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#1 2010-09-02 01:17:05

Jonathanpb
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Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

I think we all know those reports in Troubleshooting about how the system said there was something inappropriate in a comment when there wasn't - those cases are when there was an inappropriate word inside a perfectly fine word. This is quite irritating - innocent words that may want to be posted don't work.

Shouldn't the system be fixed so that it only detects inappropriate words if they're not inside others? After all, the forums do that... making the system work like them would be really nice.  big_smile

You can vote for it here if you want.  smile

Last edited by Jonathanpb (2010-09-03 01:23:25)


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#2 2010-09-02 01:18:37

Sunrise-Moon
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

Jonathanpb wrote:

I think we all know those reports in Troubleshooting about how the system said there was something inappropriate in a comment when there wasn't - those cases are when there was an inappropriate word inside a perfectly fine word. This is quite irritating - innocent words that may want to be posted don't work.

Shouldn't the system be fixed so that it only detects inappropriate words if they're not inside others? After all, the forums do that...  big_smile

Then you could hide bad words inside other words/characters. Example: loffendingword

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#3 2010-09-02 01:25:44

Jonathanpb
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

I think we all know those reports in Troubleshooting about how the system said there was something inappropriate in a comment when there wasn't - those cases are when there was an inappropriate word inside a perfectly fine word. This is quite irritating - innocent words that may want to be posted don't work.

Shouldn't the system be fixed so that it only detects inappropriate words if they're not inside others? After all, the forums do that...  big_smile

Then you could hide bad words inside other words/characters. Example: loffendingword

Well, the forums do it the way my suggestion says... try it with the preview feature.


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#4 2010-09-02 09:05:29

coolstuff
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

I agree with you: the censors on the main website definitely need to be reworked. The forum, I think, does this particularly well.  smile

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#5 2010-09-02 12:06:49

fg123
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

Agreed.  smile  It's really weird.

Also the "You posted a similar  message recently"
is glitchy.


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#6 2010-09-03 01:22:59

Jonathanpb
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

fg123 wrote:

Also the "You posted a similar  message recently"
is glitchy.

Well, it does say "similar"...  tongue


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#7 2010-09-03 04:33:20

Chrischb
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

I support!  smile  But sometimes the system says a message is inappropriate when it's fine; there aren't any embedded words.


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#8 2010-09-03 12:04:22

rubiks_cube_guy238
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

The word 'grapes' is inappropriate according to the filter.


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#9 2010-09-03 12:19:00

nXIII
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

The word 'grapes' is inappropriate according to the filter.

yea, but a couple other words which have that in them should be filtered. The best solution might be to have the "censored words" and then each "censored word" has an exception list; words which contain the censored word but don't have anything to do with it (like "grape")


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#10 2010-09-03 14:01:11

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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

it is annoying and i would vote but i'm out. one time i was disscussing a book on my coments page because it was a project about a book and one of the characters names is Gunny and it told me i couldn't post that. and he's a good guy too  tongue .

i think nXIII's solution seems appropriate. and if we find a word that gets filtered and shouldn't we should be able to tell the scratch team (maybe a forum?)


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#11 2010-09-03 17:26:45

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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

Agreed. The forum filters work fine, It should just replicate that.

Last edited by hmnwilson (2010-09-03 17:28:20)


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#12 2010-09-04 13:00:07

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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

This is how most sites block rude words, or at least the way I do on mine.
Scratch is written in a language called PHP. Every website has a file for BB CODES, yes?
So when someone types a smile with : + ) it makes a smile. If someone types a rude word it can be replaced by ****. Just a suggestion, thats what I do on my site and it seems to work.


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#13 2010-09-04 14:10:08

coolstuff
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Re: Improving the way Scratch detects inappropriate words in comments

FlexiStudio wrote:

This is how most sites block rude words, or at least the way I do on mine.
Scratch is written in a language called PHP. Every website has a file for BB CODES, yes?
So when someone types a smile with : + ) it makes a smile. If someone types a rude word it can be replaced by ****. Just a suggestion, thats what I do on my site and it seems to work.

But it is just so easy to cheat the filter in that way... The comment system is also viewed a lot less than the forums are, so it's less likely that filter-cheating will be caught with comments. The comments are too strict, however  hmm  I'm torn between two worlds.

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