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Lucario621 wrote:

Is it correct that you're using BYOB in your class? And do you have a link to like, videos of the lectures? 

I teach three different classes:

CS 61A, Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, first course for CS majors, has prerequisite of having written recursive functions, uses Scheme.  A complete set of lectures, keyed to my lecture notes and indexed by topic, are at http://wla.berkeley.edu/cs61a.  This semester's lectures will be posted as they occur (well, a few hours later, so tonight you should be able to watch the lecture I just gave) at http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_deta … rid=2010-D.  The course website is http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs61a; it has links to the course reader, the online textbook, etc.

CS 10, The Beauty and Joy of Computing, CS for non-majors, or for people who haven't met the 61A prerequisite, uses BYOB.  No lecture archive yet, but you can watch this semester as it happens (and thereafter) at http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_deta … rid=2010-D.  The course website is http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs10.  The moodle lab assignments are at http://sage.cs.berkeley.edu/course/view.php?id=5.

CS 195, Social Implications of Computers, doesn't use a programming language at all, and I don't think we have lectures online either -- you have to be here.  But the syllabus is at http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs195.

shadow_7283 wrote:

bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

I replied on your talk page, bharvey...

Oh, and I replied to your reply, a while ago!  Don't you have your talk page in your watch list?  I get an automatic email when you (or anybody) edit my talk page.

Yeah, but I've got school during the day, homework and my parent's won't let me on the computer past 8 on a school night.

As for your political statement....

SOCIETY IS SO FICKLE!

Why can't we just make up our minds for a change? Most people who hate George Bush because he sent troops to Iraq don't recall that after 9-11, everyone was practically BEGGING to go at war. It was a matter of national security.

But a few years later, when everything died down, people changed their minds and decided that George Bush is the worst president we've ever had.

Geez.

NO OFF-TOPIC. BAD SHADOW, BAD! 

[EDIT: Weird, no Caps filter...]

Last edited by Lucario621 (2010-08-27 19:02:23)

bharvey wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

Is it correct that you're using BYOB in your class? And do you have a link to like, videos of the lectures? 

I teach three different classes:

CS 61A, Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, first course for CS majors, has prerequisite of having written recursive functions, uses Scheme.  A complete set of lectures, keyed to my lecture notes and indexed by topic, are at http://wla.berkeley.edu/cs61a.  This semester's lectures will be posted as they occur (well, a few hours later, so tonight you should be able to watch the lecture I just gave) at http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_deta … rid=2010-D.  The course website is http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs61a; it has links to the course reader, the online textbook, etc.

CS 10, The Beauty and Joy of Computing, CS for non-majors, or for people who haven't met the 61A prerequisite, uses BYOB.  No lecture archive yet, but you can watch this semester as it happens (and thereafter) at http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_deta … rid=2010-D.  The course website is http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs10.  The moodle lab assignments are at http://sage.cs.berkeley.edu/course/view.php?id=5.

CS 195, Social Implications of Computers, doesn't use a programming language at all, and I don't think we have lectures online either -- you have to be here.  But the syllabus is at http://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs195.

Aweshum!        

Alright, talk page it is...

Let us return to the Nested sprite feature ....
1 - Select the "master" sprite
2 - Then select the "slave" Sprite Icon into the  sprite icon panel, gently, smoothly (*) and drag it upon the "master sprite" displayed on the stage . (* in order to avoid to select the "slave" instead of the "master" )
3 - rearrange both sprites positions accordingly to your project

fullmoon wrote:

bharvey wrote:

Maybe I was unduly influenced by the "US Government" course they made me take to get a California teaching credential (even though it was a math credential -- every teacher had to take this) in which the textbook said (roughly; I don't have it in front of me) "It was a blemish on democracy in the early days of the US that slaves couldn't vote, but it was okay that women couldn't vote, because they were represented by their husbands."

Does your teacher talk about how George Bush carried out a coup d'etat and repealed the Constitution by pushing through the Patriot Act the day after 9/11?

Okay, sorry, Chris, I'll shut up now.

That textbook stuff is scary. I don't know if you're a fan of Stephen Colbert, but he had a  hilarious segment on his show a few months ago that lampooned the state of Texas for trying to rebrand the Atlantic slave trade as the more innocuous "triangular trade".

And no, my teacher never did bring up the Patriot Act, but that's possibly because I only took his Russia Studies class (although I take debate with him this fall!) But I would like to hear about this coup d'état, unless we are really getting too off-topic! 

Lol Stephen Colbert is funny 

Lucario621 wrote:

That gets me thinking... about about block-only lists? 

We're trying to discourage "Make a list" altogether; it's redundant now that we have the LIST block.  Just make a block variable and SET it to a list.

The "contains" block can't be used for strings. It is only for items of lists...

fullmoon wrote:

But I would like to hear about this coup d'état, unless we are really getting too off-topic! 

I was going to reply on your talk page, to make Lucario happy, but seemingly you don't have a wiki account, and since that's Lucario's bad idea, I don't feel guilty. 

The Patriot Act goes against pretty much all of the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution.  (Except for the part about guns -- right wingers love guns.)

Freedom of speech:  People who express ideas critical of the US government now have their right to travel restricted.

