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#26 2008-08-30 14:49:24

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Re: Politics

I think Obama is too young and has not enough experience to be president. Although he had a lot of momentum in the primaries and was able to receive more votes than Hillary Clinton, it's hard to keep it up.

Even with George Bush, the current Republican president, I think MCcain will still be able to win. Some states will never vote for democrats and he made a smart choice by picking Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin as Vice President. She's a woman and 44 years old, so he can buy over the women and younger votes at the same time. It will also give his campaign a fresher appearance.

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#27 2008-08-31 01:09:55

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Re: Politics

AlanProjects wrote:

mccain is an idiot, worse than bush and btw bluestribute look here: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw . just 1 vid. of 1000. any way more vids on mccain: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=ioy90nF2anI
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Kj7HbqwZwRM&feature=related
and don't believe fox news either: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=0gh6r5ALVMo
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=yhyedUq6s8Y
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=gcJ9H4ZmDIg&feature=PlayList&p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D&index=37
and a good site: http://TheRealMcCain.com/
and trust me, there are 10000's more from where that came from.

what?? mccain ftw!


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#28 2008-08-31 11:21:36

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Re: Politics

AlanProjects wrote:

mccain is an idiot, worse than bush and btw bluestribute look here: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw . just 1 vid. of 1000. any way more vids on mccain: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=ioy90nF2anI
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Kj7HbqwZwRM&feature=related
and don't believe fox news either: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=0gh6r5ALVMo
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=yhyedUq6s8Y
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=gcJ9H4ZmDIg&feature=PlayList&p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D&index=37
and a good site: http://TheRealMcCain.com/
and trust me, there are 10000's more from where that came from.

You can't possibly believe YouTube is a reliable source for politics


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#29 2008-08-31 11:29:29

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Re: Politics

Zelda123 wrote:

I think Obama is too young and has not enough experience to be president. Although he had a lot of momentum in the primaries and was able to receive more votes than Hillary Clinton, it's hard to keep it up.

Even with George Bush, the current Republican president, I think MCcain will still be able to win. Some states will never vote for democrats and he made a smart choice by picking Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin as Vice President. She's a woman and 44 years old, so he can buy over the women and younger votes at the same time. It will also give his campaign a fresher appearance.

Very true. Although I consider myself a democrat, McCain seems like a decent guy. I don't particularly dislike either candidate, and I think the McCain/Palin ticket has a shot since they're playing up McCain's ability to reach out to both parties. He's just not the right guy to get us out of the middle east, which needs to happen before we can focus on the change both sides keep extolling. Plus I agree with Obama's plans for energy independence and affordable healthcare. This would make an interesting project chain: users put forward a reason why they prefer one candidate and those who agree or disagree could remix it!

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#30 2008-08-31 11:32:19

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Re: Politics

In Alberta, we have nothing but conservative for like 20 years.
GO THE GREEN TEAM!!! ONLY TEAM WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING!!!


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#31 2008-09-01 08:05:58

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Re: Politics

i think McCain should win. He is the better choice.  Although i don't really follow politics much iv read a lot online and McCain is the better choice

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#32 2008-09-01 13:04:29

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Re: Politics

I'm not American and I don't live in America either but I Like Obama from the amount of American news I've seen.


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#33 2008-09-01 17:14:29

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Re: Politics

soccerisawsome wrote:

I'm not American and I don't live in America either but I Like Obama from the amount of American news I've seen.

aww  sad


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#34 2008-09-01 17:19:45

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Re: Politics

soccerisawsome wrote:

I'm not American and I don't live in America either but I Like Obama from the amount of American news I've seen.

obama sounds ok. how do you know he has so many terrorist friends? it might just be a myth.

Of course, I'm Canadian so I'm probably ignorant of the candidates  big_smile

And... does anybody like Steven Harper? I don't.


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#35 2008-09-02 18:30:59

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Re: Politics

Ivaash wrote:

LOLZ I think all candidate stink Barrack Obama is inexperienced

Not really.Well kind of. He is new, but he knows the laws, repect the constitution, and is a nice person. I personally feel too many years in office corrupts you.Oh wel, At least he is intelligent unlike Mccain. GO OBAMA

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#36 2008-09-02 18:41:32

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Re: Politics

Bluestribute wrote:

AlanProjects wrote:

mccain is an idiot, worse than bush and btw bluestribute look here: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw . just 1 vid. of 1000. any way more vids on Mccain: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=ioy90nF2anI
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Kj7HbqwZwRM&feature=related
and don't believe fox news either: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=0gh6r5ALVMo
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=yhyedUq6s8Y
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=gcJ9H4ZmDIg&feature=PlayList&p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D&index=37
and a good site: http://TheRealMcCain.com/
and trust me, there are 10000's more from where that came from.

