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#1 2010-11-01 13:38:09

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Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

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#2 2010-11-01 16:34:19

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

Hm... Interesting thoughts! Generally when somebody is banned for things other than trolling and commercial spamming, we ask the user to contact the Scratch Team about it, so in a way your suggestion is already being done.  wink

Additionally, a lot of discussion goes about in the Mod forum about banning users, and it isn't a task that's taken lightly. Even community moderators aren't allowed to do it without the Scratch Team's approval.

Furthermore, the "courtroom" looks a little bit public to me, and generally we like to keep things concerning the state of the user's account private. Things like whether they're banned, IPs, etc, are all for the user to release, not the Scratch Team.

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#3 2010-11-01 17:16:04

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

coolstuff wrote:

Hm... Interesting thoughts! Generally when somebody is banned for things other than trolling and commercial spamming, we ask the user to contact the Scratch Team about it, so in a way your suggestion is already being done.  wink

Additionally, a lot of discussion goes about in the Mod forum about banning users, and it isn't a task that's taken lightly. Even community moderators aren't allowed to do it without the Scratch Team's approval.

Furthermore, the "courtroom" looks a little bit public to me, and generally we like to keep things concerning the state of the user's account private. Things like whether they're banned, IPs, etc, are all for the user to release, not the Scratch Team.

I'm a bit confused about the 2nd paragraph.  hmm

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#4 2010-11-01 17:17:59

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

zorket wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

Hm... Interesting thoughts! Generally when somebody is banned for things other than trolling and commercial spamming, we ask the user to contact the Scratch Team about it, so in a way your suggestion is already being done.  wink

Additionally, a lot of discussion goes about in the Mod forum about banning users, and it isn't a task that's taken lightly. Even community moderators aren't allowed to do it without the Scratch Team's approval.

Furthermore, the "courtroom" looks a little bit public to me, and generally we like to keep things concerning the state of the user's account private. Things like whether they're banned, IPs, etc, are all for the user to release, not the Scratch Team.

I'm a bit confused about the 2nd paragraph.  hmm

We don't ban users without sufficient evidence to do so, essentially. The Moderators discuss it (in our Moderator forum) a LOT before actually doing anything.

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#5 2010-11-02 11:30:06

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

This is an interesting idea! To lend it more strength, it would be good to research other "online courtrooms." Wikipedia uses an open, transparent judicial process. What can we learn from them?


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#6 2010-11-02 16:02:35

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

Lightnin wrote:

This is an interesting idea! To lend it more strength, it would be good to research other "online courtrooms." Wikipedia uses an open, transparent judicial process. What can we learn from them?

Glad you liked my idea, Lightnin!


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#7 2010-11-02 18:56:56

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

Cool mockup!

My conclusion however, is that the Scratch Team, to my knowledge, wouldn't have enough time to have so many court cases this long each day, with all of the various people being banned; and what are the odds that all of the users would be online at the same time to attend it? Perhaps the accused would decide not to be there?


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#8 2010-11-05 16:36:03

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

Good points, Lucario.

That's one major issue: time. The other is that we wouldn't want to shame / embarrass anyone publicly. That's why we don't make it clear that someone has been blocked, or make the warnings / notification sent to their account visible to everyone.

But this has some problems: A lot of the time, we get reports about accounts that were used to do mean stuff, but are already banned. We can't even write back to say that we blocked them. So a lot of Scratchers seem to think we don't care / do anything, when actually do do a lot. So I'd like to find a way to be more transparent too, but it's not an easy problem. I'm glad to see this thread though - we'd love to hear more ideas about this kind of thing.


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#9 2010-11-05 19:52:44

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

Oh, forget the courtroom part! It's just messing up the topic.


Other people help the room, anyway.


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#10 2010-11-20 20:29:11

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#11 2010-11-21 05:14:34

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

maybe what could happen is the courtroom would be a topic in the mod forum.  only mods, scratch team members, the accused, and perhaps victims would be allowed on that topic.

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#12 2010-11-21 05:21:11

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

scimonster wrote:

maybe what could happen is the courtroom would be a topic in the mod forum.  only mods, scratch team members, the accused, and perhaps victims would be allowed on that topic.

i forgot to add that it would not all have to be at the same time, but everyone would post when they were there.  if the accused was not there for a certain length of time (2 days?), s/he would receive an email.  after that s/he would be banned if they did not show up.

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#13 2010-11-25 07:35:40

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

Lightnin wrote:

Good points, Lucario.

That's one major issue: time. The other is that we wouldn't want to shame / embarrass anyone publicly. That's why we don't make it clear that someone has been blocked, or make the warnings / notification sent to their account visible to everyone.

But this has some problems: A lot of the time, we get reports about accounts that were used to do mean stuff, but are already banned. We can't even write back to say that we blocked them. So a lot of Scratchers seem to think we don't care / do anything, when actually do do a lot. So I'd like to find a way to be more transparent too, but it's not an easy problem. I'm glad to see this thread though - we'd love to hear more ideas about this kind of thing.

A possible solution would be to reply something like:
"thank you for notifying us of this, we will deal with it appropriately."
that way, they don't have to know exactly what will happen, but will know that you are taking care of the problem

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#14 2010-12-21 19:58:18

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Re: Post a suggestion helper on courtroom

Umm... It's not my idea...


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