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Jonathanpb wrote:

There are WAY too many of those projects for that to work...

It would just pick the top 3 least viewed projects for the front page. Then click see more for the long list.

if only... I work super hard on my games (i.e night parkour) and I have about 90 views.

Harakou wrote:

Like other people have suggested, there are way too many of these projects. And usually, they have no views for a reason.

I agree.

Curated and featured projects help get lesser-known Scratchers on the front-page already, anyway.

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

sanddude wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

There are WAY too many of those projects for that to work...

It would just pick the top 3 least viewed projects for the front page. Then click see more for the long list.

But there are tons of 0 views 0 love-its projects. Besides- most of those projects are just the Scratch cat standing still doing nothing.

So pretty much all of my projects? XD



Anyway, i like this idea.

Usually, the better projects hover in mid-range between the front page and no views. While this is a wonderful idea, the projects that show up are likely to be rather boring, such as the Scratch Cat saying hello, or a gobo walking from side to side. Like Harakou pointed out, those projects have few views for a reason.

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

But there are tons of 0 views 0 love-its projects. Besides- most of those projects are just the Scratch cat standing still doing nothing.

this.

I like this idea, must my projects are updated alot and my top viewed one has 85 views... None of my projects have been curated and I dont get replies through collab topics and show + tell.
But it would just be showing the projects that are just - AN IMAGE - and nothing else that lead to why it only has 3 views.

coppearlix wrote:

It's gotta be:
Something that takes more than 60 seconds to finish, if you examine carefully.
Something that isn't a meme, or a "remix and add your __" or an "I'm Quitting" or an "I just wasted ten seconds of your life."
Something that took a measure of effort to complete.
Something with original sprites and/or backgrounds.

The front page is generally automated... that would involve a lot of human intervention, don't you think?

Personally, I'd be quite content with bringing back the "Surprise Projects" section to the front page... It gave a lot of publicity to some unknown, yet good, projects.

andresmh wrote:

Check this out: http://scratch.mit.edu/latest/givefeedback

Those are recent projects "in need of feedback".

Interesting idea... But I'm not too sure I like it. There's a big chunk of those projects (one of which is called "shut up"    ) that are simply the Scratch Cat and a wizard against a black background. The quality of these projects are significantly lower than those on the front page these days, and even lower than those on "Surprise Projects" even.

I'm still in favour of having Scratch "Surprise!" me again.

andresmh wrote:

True. They are not the most complicated projects, but they are the first projects by many of the creators. They are still learning and would probably benefit from getting some constructive feedback.

But the problem with most of those projects is that they don't really have anything to give feedback on. Most of them have no explanation as to how the project works, what it does, and many of them just generate a random series of numbers, which isn't all that useful, and can't be improved upon.

Last edited by coolstuff (2010-09-04 17:10:01)

scmb1 wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

andresmh wrote:

True. They are not the most complicated projects, but they are the first projects by many of the creators. They are still learning and would probably benefit from getting some constructive feedback.

But the problem with most of those projects is that they don't really have anything to give feedback on. Most of them have no explanation as to how the project works, what it does, and many of them just generate a random series of numbers, which isn't all that useful, and can't be improved upon.

That's true, but these are mostly brand new Scratchers. Maybe they don't understand how useful Project Notes are and a simple comment could convince them. And even super simple projects can be improved on. For example, on a random number generator, an experienced Scratcher could write something along the lines of "Good work! Maybe you could expand this by keeping track of the numbers in a list or by keeping track of how many times each number has been generated. Maybe you could even represent the numbers with a graph. There are lots of possibilities with random numbers!" Even if you can't think of any good suggestions, a welcome is good enough. Do you remember your getting your first meaningful comment? I do. It sure made me happy.

I never saw it that way - thanks!

Still, I would much rather have "Surprise Projects" back again - it served essentially the same purpose, but was quite a bit more effective.

andresmh wrote:

Check this out: http://scratch.mit.edu/latest/givefeedback

Those are recent projects "in need of feedback".

Great!  So, these are mostly new users? 
Should we rename it "Projects by new users that need to be welcomed"?

Concerns: 
- Not all users are ready for feedback, they may just want to test. 
- There is not an easy way to say: "Please give help with [this part of my project]."
- Perhaps less preference should be given to users that post many projects in a short amount of time.
- I think people usually want feedback soon after they upload.

We've discussed this. Thanks!