You can't possibly believe YouTube is a reliable source for politics

No, but from the amount of data(these are just some out of thousands), it is reliable. the youtube community is interesting, because of the millions of people on it and the fact that anything important will spread like wildfire from computer to computer. look at the comments. Almost all people agree with this. it is like wikipedia. although anyone can edit, many, many, many subjects on it are reliable. it is peer pressure. the same thing on youtube. that is why, usually if enough people agree on a topic, it will end up being reliable because of the millions of people reviewing it. one mistake and it is instantly is deemed untrustable because of the millions of people that review it. anyway i think this topic should be closed, because this is a fail-safe method to generate fights. Great idea, but it is just to unpredictable and will MOST LIKELY(I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL) create an argument(s).  big_smile

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#37 2008-09-02 18:45:21

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Re: Politics

Both canidates are okay. I don't know. But if I have to choose one, I choose Obama.


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#38 2008-09-02 18:46:26

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Re: Politics

AlanProjects wrote:

Bluestribute wrote:

AlanProjects wrote:

mccain is an idiot, worse than bush and btw bluestribute look here: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw . just 1 vid. of 1000. any way more vids on Mccain: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=ioy90nF2anI
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=Kj7HbqwZwRM&feature=related
and don't believe fox news either: http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=0gh6r5ALVMo
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=yhyedUq6s8Y
http://www.scratch.mit.edu/ext/youtube/?v=gcJ9H4ZmDIg&feature=PlayList&p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D&index=37
and a good site: http://TheRealMcCain.com/
and trust me, there are 10000's more from where that came from.

You can't possibly believe YouTube is a reliable source for politics

No, but from the amount of data(these are just some out of thousands), it is reliable. the youtube community is interesting, because of the millions of people on it and the fact that anything important will spread like wildfire from computer to computer. look at the comments. Almost all people agree with this. it is like wikipedia. although anyone can edit, many, many, many subjects on it are reliable. it is peer pressure. the same thing on youtube. that is why, usually if enough people agree on a topic, it will end up being reliable because of the millions of people reviewing it. one mistake and it is instantly is deemed untrustable because of the millions of people that review it. anyway i think this topic should be closed, because this is a fail-safe method to generate fights. Great idea, but it is just to unpredictable and will MOST LIKELY(I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL) create an argument(s). OMG my longest post ever lol.  big_smile

Already has  wink  about YouTube.

They can edit ANY video they want and cal it real. Most people don't pay attention if it's something they wanna believe, like how no one "Heard" that Obama said he was going to do something unconstitutional. You probably don't wanna belive that, or that he will raise taxes. Though how will he raise teachers salaries? who pays the teachers? Clever, saying nothing on taxes but raises teachers salaries. This is the same- you don't wanna believe that YouTube is false because what I'm accusing is false is what you don't wanna believe. I could easily put a bad video of Obama, call it real, and get people to believe it. It's that easy. Put all race aside. Here are your candidates:

Barack Hussein Obama:

Great speaker
Raise taxes
Didn't wear American flag on 9/11
Friends with Bill Ayer (pentagon bomber)
take out troops

John McCain:

Old and might die in office
His VP used to be an average American and knows our problems.
Keep troops in Iraq
More experience

I'll look up some more stuff. I'll finish this from a neutral standpoint, posting the good and bad. That is my standpoint right now. Though I have soccer practice tonight and a little homework

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#39 2008-09-02 19:00:01

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Re: Politics

Bluey wrote:

Barack Hussein(? That is a myth) Obama:

Great speaker!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raise taxes(Don't look at Mccain propaganda, the national center for responsible politics(non-partisan) said Mccain's plan is doomed, while Obama's was great(Again, look it up) and oh yeah, obama only would raise taxes on the rich, who(as a whole) don't really care about paying much more, there rich. Anyway, those words are words of Mccain's(Really, Joe Lieberman) and you should think first(no offense intended))
Didn't wear American flag on 9/11 (Alright, you get me on this one, but I ask you, Where was Mccain on 9/11? Look it up.)

John McCain:

Old and might die in office
His VP used to be an average American and knows our problems.
Keep troops in Iraq
More experience
Can't remember anything
(Sorry Gotta go woulda made it longer)

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#40 2008-09-02 19:02:11

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Re: Politics

AlanProjects wrote:

Bluey wrote:

Barack Hussein(? That is a myth) Obama:

Great speaker!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raise taxes(Don't look at Mccain propaganda, the national center for responsible politics(non-partisan) said Mccain's plan is doomed, while Obama's was great(Again, look it up) and oh yeah, obama only would raise taxes on the rich, who(as a whole) don't really care about paying much more, there rich. Anyway, those words are words of Mccain's(Really, Joe Lieberman) and you should think first(no offense intended))
Didn't wear American flag on 9/11 (Alright, you get me on this one, but I ask you, Where was Mccain on 9/11? Look it up.)

John McCain:

Old and might die in office
His VP used to be an average American and knows our problems.
Keep troops in Iraq
More experience
Can't remember anything
(Sorry Gotta go woulda made it longer)

Actually, his middle name isn't a myth. It's been on the news, internet, reliable sources. Everyone knows that his middle name is one of America's old enemies. But enough with this Democrat/Republican comparison. Obviously we will make our candidate sound better than they are. Later when I find some facts I'll post a neutral post (it will be VERY hard)


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#41 2008-09-02 19:19:09

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Re: Politics

bluesy wrote:

Obviously we will make our candidate sound better than they are. Later when I find some facts I'll post a neutral post (it will be VERY hard)

Actually, you are both making the opposite canidate, WORSE.

