I'm annoyed by losing my best projects because I quit Scratch before the project saves.
Why isn't there a message that will ask if you want to save the project before quitting?! It will save as long as it needs to, and then quit automatically.
I'm depressed. This always happens to my best -and that means biggest- projects because they save long.
Please answer me and tell me what you think.
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Quitting in the Mac OS X version always asks me if I want to save.
It seems like the right thing to do.
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relyt12101 wrote:
Just save and then quit. It's not that hard to do.
I quit when that square hides, and still the same thing happens!
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As this is my first post, I'll start by saying I think Scratch and its objectives are fantastic.
I think the saving issue is important. Yes, experienced computer users know that they should save regularly. The target audience for Scratch very well may not. So a young person may try the program, become enraptured by it, spend a long time making something that delights them. When they go back to show their best friend/parent/granny/dog what they've done, they could have accidently quit without saving. This is very demotivating behaviour. So although it seems a small thing, for the target audience I feel it's important to fix.
On a related note, (don't know whether it should be a separate thread) when you import a project, it sets your directory to the directory with the imported project (eg My Downloads). So next time you save, if you don't notice and specify the projects directory, you will be forever working in the downloads directory.
If you then think you may have accidentally quit without saving, and look in the Projects folder for your project, you won't find your project.
Hence my suggestion is that the default save directory should not change. This is the simplest behaviour, in line with the project's aims.
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MyRedNeptune wrote:
relyt12101 wrote:
Just save and then quit. It's not that hard to do.
I quit when that square hides, and still the same thing happens!
What square?
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Auto-save options (as in most text editors) would be a good idea. I've had students whose work was lost because someone tripped over the power cord.
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musiciangames wrote:
When they go back to show their best friend/parent/granny/dog what they've done, they could have accidently quit without saving.
No, I mean I save, wait until it saves, then quit. And when I trie to open it on the next day, I get a message that says: "Error reading project: key not found." So that means I've waited too little!
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well i save like every minute. when i exit scratch i click the save butten maybe 10 times and then exit. if you dont want to do that then save it, open up another window(without closing the original) and open your game to see if it was saved!
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I do get a dialog box that asks if I want to save before quitting. But only once in a while, seemingly random. I think the feature is there but that a bug somewhere makes it not work, or just work occasionally for some.
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I save all the time but it still says "problem reading project: Key not found"???? What does that mean? and will I ever be able to get my project back? I have been working ages on this game
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Hmmm... You can try e-mailing it as an attachment to scratch-try@media.mit.edu. Write a letter explaining your problem. Maybe the Scratch Team could help.
If you don't want to lose your project, I advise you to wait a long time for it to save, especially if it's a big project. Or you can just press the "open new project" button, then it will ask you if you want to save or not. You pick yes and wait until the projects list appears, so that way you can see when it saves and quit Scratch without risk.
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I'm working on one awesome project, and I once lost it just like you. That's why I posted this topic. Now I've started it again, and I'm almost done now, I'll upload it today. Now I'm very careful with it and always save it in two examples.
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ok, good idea, ur post was helpful 2 me
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I agree that Scratch should warn you when you are about to exit without saving after making changes. That would be really nice. I have never gotten the Key Not Found error you are talking about.
When I Save, the Save button becomes dark grey. When it becomes light grey again, then I know it has saved and it is safe to exit. I have made the mistake several times of exiting without saving and losing some work (usually not a lot).
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my always says "are you sure you want to click scratch? Yes/No"
and so i go "WAIT! MY PROJECT! ITS RUINED! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! oh wait. it asked me if i wanted to quit. well i'll just say no and save it.
you can also download your own project and save it.
Last edited by Heybrian (2008-02-06 20:12:59)
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kevin_karplus wrote:
someone tripped over the power cord.
oooooo.harsh. id hate to be the one working on that. theyed be like " hey what happend?"
*guy falls on ground* "YOU IDIOT!" lolololol
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I am always extra careful to see if I saved something properly. It would a disaster if a you worked so hard on a project and it didn't save properly.
I normally press "New" to check if it saved properly. If it gives a new page, then it saved properly, but if it asks you to save, then it didn't save properly and then I save it.
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Zelda123 wrote:
I normally press "New" to check if it saved properly. If it gives a new page, then it saved properly, but if it asks you to save, then it didn't save properly and then I save it.
That's a good technique!
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kevin_karplus wrote:
Auto-save options (as in most text editors) would be a good idea. I've had students whose work was lost because someone tripped over the power cord.
Although if you're just mucking around you might'nt want to save it. There should be an automatic thing that says,
'Do you want to save?'
Like when you try to open something it says that
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Toasty wrote:
kevin_karplus wrote:
Auto-save options (as in most text editors) would be a good idea. I've had students whose work was lost because someone tripped over the power cord.
Although if you're just mucking around you might'nt want to save it. There should be an automatic thing that says,
'Do you want to save?'
Like when you try to open something it says that
You can simply delete that file after.
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You could just upload all your projects and download them when you need to use them. Then saving isn't an issue and other people can see your works in progress. It is easier to learn when there are unfinished examples.
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