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#1 2010-08-20 08:35:57

rubiks_cube_guy238
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Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

That title was there to get your attention. The point of this topic is actually the opposite of the title.
Once Scratch 2.0 comes out, many people may think that it will take over/destroy our Scratch mods. However, that is not nesecarily true.

the Scratch Wiki article on Scratch 2.0 wrote:

Scratch will require Adobe Flash Player 10 to work online, though a downloadable version will be available as well

This means that although Scratch 2.0 will be mainly online, a .image will still be avaliable.  big_smile
Hope that clears some things up.  smile

Last edited by rubiks_cube_guy238 (2010-08-24 13:40:11)

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#2 2010-08-20 08:39:32

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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

I don't know who thinks that 2.0 will destroy their Scratch mods, I thought the general understanding was that they'll still be around but they just won't get updates from 2.0.

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#3 2010-08-20 09:09:16

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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

There won't be any .image files. Its not squeak, you only get a swf file i exoect, so it WILL destroy the mods. But I jope they keep 1.4 sourse code up for download.

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3252/gobanim2.gifhttp://ls.gd/bo

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#4 2010-08-20 09:13:18

SabGames
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

Sperry wrote:

But I jope they keep 1.4 sourse code up for download.

Yeah - they will. They still have 1.2 available. And even if they don't, you can get them from beginners.tk  big_smile

http://sabgamesdownload.weebly.com/uploads/5/2/4/8/5248085/4881802.png

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#5 2010-08-20 10:31:21

Billybob-Mario
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

I agree. I made a protest against Flash Scratch post under suggestions.

http://sites.google.com/site/slashproj/Logoss.bmp, my Scratch mod! Now with customizable color scheme!

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#6 2010-08-20 13:07:00

LS97
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

well, you could still re-write your mods in actionscript...

http://modshare.org/L/1.pnghttp://modshare.org/L/2.pnghttp://modshare.org/L/3.pnghttp://modshare.org/L/4.png
Fully functional plugin to create scratchblocks code within Scratch!!

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#7 2010-08-20 14:00:02

songhead95
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

>>>java takes over smalltalk
>>>scratch gets written in smalltalk
>>>html5 takes over flash
>>>Scratch gets written in flash

seriously! does the mit language like to lag one language behind the future?

Last edited by songhead95 (2010-08-20 14:00:27)

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#8 2010-08-20 14:15:47

fullmoon
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

songhead95 wrote:

>>>java takes over smalltalk
>>>scratch gets written in smalltalk
>>>html5 takes over flash
>>>Scratch gets written in flash

seriously! does the mit language like to lag one language behind the future?

There's no way Scratch could be built in HTML5! Take a look at the lag in the experimental viewer, triple it, and you have an idea of what to expect from an HTML Scratch running on the newest hardware on a modern browser.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/fullmoon32/wow.jpg

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#9 2010-08-20 14:55:55

nXIII
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

fullmoon wrote:

songhead95 wrote:

>>>java takes over smalltalk
>>>scratch gets written in smalltalk
>>>html5 takes over flash
>>>Scratch gets written in flash
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seriously! does the mit language like to lag one language behind the future?

There's no way Scratch could be built in HTML5! Take a look at the lag in the experimental viewer, triple it, and you have an idea of what to expect from an HTML Scratch running on the newest hardware on a modern browser.

I believe it's more a compatibility issue than a speed one.

♡ nXIII

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#10 2010-08-20 15:18:22

TheSuccessor
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

I had a look at the HTML 5 spec. I got EXTREMLY bored. http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html

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#11 2010-08-20 15:38:19

coolstuff
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

Scratch 1.x will remain to be supported - and you can continue modifying 1.4 if you'd like. They will have the source code of 2.0 up for download, but obviously that won't be quite as easy because Flash costs a ton of money  smile

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#12 2010-08-20 15:39:43

fullmoon
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

nXIII wrote:

I believe it's more a compatibility issue than a speed one.

You're right, Javascript execution is getting faster every day. But it still doesn't compare to compiled AS3.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/fullmoon32/wow.jpg

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#13 2010-08-20 16:23:24

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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

OMG NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol. You cant mod Flash without having to pay for it????????????????????????????????????????????
The Flash Makers are Too mean.......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now How Can I Mod Scratch 2.0???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ITS GONNA KILL OUR MODS!!!!!!!!

lol random.
Why cant we Just Update Mods So That They Have The New Blocks And Interface Changes??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile   big_smile

Back in my day.... there were no laws that censored the internet... now, there are.... nah.

