I think drugs are a no-go, however getting injected with a mysterious vial of liquid could imply a sleeping potion, or kind of fictional chemical that causes something, I'd say that is fine.

^This

Hey, that was fun.  Yes, warnings are no good.  Either it is appropriate for an all-ages audience or it isn't.  What is and is not allowed is often hard to determine up front...hard and fast rules don't always apply.  Sometimes it's the context of how an element is used in a project that determines whether it is appropriate or not. 

Take drug use for instance.  A project that glorifies illegal drug use and promotes drug abuse would be almost certainly inappropriate.  Having a stickperson injected with a "mysterious vial of liquid" would probably be acceptable, depending on how graphicly it was portrayed and what the under-lying message was.

If you have a question about a project, you can always email it to help@scratch.mit.edu if you want some feedback on how it might be received.


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#5 2011-02-04 15:42:36

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

Your list is a good start.  Sexism and racism are also not ok on Scratch, so I'd add them to it.  Realistic violence is never ok either.  As to the blood / mild violence - some is ok, but too much isn't. This is hard to clearly define, and some of our mods are more sensitive to this than others. We try to be consistent, but since viewing projects is always subjective, the decisions will vary somewhat. But even a little blood / violence can result in a project being marked "Not for everyone."

One reason we don't have a hard and fast list of dos and donts is because a lot of things depend on context.  The Terms of Use are the main guidelines we use when judging projects. For example, cartoon violence is usually ok, but of course if it's done in a way that doesn't "Help keep the site friendly," (i.e. is disrespectful of a community member) then the project will be removed.

Sometimes I think we should find a picture of a cute 8 year old kid, let's call him "Joey," and put it on the Terms of Use.  Then we could say "Don't share any projects or comments that you wouldn't want little Joey to see!"  But I'm not sure that would deter those who love the lulz.

The challenge with Scratch is that we welcome people of so many different ages. So the parents of 8 year olds get upset when their kid sees something violent or bloody made by a 15 year old. So far the only practical solution to this problem we've seen is to judge things submitted to the site by the 8 year old standard, but that's clearly upsetting to a lot of older Scratchers. To them we apologize, but eventually end up saying that if they feel like the community is too immature, they should consider finding one with standards they feel are a better fit.  There's a lot of internets out there.

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#6 2011-02-04 15:44:28

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

Shouldn't we already know this

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#7 2011-02-04 17:07:32

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

SAT3-H wrote:

Shouldn't we already know this

Some of it  tongue  The rest varies by sensitivity, right?


There should be a stickied reminder, in my opinion  hmm

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#8 2011-02-04 22:07:40

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

Okay so just to tell you this was only my understanding of what could be put on Scratch, and I wanted it verified. Anyway, I have one more thing to add. People getting run over by cars. As in uh... a game where you drive around running down people. As long as the people don't like split in half or their heads pop off in a blood volcano type situation, it should be okay, right?


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#9 2011-02-04 23:04:08

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Re: What is acceptable on Scratch

Blade-Edge wrote:

Okay so just to tell you this was only my understanding of what could be put on Scratch, and I wanted it verified. Anyway, I have one more thing to add. People getting run over by cars. As in uh... a game where you drive around running down people. As long as the people don't like split in half or their heads pop off in a blood volcano type situation, it should be okay, right?

It's hard to say without seeing the project. From what you describe, I can say that it's possible it would be removed, but more likely it would only get the "Not for everyone" designation.


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