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Sunrise-Moon wrote:

poppypaynterscratch wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Why are alien races always the superior race? I think they should be primitive for a change.

well, we're thinking of ones that are advanced enough to go look for sentient life, and find earth. but yes, there is most likely primitive life forms somewhere out there, and theres probably a jungle planet inhabited by 11 foot tall blue cat-people :3

I don't believe in aliens. SO THERE!

Besides, if you were to believe in the Big Bang Theory/Evolution, wouldn't it be really, really, really rare for more life to be produced like that? Like, they'd die out before anyone would/could know about them. Personally, I don't believe in evolution either.

So every animal ever has been around forever then? Including humans?

Also, as I said before, aliens exist, just not near Earth.

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Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

I don't believe in aliens. SO THERE!

Besides, if you were to believe in the Big Bang Theory/Evolution, wouldn't it be really, really, really rare for more life to be produced like that? Like, they'd die out before anyone would/could know about them. Personally, I don't believe in evolution either.

So every animal ever has been around forever then? Including humans?

Also, as I said before, aliens exist, just not near Earth.

Don't pull a Straw Man Fallacy on me- I didn't say that they were around forever. I did, however, say that if the Big Bang Theory was true (and as rare as some scientists make it out to be), then it wouldn't happen that often, and most races would die out before they could be discovered by another race/before another race has been created.

The Big Bang Theory states it only happened once and was the creation of the (known) universe.

What I'm talking about is your view on evolution.  Where did we come from if we didn't evolve?  Where did animals with direct relation to others come from?

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Sunrise-Moon wrote:

BaVB wrote:

In my perspective, if there was some kind of race of sentient beings out there, why would they come here? What would they want from us and our primitive technology (We're not primitive, but compared to THEIR tech, we're primitive)? The only other reason is our homeworld, Earth. Except them why would they be snooping around doing nothing for 50 years?

So I don't believe in UFOs, but I indeed believe in other sentient life.

Why are alien races always the superior race? I think they should be primitive for a change.

Well, the universe is VAST, so there are probably lifeforms more intelligent then us by MILLIONS of years, and some that are just gripping onto the verge of civilization.

The universe is so big to the point where there are probably other habitable planets that do NOT have sentient life on it that the specific race can settle on.

While posting this, I wondered how ships could make it so far. I have multiple suggestions for this. But that's off topic.

BaVB wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

BaVB wrote:

In my perspective, if there was some kind of race of sentient beings out there, why would they come here? What would they want from us and our primitive technology (We're not primitive, but compared to THEIR tech, we're primitive)? The only other reason is our homeworld, Earth. Except them why would they be snooping around doing nothing for 50 years?

So I don't believe in UFOs, but I indeed believe in other sentient life.

Why are alien races always the superior race? I think they should be primitive for a change.

Well, the universe is VAST, so there are probably lifeforms more intelligent then us by MILLIONS of years, and some that are just gripping onto the verge of civilization.

The universe is so big to the point where there are probably other habitable planets that do NOT have sentient life on it that the specific race can settle on.

While posting this, I wondered how ships could make it so far. I have multiple suggestions for this. But that's off topic.

possibly naked singularities? if they could somehow create a matter that would react with ssomething, and become so dense that it made a naked singularity, which they might have figured out how to navigate?

Kileymeister wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

BaVB wrote:

Well, the universe is VAST, so there are probably lifeforms more intelligent then us by MILLIONS of years, and some that are just gripping onto the verge of civilization.

The universe is so big to the point where there are probably other habitable planets that do NOT have sentient life on it that the specific race can settle on.

While posting this, I wondered how ships could make it so far. I have multiple suggestions for this. But that's off topic.

Travel at lightspeed for a few hundred thousand years...

And that's another thing- if there were so many alien races, why do they choose us to visit (and not communicate with) out of so many other planets?

Who says other planet's aren't visited?

I didn't mean that other planets aren't visited (if they are real), I'm saying there are so many other planets, so why do they visit us new idea for a science fiction book (no, it has nothing to do with this. Well, not anything directly related to this) when it'll take them so long to get to us, and they may not even know if we're inhabited, 'n stuff.

Kileymeister wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Kileymeister wrote:

Who says other planet's aren't visited?

I didn't mean that other planets aren't visited (if they are real), I'm saying there are so many other planets, so why do they visit us new idea for a science fiction book (no, it has nothing to do with this. Well, not anything directly related to this) when it'll take them so long to get to us, and they may not even know if we're inhabited, 'n stuff.

