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#451 2010-12-09 19:00:30

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

I don't even remember this happening, but I read up on it. Man, that's not nice, put me on there. Puts a really bad impression now on Namco.


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#452 2010-12-09 19:45:18

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

Here's a quote from an article on this:

warzone2000 (4 months ago | reply)

I sent the following letter to Namco legal counsel (at their main office address):

Dear Sirs,

I was amused to see you sending legal threats to little kids for programming:
www.flickr.com/photos/amonroy/4842331295/size s/l/

While I don't play games myself, things like this make it very easy to explain to children why they should never pay for software from companies such as yours. If kids buy Namco games, that money goes to lawyers, who in turn threaten more kids.

Thank you for helping provide more material that I can use to educate little kids about the ethical implications of respecting your intellectual property. I can explain to kids what happens to their money if they buy the game (the money goes to lawyers, who then threaten non-profits), and what happens if they don't buy the game (the money stays in their pockets, or better yet, gets donated to charitable causes).

Your random legal threats are most helpful. Please keep sending them. If we wish to banish the scourge of proprietary software, we do need more companies like yourselves to play the role of the villan as well as you do.

See, I'm gonna put this on my Scratch news series. Including this letter.

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#453 2010-12-09 19:48:37

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

Scratchthatguys wrote:

Here's a quote from an article on this:

warzone2000 (4 months ago | reply)

I sent the following letter to Namco legal counsel (at their main office address):

Dear Sirs,

I was amused to see you sending legal threats to little kids for programming:
www.flickr.com/photos/amonroy/4842331295/size s/l/

While I don't play games myself, things like this make it very easy to explain to children why they should never pay for software from companies such as yours. If kids buy Namco games, that money goes to lawyers, who in turn threaten more kids.

Thank you for helping provide more material that I can use to educate little kids about the ethical implications of respecting your intellectual property. I can explain to kids what happens to their money if they buy the game (the money goes to lawyers, who then threaten non-profits), and what happens if they don't buy the game (the money stays in their pockets, or better yet, gets donated to charitable causes).

Your random legal threats are most helpful. Please keep sending them. If we wish to banish the scourge of proprietary software, we do need more companies like yourselves to play the role of the villan as well as you do.

See, I'm gonna put this on my Scratch news series. Including this letter.

You know, I wonder if Namco even bothered to reply back to this.

Although, considering Namco's actions, I'm willing to bet they tossed it in the trash since it seems they don't really care about us. (


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#454 2010-12-09 19:53:39

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

We need to spread the news somehow. Put up fliers and posters, tell everyone you know. If you can, sue Namco. Okay, maybe not the latter. We should make a gallery where we post an animation of Pac-Man and put our name. That would probably get people noticing. I'll post a link soon, once I make it.

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#455 2010-12-09 20:01:58

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

Scratchthatguys wrote:

We need to spread the news somehow. Put up fliers and posters, tell everyone you know. If you can, sue Namco. Okay, maybe not the latter. We should make a gallery where we post an animation of Pac-Man and put our name. That would probably get people noticing. I'll post a link soon, once I make it.

Well, the news had spread out over August, when the news initially spread out in August. It seems that this thread is probably the one that constantly keeps updating (okay, so the list sadly has not been maintained well, but the fact that the thread is still alive is good news that this issue has not been so easily forgotten  big_smile  ([EDIT] I used my mods powers to update the list [/EDIT])

It seems that this action by Namco may not be new, though. According to this article, other companies follow pursuit (although it fails to mention which ones. I for one, would be interested to see which companies are also inconsiderate of Fair Use laws in the U.S).. Kind of pretty said, ne?

Last edited by cheddargirl (2010-12-09 20:09:00)


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#456 2010-12-09 20:14:25

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

The gallery.
Please add your projects after I upload the base project with my letter to Namco.

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#457 2010-12-09 20:49:49

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

cheddargirl wrote:

Scratchthatguys wrote:

We need to spread the news somehow. Put up fliers and posters, tell everyone you know. If you can, sue Namco. Okay, maybe not the latter. We should make a gallery where we post an animation of Pac-Man and put our name. That would probably get people noticing. I'll post a link soon, once I make it.

Well, the news had spread out over August, when the news initially spread out in August. It seems that this thread is probably the one that constantly keeps updating (okay, so the list sadly has not been maintained well, but the fact that the thread is still alive is good news that this issue has not been so easily forgotten  big_smile  ([EDIT] I used my mods powers to update the list [/EDIT])

It seems that this action by Namco may not be new, though. According to this article, other companies follow pursuit (although it fails to mention which ones. I for one, would be interested to see which companies are also inconsiderate of Fair Use laws in the U.S).. Kind of pretty said, ne?

