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If South Korea gets nuked then everyone will be pressing for war against North Korea.

I have a feeling that if China gets involved it'll be on NK's side. Which, you know, won't be good because the US won't be able to take China on in any sort of military conflict, just due to the sheer manpower China has (and the fact that their factories produce most of our imported goods too!).

But hopefully diplomacy will work before we have to actually start worrying about these apocalyptic scenarios becoming a reality. I'm just speculating and doomsaying here =P

You never know about that - the same could have been said of the religious-based topics of the past.    So we'll see.

I think everyone here is in agreement that if North Korea's nukes start going off then we're all screwed. The only thing we could argue about, really, is the level of intervention required to stop this.

Last edited by S65 (2010-11-24 19:55:43)

silverninja wrote:

Ugh. Why do we always have to get involved.

cause the US pwns. Get fighter jets in there  and all of your problems will be solved. 
@s65: I don't think NK is dumb enough to do that, they'd get some of the blast and fallout themselves.

Last edited by 16Skittles (2010-11-24 20:02:07)

S65 wrote:

If South Korea gets nuked then everyone will be pressing for war against North Korea.

I have a feeling that if China gets involved it'll be on NK's side. Which, you know, won't be good because the US won't be able to take China on in any sort of military conflict, just due to the sheer manpower China has (and the fact that their factories produce most of our imported goods too!).

But hopefully diplomacy will work before we have to actually start worrying about these apocalyptic scenarios becoming a reality. I'm just speculating and doomsaying here =P

You never know about that - the same could have been said of the religious-based topics of the past.    So we'll see.

I think everyone here is in agreement that if North Korea's nukes start going off then we're all screwed. The only thing we could argue about, really, is the level of intervention required to stop this.

If anyone dropped a nuke, it would mean war. There is no doubt about it. And if China got involved, they would most defiantly side with the North, as they did 60 years ago. Thats why we need to hope and pray China stays neutral. Plus, if they got involved, production would go down the drain. Again, let's hope none of this happens.

16Skittles wrote:

silverninja wrote:

Ugh. Why do we always have to get involved.

cause the US pwns. Get fighter jets in there  and all of your problems will be solved. 
@s65: I don't think NK is dumb enough to do that, they'd get some of the blast and fallout themselves.

yes, with the F-22, we would control the skies. Recently the F-22 participated in a war game (Red Flag I think), and they pitted them against another team of F-15's (still an awesome plane  ), and the F-22 team got 136 simulated kills, and the other team, just 2. Thats a 68:1 kill ratio    Talk about incredible airplanes.

The reason for this is the F-22 is totally stealth, and can't be seen on radar (the Russians claim the MiG-31's radar can detect stealth thought...), and it's extremely hard to lock on with a heat seeker. The only way to take one down is with a point blank cannon shot, or a lucky AA shot.

Last edited by militarydudes (2010-11-24 20:10:08)

16Skittles wrote:

Guys, NK would take nuclear fallout from a bomb too!

Depends on where they attack.

Though I doubt North Korea would be stupid enough to attack the South Korean capital itself. Pyongyang (NK capital) is only 120km from Seoul (SK capital).

militarydudes wrote:

S65 wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

cause the US pwns. Get fighter jets in there  and all of your problems will be solved. 

Until they retaliate with their own fighter jets, anyway.

see my latest post...

Simulated games are very, very different from actual, in-the-field air battles, where there's a real risk of dying.

Remember that many of the planes (at this point anyway) are still controlled by people.

Last edited by S65 (2010-11-24 20:09:25)

I'm scared.

S65 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

There was a topic before about government systems and politics that was also out of control. From past experience, almost any topic dealing with religion, politics, or conspiracy theories usually lead to more trouble (see the first point in Guidelines to the Miscellaneous Forum), which is why I'm concerned about this topic. I just don't want a repeat of the same things that almost lead to the closing of Miscellaneous in the first place.

Maybe it's out of line for me to mention this here, but I don't believe that the staff should stifle discussion of current events simply because it could lead into an argument. If certain posters are constantly flamebaiting and getting into unnecessary heated arguments, then ban those posters. That's the job of a forum moderator, isn't it? Fight the cause, not the symptoms.

And either way topics like these are much more interesting than the dozens of other ones discussing old internet memes, current 4chan events, and LOLcats. For me personally anyway. I'd think many others would feel the same as well.

Actually moderators, for the most part, are not allowed to block users except in extreme cases. 

And yes, usually sometimes when it is few posters causing trouble, it is those posters that are usually warned or blocked, and Miscellaneous quiets down a little. But when many, many users, not a troublesome few, are involved, that's another story.

And while for you and others may be interested in topics of a more debate-like nature, it comes down to the issue that such topics are hard to moderate by the Scratch Team and the moderators up to the point that it takes up so much time away from dealing with more Scratch-related issues. To quote Lightnin about this:

Lightnin wrote:

This has been a big concern for the moderators and the Scratch Team. When the tone of a forum starts to get mean spirited, it starts taking a lot more work to keep an eye on. Believe it or not, mods and Scratch Team are a lot like the rest of you - we love Scratch and we like making projects and talking about cool Scratch related stuff. So it's a problem when mods and the Scratch Team have to spend a lot of their time dealing with flame wars, trolling, or other kinds of disrespectful posts in this forum. Most of our mods are volunteers who freely donate their time because they love Scratch. So it's not fair to ask them to spend so much of their time dealing with arguments that have nothing to do with Scratch.

Not that we're trying to stifle such talk, but in reality, it's better if it was taken elsewhere in a environment where such topics are better handled; for example there are other forums that are dedicated to discussing more serious topics of religion and politics, more suitable than Miscellaneous itself. 

Last edited by cheddargirl (2010-11-24 20:15:59)

This is not going to go over well with the Us..

Aidan wrote:

Wouldn't that be the Korean War II?

Pretty much. Again, we aren't planning on going to war. But yeah if we did, it would be the Second Korean War. Now, if more countries get involved in multiple theaters, meaning if more countries in different parts of the world would join the fight, it would very well be dubbed World War Three. But frankly I don't think anything is happening just yet. It'll probably be 3 to 5 or so years before anyone really starts freaking out. But who knows, I guess we'll see.

Last edited by militarydudes (2010-11-24 20:27:04)