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#1 2010-10-13 22:45:23
Moving on from Scratch
I think that Scratch is a little easy (but it's still fun), so is there any other free programs for mac more advanced than Scratch that's not too hard? Don't worry, I'll still be on Scratch though. If you could include a link to it, that'd be really helpful 
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I already got-
etoys (even though it's easy)
opencobalt (but it's not really related)
alice
stencyl-applied for beta
python
processing
arduino (and a board)
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#3 2010-10-14 13:47:24
- tinoesroho
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Re: Moving on from Scratch
Gamemaker's "cool" but it isn't that much advanced. The projects you see on their community website is the typical cookie cutter projects.
Alice is probably the de facto criteria. It's uses the same idea as Scratch, but goes waaaay further. I don't have the link on me, but Google's your friend.
And Gamemaker is Windows based.
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#4 2010-10-14 13:49:55
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Re: Moving on from Scratch
How bout stencyl?
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#5 2010-10-14 15:12:09
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Re: Moving on from Scratch
Keep in mind that Scratch is a very flexible language, and you have the freedom to take from it what you will. It has countless complexities that I haven't even dipped my toe into. However, if you feel like trying something new, I would suggest Python or C++, which are good for real life applications, and draw upon concepts you've already learned from Scratch!
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#6 2010-10-14 15:26:35
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Re: Moving on from Scratch
tinoesroho wrote:
Alice is probably the de facto criteria. It's uses the same idea as Scratch, but goes waaaay further. I don't have the link on me, but Google's your friend.
I used that once when my dad showed it to me because he used it for Programming Class.
It sucked. 
Not really advanced either.
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#9 2010-10-14 16:33:46
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Re: Moving on from Scratch
I'd recommend moving on to Python, it a nice next step when it comes to programming. For more information go to python.org
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#10 2010-10-14 21:24:08
Re: Moving on from Scratch
kimmy123 wrote:
juststickman wrote:
How bout stencyl?
Isn't it just like scratch?
Not really. It shares some of the ideas of Scratch, but it's more advanced. Plus, the projects you make are actual Flash programs.
@demosthenes: I agree; Python is excellent. This and this are two great guides.
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#11 2010-10-15 11:41:04
Re: Moving on from Scratch
Visual Basic express is a fantastic windows based language which lets you make apps quickly and easily! Download is here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/Downloads/#2010-Visual-Basic
With a quick web search you can find plenty of guides as well.
http://www.reflectionforbrain.com/ is a really good guide!
Enjoy!
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#12 2010-10-15 19:51:41
Re: Moving on from Scratch
kayybee wrote:
I think that Scratch is a little easy (but it's still fun), so is there any other free programs for mac more advanced than Scratch that's not too hard? Don't worry, I'll still be on Scratch though. If you could include a link to it, that'd be really helpful
I already got-
etoys (even though it's easy)
opencobalt (but it's not really related)
alice
stencyl-applied for beta
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i hope you read all of it...
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#13 2010-10-15 20:05:17
Re: Moving on from Scratch
Demosthenes and Harakou suggested Python; it's a wonderful way to move on from Scratch. It's still fairly simple (you won't get a huge number of error messages) and it's quite fun to learn.
The first few chapters of this tutorial are excellent, but around the end it gets really confusing. I'd suggest using one of the guides Harakou suggested past that point.
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#14 2010-10-16 00:18:21
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Re: Moving on from Scratch
ob6160 wrote:
Visual Basic express is a fantastic windows based language which lets you make apps quickly and easily! Download is here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/Downloads/#2010-Visual-Basic
With a quick web search you can find plenty of guides as well.
http://www.reflectionforbrain.com/ is a really good guide!
Enjoy!
OB6160
There's also Small Basic - if I'm right, it's simpler than Visual Basic and will probably be easier to move on to. I sometimes use it when I want to do some number processing and Scratch is too slow for the job. 
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#15 2010-10-16 00:40:34
Re: Moving on from Scratch
Jonathanpb wrote:
ob6160 wrote:
Visual Basic express is a fantastic windows based language which lets you make apps quickly and easily! Download is here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/Downloads/#2010-Visual-Basic
With a quick web search you can find plenty of guides as well.
http://www.reflectionforbrain.com/ is a really good guide!
Enjoy!
OB6160There's also Small Basic - if I'm right, it's simpler than Visual Basic and will probably be easier to move on to. I sometimes use it when I want to do some number processing and Scratch is too slow for the job.
again, i only have a mac...
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#16 2010-10-16 10:39:27
Re: Moving on from Scratch
kayybee wrote:
Jonathanpb wrote:
ob6160 wrote:
Visual Basic express is a fantastic windows based language which lets you make apps quickly and easily! Download is here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/Downloads/#2010-Visual-Basic
With a quick web search you can find plenty of guides as well.
http://www.reflectionforbrain.com/ is a really good guide!
Enjoy!
OB6160There's also Small Basic - if I'm right, it's simpler than Visual Basic and will probably be easier to move on to. I sometimes use it when I want to do some number processing and Scratch is too slow for the job.
again, i only have a mac...
Mac Installer disk image for Python (Obtained from the Python 3.1.2 release page)
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#17 2010-10-16 10:46:09
Re: Moving on from Scratch
Harakou wrote:
kayybee wrote:
Jonathanpb wrote:
There's also Small Basic - if I'm right, it's simpler than Visual Basic and will probably be easier to move on to. I sometimes use it when I want to do some number processing and Scratch is too slow for the job.again, i only have a mac...
Mac Installer disk image for Python (Obtained from the Python 3.1.2 release page)
I believe kayybee and Jonathanpb were referring to Small Basic, not Python 
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#18 2010-10-16 10:57:45
Re: Moving on from Scratch
coolstuff wrote:
Harakou wrote:
kayybee wrote:
again, i only have a mac...Mac Installer disk image for Python (Obtained from the Python 3.1.2 release page)
I believe kayybee and Jonathanpb were referring to Small Basic, not Python
I know, I was just pointing that out, in case they didn't already know.
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#20 2010-10-16 19:19:47
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Re: Moving on from Scratch
Try Processing. I found it on the Scratch wiki, and I think it's really cool. It uses the same kind of syntax that Java uses, but it's easier to learn.
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