Scratch

The only problem would be limited memory, and hard drive space, so I'm not sure if Scratch and all of its media could make it on the Ipod. Also I'm not sure if the iPod can even run higher end Java.

mletreat wrote:

Hey-

Thanks for your suggestion about Scratch on the iPod/iPhone.  Currently we are not working on a version like this, but it is an interesting idea to explore for future releases of Scratch.  While we can't always accommodate every request, we try and add features that will help support the whole community.

At this time, we are working on a new version of Scratch to be released at the end of this summer.  You will see some new features implemented which we have seen several users asking for in the past. 

I encourage you to continue offering your suggestions, as we are always looking for new ways to improve Scratch and new ideas of possible ways to use Scratch. 

Thanks for your suggestion, we will consider it for future releases.

Hi mletreat, i am not sure if you have seen my post on a categorization system, but if you want, its lower down on the topics section. As paddle2see said it has been suggested many times, not directly, but as side comments on other suggestions. I think that it would really help people find what they want because of the great amount of growth in Scratch.

newareagle wrote:

and hard drive space

This would be great but as newaregle pointed out you could not save files on the hard disk. Maybe a Scratch file player, with the files downloaded from the Scratch website through Safari?

newareagle wrote:

Also I'm not sure if the iPod can even run higher end Java.

This is also true.

Pretty good idea

coolstuff wrote:

I agree with this, but you must remember these few things:

1) Scratch was volountarily made, and it was programmed in Squeak, which as far as I know is not (yet) compatible with iPod Touch/iPhone. This would cause the scratch team to program a completely different program with a completely different programming language

2) Scratch is not trying to be successful. It's main goal it to teach beginners the basics of programming, which I think it does quite well on SamSung phones, iMacs, and PCs. I do believe that and iPhone/iPod Touch app would be going "too far".

But don't let these things let you down! Keep on hoping and your dreams will come true!

you could convert it to java, if you had a compiler..... And anyway"Too far"? In scratch there's no such thing 

that would be sweet! scratch is java, right? i mean, you can view projects...

I really just want to put my games on my ipod and my phone, can u do that yet? So basically what can u play scratch with?

1. A mac computer
2. A Pc Computer
.....

no u misunderstand u r correct but this is wha i meant

1. A mac computer
2. A Pc Computer
3. A Nintendo Ds Portable gaming system
4. Ipod Portable system
(categories)

This is unfortunatly very doubtfull too happen although it would be great. However the scratch team may want to make a app for the ipod touch/iPhone that could run scratch games? (funny how this is the first time i see this and I saw it on my iPod touch :p)

glad to see this topic got a bit of attention 

first we need smalltalk on them then early smalltalk-80 then squeak then A CHANCE of scratch!

Perhaps it's faster to transfer the fully Squeak-Based Scratch development environment to the iPhone, than waiting for a iPhone-Java-Implementation, that only would be a Scratch-Player. I hope the iPhone has enough memory/performance to work with that. There already seems to be a Squeak-Implementation on the iPhone (not jet in the App-Store, but available for those, who use the iPhone SDK):
http://news.squeak.org/2008/09/11/squeak-on-the-iphone-available-for-download/

As Jens ( http://scratch.mit.edu/users/Jens ) is experimenting much with Scratch/Squeak-Modifications he could be a candidate for implementing that: But I don't know if Jens likes the iPhone :-)

I also think such an iPhone-implementation will not hit the target-group of Scratch directly - kids mostly have no iPhone - but it surely will give Scratch a very big additional "marketing push", that could help much in it's main target fields, because Scratch would get more attention by decision makers and potential sponsors.

IMHO Scratch is the idle SmallApp-Development-Enviroment on the iPhone with it's "drag-And-Drop" programming style: It  would be the first one direct on the iPhone...and everybody could use it, not only Hardcore-Programmers. So Scratch would get the attention of a high percentage of the fast growing group of iPhone users, and many of them are Teckis, VIPs and decision makers!

Who wants to write Scratch-History and implement Scratch on the iPhone?

Last edited by MartinWollenweber (2008-10-04 09:12:54)