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#176 2010-09-11 16:28:46

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

demosthenes wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

I think age isn't much important - more of maturity. In this case, maturity usually somewhat relates to age, with the exception of trolls; so we just want to focus on that.

While I agree age has little to do with maturity, I don't without certain experiences (which, of course, come with age), someone can develop a mental security that can help them to act maturely and responsibly when a rather distressing situation (such as the aforementioned spam attack) occurs. If someone younger and less mature than Wolfie who had never seen such images as were being posted, I believe, things would have gone much worse and gotten out of hand quickly.

Exactly. So you usually need age to have maturity, but just because you have age doesn't mean you have maturity. Can we all agree on that and stop being kinda like a broken record?


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#177 2010-09-11 16:31:39

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

I, personally, think that I'm very mature!  tongue  (when I want to) But really. I can be very mature if I want to be.  smile


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#178 2010-09-11 16:34:59

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

I'm the most immature person I know  big_smile
However, this topic is for the Mod elections, so I will now proceed to make this on-topic:
Even if a very mature nine-year-old runs, I would still think twice about voting for them, because, seriously, despite their maturity, they shouldn't be exposed to some of the situations a mod may have to (But hopefully won't) face.


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#179 2010-09-11 16:43:59

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

I'm the most immature person I know  big_smile
However, this topic is for the Mod elections, so I will now proceed to make this on-topic:
Even if a very mature nine-year-old runs, I would still think twice about voting for them, because, seriously, despite their maturity, they shouldn't be exposed to some of the situations a mod may have to (But hopefully won't) face.

This.

... Is why you can't become president when you're 26.  wink

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#180 2010-09-11 16:49:33

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

iCode-747 wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

I'm the most immature person I know  big_smile
However, this topic is for the Mod elections, so I will now proceed to make this on-topic:
Even if a very mature nine-year-old runs, I would still think twice about voting for them, because, seriously, despite their maturity, they shouldn't be exposed to some of the situations a mod may have to (But hopefully won't) face.

This.

... Is why you can't become president when you're 26.  wink

Does that mean you disagree?  tongue

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#181 2010-09-11 16:58:36

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

iCode-747 wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

I'm the most immature person I know  big_smile
However, this topic is for the Mod elections, so I will now proceed to make this on-topic:
Even if a very mature nine-year-old runs, I would still think twice about voting for them, because, seriously, despite their maturity, they shouldn't be exposed to some of the situations a mod may have to (But hopefully won't) face.

This.

... Is why you can't become president when you're 26.  wink

Does that mean you disagree?  tongue

No, you have to be 35 to be president.

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#182 2010-09-11 17:00:34

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

Aidan wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

iCode-747 wrote:


This.

... Is why you can't become president when you're 26.  wink

Does that mean you disagree?  tongue

No, you have to be 35 to be president.

So, it means he agrees?
Lolwut?


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#183 2010-09-11 17:07:20

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

I have written a rough speech (that is due to undergo a revision).

Now my question is, will this election happen soon? We seem to have had very little communication with the Scratch team during the preliminary part of this election.


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#184 2010-09-11 17:13:10

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

Posted a speech. Mostly for me to become a candidate. I'll write a longer one if I'm accepted.


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#185 2010-09-11 17:21:32

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

Yes, I agree that certain ages should not be allowed to be a moderator, due to situations and such that would arise. We don't want anyone to lose their innocence. I think that the age limit should be 11. Partly because that is the current youngest moderator, and partly because most eleven year olds are, mature, and levelheaded by that age.

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#186 2010-09-11 17:23:20

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

Aidan wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

Does that mean you disagree?  tongue

No, you have to be 35 to be president.

So, it means he agrees?
Lolwut?

You said:

I'm the most immature person I know   
However, this topic is for the Mod elections, so I will now proceed to make this on-topic:
Even if a very mature nine-year-old runs, I would still think twice about voting for them, because, seriously, despite their maturity, they shouldn't be exposed to some of the situations a mod may have to (But hopefully won't) face.

It's exposure, stress, and unknowing. Read the opening of Executive Orders.  wink

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#187 2010-09-11 17:25:19

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

soupoftomato wrote:

Yes, I agree that certain ages should not be allowed to be a moderator, due to situations and such that would arise. We don't want anyone to lose their innocence. I think that the age limit should be 11. Partly because that is the current youngest moderator, and partly because most eleven year olds are, mature, and levelheaded by that age.