Guess it's time then to get rid of anything Nintendo or Sony based...or not (only jap based companies I can think of).
But really, Namco doing this just sheds bad light on them, and they are a great company (see Ridge Racer & Tekken).


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#458 2010-12-09 21:07:38

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

blazerv82 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Scratchthatguys wrote:

We need to spread the news somehow. Put up fliers and posters, tell everyone you know. If you can, sue Namco. Okay, maybe not the latter. We should make a gallery where we post an animation of Pac-Man and put our name. That would probably get people noticing. I'll post a link soon, once I make it.

Well, the news had spread out over August, when the news initially spread out in August. It seems that this thread is probably the one that constantly keeps updating (okay, so the list sadly has not been maintained well, but the fact that the thread is still alive is good news that this issue has not been so easily forgotten  big_smile  ([EDIT] I used my mods powers to update the list [/EDIT])

It seems that this action by Namco may not be new, though. According to this article, other companies follow pursuit (although it fails to mention which ones. I for one, would be interested to see which companies are also inconsiderate of Fair Use laws in the U.S).. Kind of pretty said, ne?

Guess it's time then to get rid of anything Nintendo or Sony based...or not (only jap based companies I can think of).
But really, Namco doing this just sheds bad light on them, and they are a great company (see Ridge Racer & Tekken).

There's a lot of Japanese companies. I kind of don't want to blame Nintendo, Sony, Konami, Ganbarion, etc, until I see some kind of proof.


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#459 2010-12-09 21:38:54

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

cheddargirl wrote:

blazerv82 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


Well, the news had spread out over August, when the news initially spread out in August. It seems that this thread is probably the one that constantly keeps updating (okay, so the list sadly has not been maintained well, but the fact that the thread is still alive is good news that this issue has not been so easily forgotten  big_smile  ([EDIT] I used my mods powers to update the list [/EDIT])

It seems that this action by Namco may not be new, though. According to this article, other companies follow pursuit (although it fails to mention which ones. I for one, would be interested to see which companies are also inconsiderate of Fair Use laws in the U.S).. Kind of pretty said, ne?

Guess it's time then to get rid of anything Nintendo or Sony based...or not (only jap based companies I can think of).
But really, Namco doing this just sheds bad light on them, and they are a great company (see Ridge Racer & Tekken).

There's a lot of Japanese companies. I kind of don't want to blame Nintendo, Sony,
Konami, Ganbarion, etc, until I see some kind of proof.

I just meant that....yeah, nevermind. I wasn't trying to sound lime I was blaming anyone, if thats how you felt. I was trying to say that they might be "next in line". I don't think that they would do so however.


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#460 2010-12-10 16:09:57

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

i support.


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#461 2010-12-10 16:45:35

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

Post!


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#462 2010-12-11 11:10:37

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

We really need Namco to see this letter we have 117 supporters so show it to them!


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#463 2010-12-11 11:12:20

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

Put me on it!!!
I have a half decent pac-man project online!!!


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#464 2010-12-11 11:21:21

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

I don't want to be on it any more.


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#465 2010-12-11 11:22:09

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

It's been forever
They're not going to put i back online because of one silly small little forum topic

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#466 2010-12-11 12:43:06

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

kimmy123 wrote:

I don't want to be on it any more.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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#467 2010-12-11 12:44:28

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

FunDude wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:

I don't want to be on it any more.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


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#468 2010-12-11 12:44:54

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

kimmy123 wrote:

FunDude wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:

I don't want to be on it any more.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

How come? What made you change your mind?  hmm


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#469 2010-12-11 19:05:58

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

Sign Me up!


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#470 2010-12-11 19:07:42

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

I don't want to be on it anymore either...


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#471 2010-12-11 19:08:50

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

bananaman114 wrote:

I don't want to be on it anymore either...

Care to give a reason why? ^^


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#472 2010-12-11 19:40:35

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

juststickman wrote:

jackrulez wrote:

Add me! In fact, I'm going to start making my own Pacman project right now! I'm also adding Namco to my list of evil, bloodsucking corporations:

Evil, bloodsucking corporations:

• Microsoft
• Time Warner
• Namco

Apple

NOT APPLE!


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#473 2010-12-12 08:17:12

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Umm... I can't remember if I signed up  tongue

Sign me up if I haven't already, if I have, sorry.


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#474 2010-12-21 09:19:03

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

silverninja wrote:

It's been forever
They're not going to put i back online because of one silly small little forum topic

Mr. Negative...
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#475 2010-12-23 13:16:01

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Re: Project Pac-Man: Petition

Add me. NOW. NOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOW. How long does namcos copyright on pacman last? 25 or 50 years? If 25, we can probably reupload it in 2011 and say IN YOUR FACE NAMCO YOU ARE JERKS HAHA LOL DERP.

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