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#42 2008-09-02 19:24:20

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Re: Politics

Man, this is hilarious. They didn't bomb the pentagon, they flew a plane into it. Geez, just watch South Park for the truth about 9/11 (lol. pure awesomeness).

Anyways, go Green Party!!! Yay!!! I hope Green Party wins the federal election that's been rumored to be on October 18th. One time, my dad voted for "Natural Law Party" as a joke, because none of the candidates were good. ("Natural Law Party" were run by guys who thought meditation could let them fly, and could nover be attacked because they would give off a good, peaceful vibe. ROFLMAO!!! What a bunch of nuttheads!)

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#43 2008-09-02 20:45:54

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Re: Politics

Hobbs1100 wrote:

Man, this is hilarious. They didn't bomb the pentagon, they flew a plane into it. Geez, just watch South Park for the truth about 9/11 (lol. pure awesomeness).

Anyways, go Green Party!!! Yay!!! I hope Green Party wins the federal election that's been rumored to be on October 18th. One time, my dad voted for "Natural Law Party" as a joke, because none of the candidates were good. ("Natural Law Party" were run by guys who thought meditation could let them fly, and could nover be attacked because they would give off a good, peaceful vibe. ROFLMAO!!! What a bunch of nuttheads!)

YES!!! Finally someone agrees! They're the only party that looks at the big picture instead of their 4 years in office!!!


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#44 2008-09-02 21:58:04

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Re: Politics

Hobbs1100 wrote:

Man, this is hilarious. They didn't bomb the pentagon, they flew a plane into it. Geez, just watch South Park for the truth about 9/11 (lol. pure awesomeness).

Anyways, go Green Party!!! Yay!!! I hope Green Party wins the federal election that's been rumored to be on October 18th. One time, my dad voted for "Natural Law Party" as a joke, because none of the candidates were good. ("Natural Law Party" were run by guys who thought meditation could let them fly, and could nover be attacked because they would give off a good, peaceful vibe. ROFLMAO!!! What a bunch of nuttheads!)

I dunno. That's just what i heard (they bombed it not flew into it).

And I kinda ran outta time, though I need to find the information for my political arguments so tomorrow I'll try and do some research if I got no homework


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#45 2008-09-03 00:05:16

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Re: Politics

Though my dad told me something funny in the car:

You know how when they asked John McCain how many houses he owns (i'll describe details later) and he said ask later? Well Obama made a commercial about that. He said something like "he doesn't even know how many houses he has. He has 7 houses". Lol, Obama is wrong! He has 8! Lol, neither of them know how many houses McCain has!


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#46 2008-09-03 15:19:49

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McCains VPs daugter is pregnant in her teens though

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#47 2008-09-03 17:18:44

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Re: Politics

thelasthorizon wrote:

McCains VPs daugter is pregnant in her teens though

which means more first hand experience and views on abortions. Also is something many American families face, and knowing that someone running our country has been through it and still can help run this country makes them feel better about it. Anyways, I'll go look for facts now for my neutral argument


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#48 2008-09-03 17:45:04

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Re: Politics

We will start with Barack Obama (links to sites):

http://www.biography.com/featured-biography/barack-obama/index.jsp
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=BS030017
http://www.barackobama.com/about/
http://2008central.net/2008/07/02/review-barack-obama-biography-election-update/

Summary:

Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii to college students. His dad was a native Kenyan, his mom from Kansas. Although being a Muslim, he converted to Atheism. He has a B.A. from Columbia University. He belongs to the United Church of Christ.

Now for some John McCain links:

http://www.biography.com/featured-biography/john-mccain/
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=S0061103
http://www.cfr.org/bios/662/

Summary:

Born while his parents were at war, he has had a harsh life. He traveled from station to station with his family. He went to a private prep school. When he got older, he was captured and taken hostage for 5 years.

So just to little quick summaries of both candidates. I'll add to this as I come across stuff


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#49 2008-09-03 19:21:06

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Re: Politics

Weird. Views on abortion? Watch Juno for the soloution (more stuff I've learned from the magical television *ooooooooh*) to that. Lol.

Do you have any views on underaged smoking? I'm trying to get my highschool to do something about all the underaged smokers infront of the school on the sidewalk. I have to inhale tobacco EVERYDAY just to get to school and back. It's really bad.

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#50 2008-09-03 19:32:01

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Re: Politics

Hobbs1100 wrote:

Weird. Views on abortion? Watch Juno for the soloution (more stuff I've learned from the magical television *ooooooooh*) to that. Lol.

Do you have any views on underaged smoking? I'm trying to get my highschool to do something about all the underaged smokers infront of the school on the sidewalk. I have to inhale tobacco EVERYDAY just to get to school and back. It's really bad.

I hate smoking period. Luckily my future highschool (1000 students)'s smokers do it where no teachers would see 'cause we are kinda strick (lol, my highschool was the one on CNN and all those news networks cause they had pictures of smokers on a page entitled "Regrets")


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