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#26 2010-09-12 22:26:27

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

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Usatt1337 wrote:

I can see you being a good choice for a mod. But my main question is, what forum moderating experience do you have outside of scratch?

I really don't find forum moderating experience a real reason. It's something everybody can do, really. Having experience in forum moderating helps a little, but it's not the main issue.

It is a main issue. And infact I know from experience from modding many many forums, ranging in size from huge to small, it does matter. The first time I was a mod I had no idea what the heck I was doing, or how to go about doing it. Being a forum user is one thing, moderating a forum is an entirely other. It is important, whether you want to believe it is or not. So yes, what experience do you have is a valid question, and I'd like it to be answered.

I have limited experience moderating, but I find that it matters little, so long as the person is mature, capable, and adaptive. For example, my brother became an admin of Wikipedia despite never having moderated a single forum prior to that.


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#27 2010-09-12 22:28:25

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Lucario621 wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

I can see you being a good choice for a mod. But my main question is, what forum moderating experience do you have outside of scratch?

I really don't find forum moderating experience a real reason. It's something everybody can do, really. Having experience in forum moderating helps a little, but it's not the main issue.

Lucario, this statement brings you down on my opinion. Forum moderating experience is crucial. It defines if you know how things should be dealt with on forums, your judgment online, and is what defines people who think they can be mods to people who have been mods and understand what it means.


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#28 2010-09-12 22:30:00

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

J0j2 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

I can see you being a good choice for a mod. But my main question is, what forum moderating experience do you have outside of scratch?

I really don't find forum moderating experience a real reason. It's something everybody can do, really. Having experience in forum moderating helps a little, but it's not the main issue.

Lucario, this statement brings you down on my opinion. Forum moderating experience is crucial. It defines if you know how things should be dealt with on forums, your judgment online, and is what defines people who think they can be mods to people who have been mods and understand what it means.

It actually tells you little about a given candidate, while experience is certainly a plus it does not matter when compared with what the given person is like, how they handle responsibility, how maturely they can respond to a situation, etc.


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#29 2010-09-12 22:31:17

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

demosthenes wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

I really don't find forum moderating experience a real reason. It's something everybody can do, really. Having experience in forum moderating helps a little, but it's not the main issue.

It is a main issue. And infact I know from experience from modding many many forums, ranging in size from huge to small, it does matter. The first time I was a mod I had no idea what the heck I was doing, or how to go about doing it. Being a forum user is one thing, moderating a forum is an entirely other. It is important, whether you want to believe it is or not. So yes, what experience do you have is a valid question, and I'd like it to be answered.

I have limited experience moderating, but I find that it matters little, so long as the person is mature, capable, and adaptive. For example, my brother became an admin of Wikipedia despite never having moderated a single forum prior to that.

Demos, that is a very good response to a valid question. Administrators are very different than mods. But my main reason for voting for you is because before this you have made incredibly valid posts about general topics that are about the forums themselves. You've gotten some posts stickied before without being a moderator. I find that amazingly impressive.

True, an amount of experience has little to do with what this person truly is, but it does mean they are weathered to this particular form of judgment. It does not define if you should be vote though.

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#30 2010-09-12 22:33:09

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

J0j2 wrote:

Demos, that is a very good response to a valid question. Administrators are very different than mods. But my main reason for voting for you is because before this you have made incredibly valid posts about general topics that are about the forums themselves. You've gotten some posts stickied before without being a moderator. I find that amazingly impressive.

Thank you, I've always tried my best to contribute to the community in any way I can. I guess after making hundreds of post and starting hundreds of threads chances were I would get stickied eventually  wink


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True, an amount of experience has little to do with what this person truly is, but it does mean they are weathered to this particular form of judgment. It does not define if you should be vote though.

I agree, experience can be a great help. It is one of the reasons a 13 year old is probably better suited to this post than a 5 year old. They have different amounts of experience in life, experience that imparts judgement and wisdom.

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#31 2010-09-12 22:40:11

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

demosthenes wrote:

J0j2 wrote:

True, an amount of experience has little to do with what this person truly is, but it does mean they are weathered to this particular form of judgment. It does not define if you should be vote though.

I agree, experience can be a great help. It is one of the reasons a 13 year old is probably better suited to this post than a 5 year old. They have different amounts of experience in life, experience that imparts judgement and wisdom.

Yes, I feel that experience is actually another good way to tell if it's a preteen or teenager helping to run the forums rather than a seven year old. I can only imagine what would happen if you gave these positions to children who don't understand what it means to help run a forum. Kids can be impulsive (not to say I'm not sometimes but I try not to be on forum posts), angry and not understand the fullest meaning of things beyond their age. Not to say if you do not have moderating experience you are immature, but it does show you might be older. It's not necessarily a negative not to have it, it just counts as a plus to have it.


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#32 2010-09-12 22:42:05

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

J0j2 wrote:

demosthenes wrote:

J0j2 wrote:

True, an amount of experience has little to do with what this person truly is, but it does mean they are weathered to this particular form of judgment. It does not define if you should be vote though.

I agree, experience can be a great help. It is one of the reasons a 13 year old is probably better suited to this post than a 5 year old. They have different amounts of experience in life, experience that imparts judgement and wisdom.