True.

I also wondered, (this is kinda related)  if life existed on other planets, would they go to the same heaven?

You're getting multiple beliefs mixed up. Is it the Big Bang Theory/evolution's life is pointless, or Christianity etc. we're made for a reason. One would say there is no heaven, the other says there's a heaven, and a special way to get there.

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First of all, you can't "know" that it was an alien spaceship, because, really, you can't "know" anything (for confussion purposes ignore the comment, even though it's true, if you really want I'll explain it sometime). Anyway, all this talk about the universe being infinite or not can also not be known.  The reason?  We can't see past a certain time in the sky.  We can only see stars so long as their light has had the time to reach us, and if there are stars and galaxies further out, we can't see them yet because of the immensly huge distances.

AtomicBawm3 wrote:

First of all, you can't "know" that it was an alien spaceship, because, really, you can't "know" anything (for confussion purposes ignore the comment, even though it's true, if you really want I'll explain it sometime). Anyway, all this talk about the universe being infinite or not can also not be known.  The reason?  We can't see past a certain time in the sky.  We can only see stars so long as their light has had the time to reach us, and if there are stars and galaxies further out, we can't see them yet because of the immensly huge distances.

I "know" I'm sitting on my couch right now. I "know" I'm typing a post in reply to that comment. I know that I'm alive and real and stuffz (I think, therefore, I am).

AtomicBawm3 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

AtomicBawm3 wrote:

First of all, you can't "know" that it was an alien spaceship, because, really, you can't "know" anything (for confussion purposes ignore the comment, even though it's true, if you really want I'll explain it sometime). Anyway, all this talk about the universe being infinite or not can also not be known.  The reason?  We can't see past a certain time in the sky.  We can only see stars so long as their light has had the time to reach us, and if there are stars and galaxies further out, we can't see them yet because of the immensly huge distances.

I "know" I'm sitting on my couch right now. I "know" I'm typing a post in reply to that comment. I know that I'm alive and real and stuffz (I think, therefore, I am).

My point is that undeniable proof doesn't really exist.  People say science is 100% reliable, but in fact it is only giving us the probability of something.  Science from 100 years ago is very different from science now.  Science is ever changing and can never truly be proved.

We can prove that gravity is there, and that light truly exists scientifically. We can prove the existence of many things. We can't prove some things, but, for the most part, things can be proven scientifically. SO THERE.

No I haven't. I don't believe there are aliens invading and all that stuff, but it is obvious that what ever crashed in Roswell New Mexico in 1947 was NOT a weather ballon. My theory is thus: In WW2, bomber pilots reported flaming objects and flying discs approching there aircraft on bombing raids. They called the "Foo Fighters". Some beleive (Including me), the Germans invented a disc shaped hover craft. After the war, the allies captured this technology, and in October 1947, they were test flying it and then crashed landed in Roswell NM. I mean, why would the Air Corps cause such a fuss and interogat people becasue a weather balloon crashed. Again, thats just a theory. Anything could be possible. In the 60's, the USAF worked with a Canadian aircraft company and built a disc shaped hover craft that looked just like a UFO. Who knows.

Sounds to me like what you saw was just a  neon sign of some sort.

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

AtomicBawm3 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

I "know" I'm sitting on my couch right now. I "know" I'm typing a post in reply to that comment. I know that I'm alive and real and stuffz (I think, therefore, I am).

My point is that undeniable proof doesn't really exist.  People say science is 100% reliable, but in fact it is only giving us the probability of something.  Science from 100 years ago is very different from science now.  Science is ever changing and can never truly be proved.

We can prove that gravity is there, and that light truly exists scientifically. We can prove the existence of many things. We can't prove some things, but, for the most part, things can be proven scientifically. SO THERE.

How do you know, our whole lives aren't just some dream that we might wake up from, or that our world, our whole universe is in a small crystal ball, and were being watched by some little kid staring intently into our world? You have no proof, how do you know that science is really science? Do you know if there are parallel universes all around us that we can't even see? Maybe reality isn't even real, were just inside of some tube that aliens control, we think we're doing normal, daily stuff, but are we? Technically, you can't prove anything... You know all that stuff teachers teach you in school... history, science, well no one really knows about history, it's all just guesses from evidence(that might not be good enough.) Schools just accept it as fact, but technically, it's not