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#1 2010-10-01 20:10:32

randomuser1
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Registered: 2010-09-17
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3-D, How? :/

Hi, I want to know how to make a really cool 3-d object on scratch. How?   hmm  Looking at the scripts for 3-D projects help a little bit, but I still don't understand. Please tell me how, I really want to learn!  smile


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#2 2010-10-01 20:22:35

XplodingEggs
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

What kind of 3D game do you want to make? If its a game like the Legend of Zelda, then you would just have to have about 500 different costumes, and have a very specific code setting for each one, but if its something simple, such as Reamm's 3D cube, then you could just have a large number of sprites all in a very exact position, or, if you're looking for a challenge, then you could have one single sprite with about 20 different costumes, then moving up and down stamping and clearing itself.
I hope this helps, and Scratch On!  big_smile


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#3 2010-10-01 20:37:30

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Re: 3-D, How? :/

XplodingEggs wrote:

What kind of 3D game do you want to make? If its a game like the Legend of Zelda, then you would just have to have about 500 different costumes, and have a very specific code setting for each one, but if its something simple, such as Reamm's 3D cube, then you could just have a large number of sprites all in a very exact position, or, if you're looking for a challenge, then you could have one single sprite with about 20 different costumes, then moving up and down stamping and clearing itself.
I hope this helps, and Scratch On!  big_smile

I want to do something like the simple game you showed. How could I do that?  hmm


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#4 2010-10-01 20:55:29

coolstuff
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

All 3D is pretty difficult to make, and there really isn't any reliable way to make full 3D. It's all a very difficult process which even some of the most advanced Scratchers have been unable to do. I would go so far as to say that it's nearly impossible.

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#5 2010-10-01 21:09:58

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Re: 3-D, How? :/

coolstuff wrote:

I would go so far as to say that it's nearly impossible.

I wouldn't!  big_smile

I'll upload something


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#6 2010-10-02 08:11:09

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Re: 3-D, How? :/

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

I would go so far as to say that it's nearly impossible.

I wouldn't!  big_smile

I'll upload something

I said it would be nearly impossible, not impossible  tongue . But for full, reliable 3D, you need to get a megaton of experience.

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#7 2010-10-02 08:25:04

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Re: 3-D, How? :/

coolstuff wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

I would go so far as to say that it's nearly impossible.

I wouldn't!  big_smile

I'll upload something

I said it would be nearly impossible, not impossible  tongue . But for full, reliable 3D, you need to get a megaton of experience.

I've made a 3D fps engine before (not the one I uploaded)

EDIT: you just have to be good at knowing what math to use  big_smile

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#8 2010-10-03 10:59:29

Hardmath123
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

Click here, it's my tutorial: ->3D!<- Hope it helps  wink

Last edited by Hardmath123 (2010-10-03 11:01:41)


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#9 2010-10-03 12:08:52

Harakou
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:


I wouldn't!  big_smile

I'll upload something

I said it would be nearly impossible, not impossible  tongue . But for full, reliable 3D, you need to get a megaton of experience.

I've made a 3D fps engine before (not the one I uploaded)

EDIT: you just have to be good at knowing what math to use  big_smile

Okay, but 3D engines in Scratch tend to be very slow and impractical


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#10 2010-10-03 13:18:40

HD123
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

I've done a little 3D, maybe I can help.

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/HD123/1261150 is a simple example I made a while ago.


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#11 2010-10-03 17:55:05

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Re: 3-D, How? :/

Harakou wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:


I said it would be nearly impossible, not impossible  tongue . But for full, reliable 3D, you need to get a megaton of experience.

I've made a 3D fps engine before (not the one I uploaded)

EDIT: you just have to be good at knowing what math to use  big_smile

Okay, but 3D engines in Scratch tend to be very slow and impractical

True, but not if you know how do do it.


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#12 2010-10-03 19:45:08

Harakou
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

Harakou wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:


I've made a 3D fps engine before (not the one I uploaded)

EDIT: you just have to be good at knowing what math to use  big_smile

Okay, but 3D engines in Scratch tend to be very slow and impractical

True, but not if you know how do do it.

Okay Mr. Genius, prove it.  tongue  Even the best 3D engines I've seen are slow.


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#13 2010-10-03 19:51:20

ScratchReallyROCKS
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

Harakou wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

Harakou wrote:

Okay, but 3D engines in Scratch tend to be very slow and impractical

True, but not if you know how do do it.

Okay Mr. Genius, prove it.  tongue  Even the best 3D engines I've seen are slow.

I'll upload it tonight. It's won't be slow, but it won't be fast either.

EDIT: what about this?

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#14 2010-10-03 20:21:19

Harakou
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

Harakou wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:


True, but not if you know how do do it.

Okay Mr. Genius, prove it.  tongue  Even the best 3D engines I've seen are slow.

I'll upload it tonight. It's won't be slow, but it won't be fast either.

EDIT: what about this?

I was under the impression we were talking about something capable of rendering a significant amount of 3D objects in real time, not a simple rectangular prism. Of course those are easily possible.  hmm


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#15 2010-10-03 20:45:52

platform710
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Registered: 2010-04-23
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

randomuser1 wrote:

Hi, I want to know how to make a really cool 3-d object on scratch. How?   hmm  Looking at the scripts for 3-D projects help a little bit, but I still don't understand. Please tell me how, I really want to learn!  smile

if you want to do simple 3d objects that you have to move away to avoid, you could use the change X and Y position and do if touching object and y position not equal to -148 or something like that. i am not completely sure though  smile


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#16 2010-10-03 21:48:00

ScratchReallyROCKS
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

Harakou wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

Harakou wrote:


Okay Mr. Genius, prove it.  tongue  Even the best 3D engines I've seen are slow.

I'll upload it tonight. It's won't be slow, but it won't be fast either.

EDIT: what about this?

I was under the impression we were talking about something capable of rendering a significant amount of 3D objects in real time, not a simple rectangular prism. Of course those are easily possible.  hmm

for a 1s1s that would be hard, but with multiple sprites it would be a lot easier and faster.


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#17 2010-10-04 14:56:42

labbyguy
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

You first go to the setting. Click "I want my _____ (Coudn't think of a word) to be 3-D. Write the name of it. You will have to have a 6 day wait. After 6 days you make your _____ and it automatically becomes 3-D.

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#18 2010-10-04 15:39:51

ScratchReallyROCKS
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Posts: 1000+

Re: 3-D, How? :/

labbyguy wrote:

You first go to the setting. Click "I want my _____ (Coudn't think of a word) to be 3-D. Write the name of it. You will have to have a 6 day wait. After 6 days you make your _____ and it automatically becomes 3-D.

what are you talking about?


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#19 2010-10-05 10:29:20

labbyguy
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

I was just kiddin (Talking to ScratchReallyROCKS)

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#20 2010-10-05 15:43:50

ScratchReallyROCKS
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Re: 3-D, How? :/

labbyguy wrote:

I was just kiddin (Talking to ScratchReallyROCKS)

Good, because what you said made no sense.  lol

And you can call me SRR if you want  smile


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