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#1 2010-08-18 02:31:07

Jonathanpb
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Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

The Miscellaneous description reads, "Use this forum if you are not certain if the topic is directly related to Scratch". That doesn't really fit with Miscellaneous's content... most of the topics there have no relevance to Scratch - and honestly, don't belong in the Scratch Forums. Yeah, the description says, "if you are not certain if the topic is directly related to Scratch" - I think those people know that their topics aren't really relevant to Scratch.

Um... those topics don't really fit with the description, do they?


Three choices:

  • Change the Miscellaneous forum's name. "Off-topic" should suffice.
  • Change the Miscellaneous description. Something like "This forum is for discussion topics that are not related to Scratch", maybe - I think that's pretty accurate.
  • Change what's allowed in Miscellaneous. Following the current description, Miscellaneous should contain topics that have some relevance to Scratch, but don't have to have as much as the stuff in All About Scratch.

What do you think?

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#2 2010-08-18 05:07:12

iCode-747
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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

Great ideas... But I still think that I like misc the way it is.  tongue

Some relevance to Scratch would be nice, though. Many topics in misc are seriously silly.  big_smile

So... I agree with all of your points, but... I like misc the way it it.  smile


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#3 2010-08-18 07:25:23

coolstuff
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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

Yeah! Great idea! I'm afraid this may put more emphasis on the already large aspect of chatting on the website, though - and calling it "Off-Topic" doesn't necessarily encompass all of the topics in there. I think the name "Miscellaneous" should suffice.

Changing the description, I agree with - but I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of your description. Something like "This forum is for discussion topics not related to Scratch" sounds a lot more professional than "Whatever you want."

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#4 2010-08-18 08:18:50

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

I'll go change it... ^_^


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#5 2010-08-18 09:22:36

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

The one of those that I like most is the description change. A very slim percentage of that stuff is related to Scratch, so the description should agree with that.


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#6 2010-08-18 16:14:01

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

coolstuff wrote:

Yeah! Great idea! I'm afraid this may put more emphasis on the already large aspect of chatting on the website, though - and calling it "Off-Topic" doesn't necessarily encompass all of the topics in there. I think the name "Miscellaneous" should suffice.

Changing the description, I agree with - but I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of your description. Something like "This forum is for discussion topics not related to Scratch" sounds a lot more professional than "Whatever you want."

I agree 100%


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#7 2010-08-18 16:42:55

adriangl
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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

Changing what's allowed in there is the best choice in my opinion  smile  I agree!


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#8 2010-08-19 01:17:54

Jonathanpb
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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

lol  People all agree with at least one of the suggestions, but we don't all agree on the same one.  tongue


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#9 2010-08-19 01:56:51

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

I'm a bit worried to get too outspoken here.  tongue

-Changing forum name: Eh... sure.
-Changing description: Okay...
-Changing what's allowed in Miscellaneous: *hides under a table with fire extinguisher*

I like the first two the most.  hmm


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#10 2010-08-19 10:56:46

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

1. I don't like changing the name, because then it further-more encourages people to spam more.
2. For the same reason as above.
3. That may the right idea in the mind but there's not much luck with that idea  hmm .


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#11 2010-08-19 11:55:28

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

Here comes the discussions.

DELETE MISC. That's where friends (t)roll together.  tongue


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#12 2010-08-19 13:14:38

coolstuff
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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

fg123 wrote:

Here comes the discussions.

DELETE MISC. That's where friends (t)roll together.  tongue

We're not going to delete Miscellaneous.

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#13 2010-08-19 17:09:29

jackrulez
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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

coolstuff wrote:

fg123 wrote:

Here comes the discussions.

DELETE MISC. That's where friends (t)roll together.  tongue

We're not going to delete Miscellaneous.

I say make a new one on the same website as the TBG's, and archive the old one.


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#14 2010-08-19 17:36:52

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

jackrulez wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

fg123 wrote:

Here comes the discussions.

DELETE MISC. That's where friends (t)roll together.  tongue

We're not going to delete Miscellaneous.

I say make a new one on the same website as the TBG's, and archive the old one.

I answered that before, too:

I daresay I have suggested this directly to the Scratch Team, and after lengthy (as an understatement) discussion, me and the rest of the moderators have decided that it's rather impractical for a number of reasons I won't bore you with here.

However, I will give you the main issue: The TBGs are almost entirely community-run. This is simple with something like the TBGs where very few fights break out, and very rarely; however, on Miscellaneous, spam-like topics and flame wars break out almost consistently. Without the intervention of the Scratch Team as a largely patrolling force of the current moderating team, us moderators would be absolutely worthless. If Miscellaneous were moved to its own section, the new forum would be left with plenty of moderators who know nothing about what they're doing.

We've discussed this in so much detail that you won't believe it.

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#15 2010-08-20 02:44:14

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

Back to the suggestion(s)?  smile


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#16 2010-08-20 02:47:23

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

coolstuff wrote:

jackrulez wrote:

coolstuff wrote:


We're not going to delete Miscellaneous.

I say make a new one on the same website as the TBG's, and archive the old one.

I answered that before, too:

I daresay I have suggested this directly to the Scratch Team, and after lengthy (as an understatement) discussion, me and the rest of the moderators have decided that it's rather impractical for a number of reasons I won't bore you with here.

However, I will give you the main issue: The TBGs are almost entirely community-run. This is simple with something like the TBGs where very few fights break out, and very rarely; however, on Miscellaneous, spam-like topics and flame wars break out almost consistently. Without the intervention of the Scratch Team as a largely patrolling force of the current moderating team, us moderators would be absolutely worthless. If Miscellaneous were moved to its own section, the new forum would be left with plenty of moderators who know nothing about what they're doing.

We've discussed this in so much detail that you won't believe it.

Oh. T_T


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#17 2010-08-20 22:05:13

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Re: Change Miscellaneous name/description/what is allowed in Miscellaneous

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