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#14 2010-08-20 16:46:49

Billybob-Mario
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

We need to band together to make a mod better than anything Scratch Team could make. People can write code to make blocks, or edit Squeak in a block-based way, from mods. Slash has the ability to be run online. We can do it!

http://sites.google.com/site/slashproj/Logoss.bmp, my Scratch mod! Now with customizable color scheme!

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#15 2010-08-20 17:50:55

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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

Billybob Mario 3 things
1.) I still cant get it running online
2.) I think you should just make a pres. mode player online!

3.)

Great idea shall we work together. Look at Claw it has some nice new features!

You can now reach me on Twitter @johnnydean1_

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#16 2010-08-20 18:00:14

Billybob-Mario
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

johnnydean1 wrote:

Billybob Mario 3 things
1.) I still cant get it running online
2.) I think you should just make a pres. mode player online!

3.)

Great idea shall we work together. Look at Claw it has some nice new features!

I hear that it works better on Macs. I can't say for sure, because I don't have one, but that's what I hear.

http://sites.google.com/site/slashproj/Logoss.bmp, my Scratch mod! Now with customizable color scheme!

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#17 2010-08-20 18:36:36

Jonathanpb
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

It won't completely kill your modifications, but you'll have to make them again for Scratch 2.0.  tongue

"Human beings... must have action; and they will make it if they cannot find it.
-Charlotte Brontë

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#18 2010-08-20 19:16:24

scratchisthebest
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

And for those source code people... FLASH COSTS 600$! As long as they have a squeak option, we'll be fine.

bye 1.4, we all loved you. but we all outgrew the site. 2.0 is a welcome change.
http://scratch.mit.edu/img/Pico3-med.pnghttp://scratch.mit.edu/img/Pico3-med.pnghttp://scratch.mit.edu/img/Pico3-med.pnghttp://scratch.mit.edu/img/Pico3-med.pnghttp://scratch.mit.edu/img/Pico3-med.png

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#19 2010-08-20 20:38:17

bbbeb
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

600$?
lol

Back in my day.... there were no laws that censored the internet... now, there are.... nah.

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#20 2010-08-20 20:53:08

soft319
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

I just started working on dingo, my new mod, and now, I can't work on it off of 2.0!!!

And, let me guess. They're not going to have a squeak version.

http://bluetetrarpg.web44.net/usercard/img.php?name=soft319

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#21 2010-08-20 20:56:05

fire219
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

It will not destroy the mods.

You have a number of choices:

1: Continue using the 1.4 source.
2: Find a FREE Flash editor
3: Give me a cookie.
4: Don't make any more mods.

Yes, 3 and 4 are jokes, but 1 and 2 are serious.  big_smile

http://bluetetrarpg.x10.mx/usercard/img.php?name=fire219

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#22 2010-08-20 21:09:46

bendad
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

Billybob-Mario had a great idea, band together to create a mod. Wait, I can just imagine the arguing over what to name it. If we be extremely organized, we might be able to pull it off/

Hi!  big_smile
Good to see you. (Even if I don't know you  wink  )

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#23 2010-08-20 22:34:28

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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

fire219 wrote:

It will not destroy the mods.

You have a number of choices:

1: Continue using the 1.4 source.
2: Find a FREE Flash editor
3: Give me a cookie.
4: Don't make any more mods.

Yes, 3 and 4 are jokes, but 1 and 2 are serious.  big_smile

There ARE free Flash editors, like FlashDevelop! (You can also get Flex Builder 3 free if you're a student).

Also, all of you can get Flash for $250 since you're probably all students. But 2.0 is probably being built with Flex (free), not Flash! I guess we'll see...

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/fullmoon32/wow.jpg

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#24 2010-08-21 00:18:46

coolstuff
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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

fullmoon wrote:

fire219 wrote:

It will not destroy the mods.

You have a number of choices:

1: Continue using the 1.4 source.
2: Find a FREE Flash editor
3: Give me a cookie.
4: Don't make any more mods.

Yes, 3 and 4 are jokes, but 1 and 2 are serious.  big_smile

There ARE free Flash editors, like FlashDevelop! (You can also get Flex Builder 3 free if you're a student).

Also, all of you can get Flash for $250 since you're probably all students. But 2.0 is probably being built with Flex (free), not Flash! I guess we'll see...

Wow - I had no idea! I'll be sure to check those out.

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#25 2010-08-21 01:02:56

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Re: Scratch 2.0 will destroy our Scratch mods!

coolstuff wrote:

Wow - I had no idea! I'll be sure to check those out.

Actually, it turns out you can get the newest version of Flash Builder (née Flex) for free here! I had been using an older version!  big_smile

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn100/fullmoon32/wow.jpg

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