Freedom of association:  The government can shut down groups and steal their assets because someone in the group is thought to be sympathetic to terrorists.

Freedom of religion:  ... unless the religion is Islam, which automatically makes you a terrorism suspect.

Freedom from unwarranted search or seizure:  We've been talking about search; check out the conversation on my talk page and Shadow's talk page.  As for seizure, it's now completely routine for CIA agents to grab someone off the street and hustle him off to some country where it's okay to torture people.  (Look up the criminal prosecution of CIA agents in Italy for doing it there.)  And, by the way, although it was Bush who carried out the coup d'etat, it hasn't gone away with him; Obama explicitly authorized the continuation of "extraordinary rendition."

Freedom from self-incrimination:  See notes on torture, above.

Usually, in history, coups d'etat have involved military force.  This one didn't.  It started with the "election" of George Bush by fraud, especially but not entirely in Florida, where his brother is governor.  Aside from the mishandling of ballots and the various dubious results from Republican-controlled computer voting systems, the high point of electoral fraud in Florida was the large-scale arrest of black citizens on election day -- released without charge as soon as the polls closed -- to prevent them from voting.  (Don't take my word for it, look it up.)

Then, the day after 9/11, Bush introduced the Patriot Act, a bill of hundreds of pages, which came to a vote in Congress the following day, before any of the members of Congress had time to read it!  (It was written basically by asking the FBI to list all the things they wished they could do that the constitution didn't allow.)

And then Bush had the good luck to have a few vacancies on the Supreme Court that he could fill with supporters of the coup.

And that's it -- no more Bill of Rights in the US.

fullmoon wrote:

I only took his Russia Studies class

Ah, that explains why we're disagreeing.  There's a world of difference between "Russia Studies" (which is about something) and "Social Studies" (pablum).

bharvey wrote:

fullmoon wrote:

But I would like to hear about this coup d'état, unless we are really getting too off-topic! :)

I was going to reply on your talk page, to make Lucario happy, but seemingly you don't have a wiki account, and since that's Lucario's bad idea, I don't feel guilty. :)

The Patriot Act goes against pretty much all of the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution.  (Except for the part about guns -- right wingers love guns.)

Freedom of speech:  People who express ideas critical of the US government now have their right to travel restricted.

Freedom of association:  The government can shut down groups and steal their assets because someone in the group is thought to be sympathetic to terrorists.

Freedom of religion:  ... unless the religion is Islam, which automatically makes you a terrorism suspect.

Freedom from unwarranted search or seizure:  We've been talking about search; check out the conversation on my talk page and Shadow's talk page.  As for seizure, it's now completely routine for CIA agents to grab someone off the street and hustle him off to some country where it's okay to torture people.  (Look up the criminal prosecution of CIA agents in Italy for doing it there.)  And, by the way, although it was Bush who carried out the coup d'etat, it hasn't gone away with him; Obama explicitly authorized the continuation of "extraordinary rendition."

Freedom from self-incrimination:  See notes on torture, above.

Usually, in history, coups d'etat have involved military force.  This one didn't.  It started with the "election" of George Bush by fraud, especially but not entirely in Florida, where his brother is governor.  Aside from the mishandling of ballots and the various dubious results from Republican-controlled computer voting systems, the high point of electoral fraud in Florida was the large-scale arrest of black citizens on election day -- released without charge as soon as the polls closed -- to prevent them from voting.  (Don't take my word for it, look it up.)

Then, the day after 9/11, Bush introduced the Patriot Act, a bill of hundreds of pages, which came to a vote in Congress the following day, before any of the members of Congress had time to read it!  (It was written basically by asking the FBI to list all the things they wished they could do that the constitution didn't allow.)

And then Bush had the good luck to have a few vacancies on the Supreme Court that he could fill with supporters of the coup.

And that's it -- no more Bill of Rights in the US.

*facepalm*

It's not like a user's talk page is an excuse for talking off-topic. One of the rules of the forums are to not talk about political/religious stuff. That includes this. So don't talk about it. No question about it.

Lucario621 wrote:

One of the rules of the forums are to not talk about political/religious stuff.

Hmm.  I found this:

25. Be careful around controversial topics. If there's a topic that looks like it'll explode, be careful around it. You might not want to post, either; you might set it off. Often topics burst into flames - please be careful and respective.

here.  Am I missing something else?  I think we're all being respectful (I'm guessing that's what the last quoted word means!) in this discussion.  And it's not because of bending over backward, either; I feel nothing but respect toward Shadow and fullmoon, and I'm pretty sure it's mutual.

But, Chris, I honestly didn't realize until this message that your concern was about discussing politics at all, rather than just about discussing it in the BYOB3 forum.  So I haven't been taking your concern as seriously as it deserves; I've been sort of teasing you about what I took as a mere bureaucratic issue.  I'm sorry.  I feel nothing but respect toward you, too, and it may not have seemed that way.

But I don't think you could characterize any of this discussion as trolling; everyone is expressing sincerely held views politely and calmly.  Also, I think that in practice "no political views" means "no non-mainstream political views."  For example, recently we've seen a lot of signatures rooting for the poster's country's Olympic teams.  That's political!  It encourages national patriotism.  But nobody objects because national patriotism is mainstream.  But when I encourage internationalism and class consciousness, that's "political."