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#1 2010-08-24 21:29:29

Usatt1337
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Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Please put it back up, atleast for a few minutes so I can copy and paste the information on the first post, please.


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#2 2010-08-24 21:30:45

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

I don't think they can undelete threads.


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#3 2010-08-24 21:31:49

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

I think it was because the chatroom was poorly moderated, thus becoming inappropriate.


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#4 2010-08-24 21:32:51

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

PW132 wrote:

I think it was because the chatroom was poorly moderated, thus becoming inappropriate.

No...And they gave me no warning or reason as to why. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can get angry at it. And it wasn't poorly moderated. How would you even know, since you can't go on it?


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#5 2010-08-24 21:34:12

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Yeah, I have absolutely no idea what's going on.


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#6 2010-08-24 21:34:46

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Usatt1337 wrote:

PW132 wrote:

I think it was because the chatroom was poorly moderated, thus becoming inappropriate.

No...And they gave me no warning or reason as to why. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can get angry at it. And it wasn't poorly moderated. How would you even know, since you can't go on it?

Did the trolls get banned when a mod was there yesterday?


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#7 2010-08-24 21:35:32

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

PW132 wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

PW132 wrote:

I think it was because the chatroom was poorly moderated, thus becoming inappropriate.

No...And they gave me no warning or reason as to why. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can get angry at it. And it wasn't poorly moderated. How would you even know, since you can't go on it?

Did the trolls get banned when a mod was there yesterday?

Who are "the trolls"? And actually it shouldn't even matter. I'm not gonna argue about the moderation of the room on this topic. I just need a straight answer from the Scratch TEAM, and this should all be over with.

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#8 2010-08-24 21:36:28

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Usatt1337 wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:


No...And they gave me no warning or reason as to why. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can get angry at it. And it wasn't poorly moderated. How would you even know, since you can't go on it?

Did the trolls get banned when a mod was there yesterday?

Who are "the trolls"?

Lonwol, Kaj, Grigori?


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#9 2010-08-24 21:37:13

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

PW132 wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

PW132 wrote:


Did the trolls get banned when a mod was there yesterday?

Who are "the trolls"?

Lonwol, Kaj, Grigori?

Grigori is not a troll. Neither is lonwol. Kaj probably doesn't even exist.

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#10 2010-08-24 21:38:32

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Aidan wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:


Who are "the trolls"?

Lonwol, Kaj, Grigori?

Grigori is not a troll. Neither is lonwol. Kaj probably doesn't even exist.

REALLY? There IS a user named Kaj there, and both of them were trolling. Luigitailsdoll can vouch.


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#11 2010-08-24 21:39:56

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

PW132 wrote:

Aidan wrote:

PW132 wrote:


Lonwol, Kaj, Grigori?

Grigori is not a troll. Neither is lonwol. Kaj probably doesn't even exist.

REALLY? There IS a user named Kaj there, and both of them were trolling. Luigitailsdoll can vouch.

You know what, it doesn't even matter. The Scratch team never even went on the chat, so they couldn't judge whether it was poorly moderated or not.


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#12 2010-08-24 21:40:07

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

PW132 wrote:

Aidan wrote:

PW132 wrote:


Lonwol, Kaj, Grigori?

Grigori is not a troll. Neither is lonwol. Kaj probably doesn't even exist.

REALLY? There IS a user named Kaj there, and both of them were trolling. Luigitailsdoll can vouch.

Okay, that's enough. Stop posting in here and trying to derail the thread. We need a straight answer here, if you go onto the chatroom I'll explain to you what was happening yesterday.


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#13 2010-08-24 21:41:24

PW132
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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Usatt1337 wrote:

PW132 wrote:

Aidan wrote:


Grigori is not a troll. Neither is lonwol. Kaj probably doesn't even exist.

REALLY? There IS a user named Kaj there, and both of them were trolling. Luigitailsdoll can vouch.

Okay, that's enough. Stop posting in here and trying to derail the thread. We need a straight answer here, if you go onto the chatroom I'll explain to you what was happening yesterday.

I promised I won't go on there anymore. But yes, I'll leave the thread.


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#14 2010-08-24 22:19:56

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Scratch team, explain why this thread was deleted.


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#15 2010-08-24 22:21:57

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

Usatt1337 wrote:

Scratch team, explain why this thread was deleted.

Seem Cheddargirl is on.


Everyone's argument is invalid. Your argument is invalid.

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#16 2010-08-24 22:24:04

Usatt1337
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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

RobotKitty wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

Scratch team, explain why this thread was deleted.

Seem Cheddargirl is on.

An explanation from her would help too.


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#17 2010-08-24 22:25:48

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

RobotKitty wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

Scratch team, explain why this thread was deleted.

Seem Cheddargirl is on.

The thread was deleted by the Scratch Team and not the moderators; in such a case, I (or any other moderator) cannot speak on behalf of the Scratch Team about why they removed the chatroom thread. I sent a report asking for the Scratch Team, asking them to take a look at this thread, hopefully a reply will come soon.


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#18 2010-08-24 22:29:44

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

cheddargirl wrote:

RobotKitty wrote:

Usatt1337 wrote:

Scratch team, explain why this thread was deleted.

Seem Cheddargirl is on.

The thread was deleted by the Scratch Team and not the moderators; in such a case, I (or any other moderator) cannot speak on behalf of the Scratch Team about why they removed the chatroom thread. I sent a report asking for the Scratch Team, asking them to take a look at this thread, hopefully a reply will come soon.

Thank you, please close this thread for now.


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#19 2010-08-25 09:39:23

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Re: Freenode chatroom topic gone???!!!

I deleted the thread for the reasons explained in this post http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=30842

Linking to other sites where insulting discussions ocurr and where trolls hang out is discouraged.

Whether or not that specific chatroom was unmoderated is unclear, but for now I am deciding this based on 2 visits to that chatroom I made. I decided that it is not worth the risk and time to have a link to that site from our site.

Sometimes websites outside Scratch are used for collabs or other positive types of interactions. So the decision of what to delete is somewhat subjective and there is not a clear rule.


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