Yes, I feel that experience is actually another good way to tell if it's a preteen or teenager helping to run the forums rather than a seven year old. I can only imagine what would happen if you gave these positions to children who don't understand what it means to help run a forum. Kids can be impulsive (not to say I'm not sometimes but I try not to be on forum posts), angry and not understand the fullest meaning of things beyond their age. Not to say if you do not have moderating experience you are immature, but it does show you might be older. It's not necessarily a negative not to have it, it just counts as a plus to have it.

Yes! I agree with all your comments here  smile

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#33 2010-09-12 22:54:01

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

demosthenes wrote:

J0j2 wrote:

Yes, I feel that experience is actually another good way to tell if it's a preteen or teenager helping to run the forums rather than a seven year old. I can only imagine what would happen if you gave these positions to children who don't understand what it means to help run a forum. Kids can be impulsive (not to say I'm not sometimes but I try not to be on forum posts), angry and not understand the fullest meaning of things beyond their age. Not to say if you do not have moderating experience you are immature, but it does show you might be older. It's not necessarily a negative not to have it, it just counts as a plus to have it.

Yes! I agree with all your comments here  smile

One of the most difficult things when browsing about on the Forums is to know when to post and when to hold back.

Of course. When you so badly would like to make a post stating your opinion, but then wondering if it just brings you down to that level and that it is unnecessary. As a normal poster and community member, as a candidate and especially as a moderator because you have an even higher responsibility.

That's a quality I find you to be very, very good at, Demos. That's something I truly admire in you as a scratcher and as a respectful person.


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#34 2010-09-12 23:04:02

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Excuse me having interrupted in this lovely discussion, but I will be addressing some of the issues about moderating experience being crucial. Wolfie1996 had no prior moderating experience before Scratch, and I doubt MRN or JSO did either. And yet they are some of our best moderators. Having moderated both the Scratch forums and other forums, I must say, moderating the Scratch Forums is very different from any other forum. The community here is much larger, meaning your decisions have much larger effect. I don't think having created and moderated my own forum contributed at all to learning on moderating Scratch. Scratch is just such an outlier in terms of rules and policies, there really is no forum of a small-ish scale that can be used as a valid indicator of "experience" in terms of moderating.

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#35 2010-09-12 23:06:47

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

coolstuff wrote:

Wolfie1996 had no prior moderating experience before Scratch

*cough* What about AGU? :D


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#36 2010-09-12 23:34:33

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

coolstuff wrote:

Excuse me having interrupted in this lovely discussion, but I will be addressing some of the issues about moderating experience being crucial. Wolfie1996 had no prior moderating experience before Scratch, and I doubt MRN or JSO did either. And yet they are some of our best moderators. Having moderated both the Scratch forums and other forums, I must say, moderating the Scratch Forums is very different from any other forum. The community here is much larger, meaning your decisions have much larger effect. I don't think having created and moderated my own forum contributed at all to learning on moderating Scratch. Scratch is just such an outlier in terms of rules and policies, there really is no forum of a small-ish scale that can be used as a valid indicator of "experience" in terms of moderating.

Kind of funny this is coming from a mod, hehe.

MRN and JSO might not have had experience, but they've been using the forums for so long, at the moment they have all the prior experience they need. I do certainly agree, the scratch forums are a whole new community, but some things still remain the same. The format of posts. The format of the forums. Trolling, spamming and unacceptable forum basics. It helps to have experience because it then may become easier to identify and know how to deal with these steps.

I do not think not having experience means you'll be a bad mod. I think if you do have experience, it does certainly add a positive spin on your abilities.


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#37 2010-09-13 16:08:42

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Blade-Edge wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

Wolfie1996 had no prior moderating experience before Scratch

*cough* What about AGU?  big_smile

Wolfie1996 has never been a member of the AGU, let alone a moderator  hmm

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#38 2010-09-13 17:00:37

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

coolstuff wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

Wolfie1996 had no prior moderating experience before Scratch

*cough* What about AGU?  big_smile

Wolfie1996 has never been a member of the AGU, let alone a moderator  hmm

Sorry, thought you said "and I" in there


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#39 2010-09-15 19:11:30

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Bump from me.  big_smile


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#40 2010-09-18 12:55:46

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Bump with the theory that if the Scratch Team announces the election will happen, it will be soon.


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#41 2010-09-18 14:53:13

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

I was expecting it to be while I was away, so that I wouldn't be able to mess things up, but it wasn't


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#42 2010-09-29 18:04:13

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

I'm bumping up this post, considering the recent news about the election.


Just to clarify, I will be 14 by the end of October, so I am eligible and I will run  smile


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#43 2010-10-01 16:09:03

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Bumping this up because of relevance . . .


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#44 2010-10-01 20:26:29

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Bumping for you.


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#45 2010-10-01 21:14:20

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Bumped  smile


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#46 2010-10-01 21:24:05

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Bump... good luck!  smile


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#47 2010-10-14 16:31:29

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Bump.

I'm going to run this fall and have nominated myself in the announcement thread.

Good luck everyone else!


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#48 2010-10-14 16:32:23

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Yay! I'm going to have such a hard time figuring out who to vote for... Right now, I'm torn between you and FlexiStudio. We'll see who else decides to run!

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#49 2010-10-14 16:35:29

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

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Yay! I'm going to have such a hard time figuring out who to vote for... Right now, I'm torn between you and FlexiStudio. We'll see who else decides to run!

Thanks for support coolstuff!


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#50 2010-10-14 16:48:24

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Re: Demosthenes for Moderator (Again)

Wish you luck, demos. I'm not completely sure who will get my top three votes; the choice is a hard one  neutral   lol

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