I say 12.

iCode-747 wrote:

You said:

I'm the most immature person I know   
However, this topic is for the Mod elections, so I will now proceed to make this on-topic:
Even if a very mature nine-year-old runs, I would still think twice about voting for them, because, seriously, despite their maturity, they shouldn't be exposed to some of the situations a mod may have to (But hopefully won't) face.

It's exposure, stress, and unknowing. Read the opening of Executive Orders.  wink

... By Tom Clancy.

Umm.. That didn't make it make any more sense  tongue


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#188 2010-09-11 17:27:53

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Yes, I agree that certain ages should not be allowed to be a moderator, due to situations and such that would arise. We don't want anyone to lose their innocence. I think that the age limit should be 11. Partly because that is the current youngest moderator, and partly because most eleven year olds are, mature, and levelheaded by that age.

I say 12.

Could you explain why you think that year makes a large difference in maturity level? Right now you seem like you're just trying to get the last word in.


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#189 2010-09-11 17:29:16

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

soupoftomato wrote:

Yes, I agree that certain ages should not be allowed to be a moderator, due to situations and such that would arise. We don't want anyone to lose their innocence. I think that the age limit should be 11. Partly because that is the current youngest moderator, and partly because most eleven year olds are, mature, and levelheaded by that age.

I personally believe that age 11 probably isn't an old enough age to be fully, as you put it, levelheaded in such situations.

I think the age limit should be 13+, although this could certainly cause problems because of Dazachi and illusionist.


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#190 2010-09-11 17:30:05

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

soupoftomato wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Yes, I agree that certain ages should not be allowed to be a moderator, due to situations and such that would arise. We don't want anyone to lose their innocence. I think that the age limit should be 11. Partly because that is the current youngest moderator, and partly because most eleven year olds are, mature, and levelheaded by that age.

I say 12.

Could you explain why you think that year makes a large difference in maturity level? Right now you seem like you're just trying to get the last word in.

No? Being eleven, I do not believe that someone my age could handle the position, but thats just me. There are probably plenty of people who are eleven that can, and possibly will, be able to handle being a moderator, though. And one year can be a very big difference, but I guess it is pointless for me to argue about it. However, I still say it should be twelve.


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#191 2010-09-11 17:36:31

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

I personally don't think there should be an age limit, and instead it should just be judged by the personality and scratch experience of the user. People could be too judgmental because of age. And some people are more mature than others at different ages, so it really depends on the person - thus there shouldn't be an exact rule on it.

And by that, I mean just like Scratch Moderator activity; there's no rule on it, but you should actually use your privileges and not just have it as a status.

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#192 2010-09-11 17:38:01

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

I say 12.

Could you explain why you think that year makes a large difference in maturity level? Right now you seem like you're just trying to get the last word in.

No? Being eleven, I do not believe that someone my age could handle the position, but thats just me. There are probably plenty of people who are eleven that can, and possibly will, be able to handle being a moderator, though. And one year can be a very big difference, but I guess it is pointless for me to argue about it. However, I still say it should be twelve.

That is the most invalid argument I have ever heard.
You said "There are probably plenty of people who are eleven that can, and possibly will, be able to handle being a moderator, though."
Yet, you still say there should be an age limit of twelve? o_O

Eh, I have changed my mind. There should be no age limit, but the voters should keep in mind the age of the candidates before voting. How about that?

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#193 2010-09-11 17:39:52

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Could you explain why you think that year makes a large difference in maturity level? Right now you seem like you're just trying to get the last word in.

No? Being eleven, I do not believe that someone my age could handle the position, but thats just me. There are probably plenty of people who are eleven that can, and possibly will, be able to handle being a moderator, though. And one year can be a very big difference, but I guess it is pointless for me to argue about it. However, I still say it should be twelve.

That is the most invalid argument I have ever heard.
You said "There are probably plenty of people who are eleven that can, and possibly will, be able to handle being a moderator, though."
Yet, you still say there should be an age limit? o_O
Eh, I have changed my mind. There should be no age limit, but the voters should keep in mind the age of the candidates before voting. How about that?

Why are you arguing with yourself? xD


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#194 2010-09-11 17:40:25

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Could you explain why you think that year makes a large difference in maturity level? Right now you seem like you're just trying to get the last word in.

