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#26 2010-08-22 00:14:34

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Re: Want the front page improved?

Ignoring the word meanings:

"Love it's" are more powerful because of what they do: promote things to the front page under "top loved" and sort tag pages.

"Favorites", are a personal gallery at the bottom half of everyone's user page.  They may be more important to you and people that watch your favorites (not many?), but they don't make them more important to the rest of the site.

(I think "favorites" are (or should be) better than "love it's" because they're not given anonymously; you show what you favorite, you own them in a sense.  But could be made better by combining them with love-its and tags.  But that's favetags again.  smile  )


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#27 2010-08-22 15:22:12

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Re: Want the front page improved?

Great idea, but theres one flaw:
The popular people always have the most lovis, faves, and view. Although, the one week old sorta cancels it out.


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#28 2010-08-22 15:56:42

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Re: Want the front page improved?

I think views should be -1, love-its +2, and faves +5.
That way projects with only a few views, but everyone who looked at it loved it, would get more than one with tons of views but with no-one liking it.

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#29 2010-08-22 17:25:05

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Re: Want the front page improved?

coolperson wrote:

Great idea, but theres one flaw:
The popular people always have the most lovis, faves, and view. Although, the one week old sorta cancels it out.

JTxt suggested this.
Perhaps this can be modified for my suggestion so that the half-life of a more famous Scratcher's projects is shorter than that of a less famous Scratcher's so that more people will have to view the more famous Scratcher's project in order to compensate for the more frequent half-life.

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#30 2010-08-23 03:32:05

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Re: Want the front page improved?

Actually, 08jackt isn't that bad, but I think he's been milking the Radar series for too long... like how Blizzard delayed Starcraft 2 to work on WoW. Anyway, I support. But make the views worthless. I know some good coders that would easily get themselves on the front page in seconds.


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#31 2010-08-24 11:32:32

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Re: Want the front page improved?

Some other people proposed a love-it to view ratio system so that every view decreases the point value and only love-its can increase it.

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#32 2010-08-24 18:19:48

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Re: Want the front page improved?

AddZero wrote:

But could be made better by combining them with love-its and tags.  But that's favetags again.  smile  )

Uh oh he's advertising again xD


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#33 2010-08-24 18:20:55

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Re: Want the front page improved?

colorfusion wrote:

I think views should be -1, love-its +2, and faves +5.
That way projects with only a few views, but everyone who looked at it loved it, would get more than one with tons of views but with no-one liking it.

I see your idea there, but if people saw that their project had negative points, it would make them feel bad. Sort of like the same reason we don't add a "rate from 1-5 stars" suggestion.


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#34 2010-08-25 19:55:54

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Re: Want the front page improved?

Perhaps this can be solved if a project's rating can be represented as a ratio (e.g. 0.5) or a percentage (e.g. 50) so that there can't be negative point values.

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#35 2010-08-25 19:56:49

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Re: Want the front page improved?

Lucario621 wrote:

colorfusion wrote:

I think views should be -1, love-its +2, and faves +5.
That way projects with only a few views, but everyone who looked at it loved it, would get more than one with tons of views but with no-one liking it.

I see your idea there, but if people saw that their project had negative points, it would make them feel bad. Sort of like the same reason we don't add a "rate from 1-5 stars" suggestion.

-1 (or another negative number) for views makes it so that the score becomes like a RATIO of love-it's&faves to views.
So, good projects that don't get many views may have a chance against projects that get a ton of views just because the user is "popular" or they advertise a ton.
This score doesn't have to be visible, but could be used to sort projects. 

I think it may be an improvement over "Top Loved"--  Which encourages people to get popular to get attention, which translates to more love-it's and more attention, sometimes regardless of quality.

Edit:

vortex19 wrote:

Perhaps this can be solved if a project's rating can be represented as a ratio (e.g. 0.5) or a percentage (e.g. 50) so that there can't be negative point values.

Yeah that may help.  But still regardless of how this score is shown or not shown, I think this may make less "feel bad" than just "top loved", because it may treat those that are popular and less popular the same.

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#36 2010-09-02 09:00:46

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Re: Want the front page improved?

Of course I support. Can you add a support part of your post? To show the supporters?


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#37 2010-09-02 20:40:16

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#38 2010-09-03 21:13:53

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Re: Want the front page improved?

I support!


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#39 2010-09-06 12:46:40

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Re: Want the front page improved?

bump
Anyone else support?

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#40 2010-10-20 00:22:06

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Re: Want the front page improved?

good idea!!!!! even though a lot of my projects have over 1200 pts


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#41 2010-10-20 18:30:04

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Re: Want the front page improved?

A favorite means the person likes it so much they want to have it on there home page while a love-it means, "ohh, that's pretty cool. I'm leaving now."

vortex19 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

vortex19 wrote:


This is to encourage quality projects over some other cheap way to get on the front page like "I Quit!" projects, a kid about to die in a flood, etc. I never really liked the "top viewed projects" row because it can easily get corrupted by such projects.

Yes, but what I'm trying to say is that saying something like "This is my favorite project" means a lot more than "I love this project" - a favorite should be worth more than a love-it. People favorite projects less likely than the "love-it" projects, thus favorites should be worth more  smile . I hope that makes sense.

I thought love-it are "better" than favorites. I guess I got it mixed up somewhere. :\


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#42 2010-12-16 23:23:49

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Re: Want the front page improved?

this would be good.  according to your system, my labyrinth game would have:
(69*1) + (5*10) + (4 *5) = 139 points.  but it is a bit old.
EDIT: (85*1) + (7*10) + (4*5) = 175
i'll try and keep this updated

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#43 2010-12-17 11:16:21

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Re: Want the front page improved?

scimonster wrote:

this would be good.  according to your system, my labyrinth game would have:
(69*1) + (5*10) + (4 *5) = 139 points.  but it is a bit old.

This system is good - it gave me 4176 points for one of my projects!  big_smile
But yes, I support!


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#44 2011-06-15 13:56:55

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Re: Want the front page improved?

I had an idea very much like this where you see how many love-its per view someone has.

http://suggest.scratch.mit.edu/forums/60449-suggestions/suggestions/1937307-add-love-its-per-view-to-the-front-page

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