No? Being eleven, I do not believe that someone my age could handle the position, but thats just me. There are probably plenty of people who are eleven that can, and possibly will, be able to handle being a moderator, though. And one year can be a very big difference, but I guess it is pointless for me to argue about it. However, I still say it should be twelve.

That is the most invalid argument I have ever heard.
You said "There are probably plenty of people who are eleven that can, and possibly will, be able to handle being a moderator, though."
Yet, you still say there should be an age limit? o_O
Eh, I have changed my mind. There should be no age limit, but the voters should keep in mind the age of the candidates before voting. How about that?

Um, yeah, ruffle, you posted that.  tongue   lol

Anyway, yeah, you should definitely keep in mind their age when voting, but an age limit is a no-go.


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#195 2010-09-11 17:40:45

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

rufflebee wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Yes, I agree that certain ages should not be allowed to be a moderator, due to situations and such that would arise. We don't want anyone to lose their innocence. I think that the age limit should be 11. Partly because that is the current youngest moderator, and partly because most eleven year olds are, mature, and levelheaded by that age.

I say 12.

iCode-747 wrote:

You said:

I'm the most immature person I know   
However, this topic is for the Mod elections, so I will now proceed to make this on-topic:
Even if a very mature nine-year-old runs, I would still think twice about voting for them, because, seriously, despite their maturity, they shouldn't be exposed to some of the situations a mod may have to (But hopefully won't) face.

It's exposure, stress, and unknowing. Read the opening of Executive Orders.  wink

... By Tom Clancy.

Umm.. That didn't make it make any more sense  tongue

It's experience. That is the main factor in modding. If you need to start out with no experience, and no maturity, you will...

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#196 2010-09-11 17:41:12

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

Lucario621 wrote:

I personally don't think there should be an age limit, and instead it should just be judged by the personality and scratch experience of the user. People could be too judgmental because of age. And some people are more mature than others at different ages, so it really depends on the person - thus there shouldn't be an exact rule on it.

At first I would agree with you, but after the spam attack my mind has changed I think that, although age matters little, but it is still a decent way to "filter" candidates, and I believe the Scratch team may take age into consideration and if there is a limit, it is a good way to avoid raising hopes of younger members just to dash them when they aren't selected to be in the candidate lists.


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#197 2010-09-11 17:42:47

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

Anyway, I challenge anyone who wants to be a mod, to do this:

I will consider a high rank in my vote for anyone that can remain a positive, helpful, respectful member until the end of the elections.


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#198 2010-09-11 17:45:05

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

Why can't someone argue with themself without being laughed at? D:
My final word on this side-debate:
Age limit: MAAAAYBEEE it should be 7+, or lower. If not, then none at all.

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#199 2010-09-11 17:45:27

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

demosthenes wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

I personally don't think there should be an age limit, and instead it should just be judged by the personality and scratch experience of the user. People could be too judgmental because of age. And some people are more mature than others at different ages, so it really depends on the person - thus there shouldn't be an exact rule on it.

At first I would agree with you, but after the spam attack my mind has changed I think that, although age matters little, but it is still a decent way to "filter" candidates, and I believe the Scratch team may take age into consideration and if there is a limit, it is a good way to avoid raising hopes of younger members just to dash them when they aren't selected to be in the candidate lists.

I know it's been a while since the spam attacks . . . but can New Users post images or Code?

They shouldn't be able to because that's how you get inappropriate images/ASCII art in the forums.

This would pretty much reduce chances of a highly inappropriate spam attack greatly, and could maybe let us ease up on the age limit here.

I don't know if the suggestion I gave is already true or not, but it's just a thought.


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#200 2010-09-11 17:46:13

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Re: Unofficial Community Moderator Election Discussion

demosthenes wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

I personally don't think there should be an age limit, and instead it should just be judged by the personality and scratch experience of the user. People could be too judgmental because of age. And some people are more mature than others at different ages, so it really depends on the person - thus there shouldn't be an exact rule on it.

At first I would agree with you, but after the spam attack my mind has changed I think that, although age matters little, but it is still a decent way to "filter" candidates, and I believe the Scratch team may take age into consideration and if there is a limit, it is a good way to avoid raising hopes of younger members just to dash them when they aren't selected to be in the candidate lists.

I don't really think so. Although the Scratch Team should take it in consideration, they shouldn't focus on it, and put a limit on it. You guys are over-reacting to these situations.

Besides, it's kind of mean disallow certain users to participate in certain activities just because of their age, especially in a place like the Scratch community.


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