Scratch

sanddude wrote:

What I have to say about them
1. But every parent has a different view what's inappropriate. We are only using one view (which is everything that could be considered offensive).
2. Yes, there are 5 year old's on Scratch, but not as many as 10-15 year old (who most that I know, can say c**p)
3. Of course. There is no need to use it, but we should be allowed to, if we want to (see above arguments).

Responses to your responses:
1. Yes, every parent has different views. I will not deny that there are many people who are allowed to use those words and worse. BUT, if we don't have any bad words, then both people whose parents have very strict rules AND those who have more lax rules will be able to go on scratch. If we allow bad words, then ONLY those who have more relaxed rules will be allowed to go on scratch.
2.  Let me dig up an old metaphor on the old "Freedom of Speech on Scratch" thread:
It's like this. Imagine that scratch is a playhouse, and inapropriate things are substances you wouldn't want kids to have. You wouldn't want a bottle of the substance open on the counter, even if a few adults hung around in the playhouse, and wanted to have it around. Even if it was covered in warnings to not touch unless you are older than a certain age, you wouldn't want to have it around, because the place is swarming with kids.
Does that clear things up?   
3. Unless there is truly a need to use those words, we should not, due to the two reasons above.

Isn't hell a place in religions? Because why remove it.

sanddude wrote:

shamrocker wrote:

Oooh, I like this! I would be able to post a few more of my pictures, and put different songs in. And anyway, if * is censored, why isn't hell? It my opinion,  hell is a worse swear than *. If you can call them swears.

Amen.

Seriously, stop doing that.
And what is hell to you? It's definitely not worse then *

Hmm... this seems kind of disorganized. It's helpful to create threads about one issue at a time, so that everyone can follow along. This one seems kind of broad and unfocused. Although I do appreciate that you guys are grappling with these issues (because we grapple with them a lot too).

I agree. We should keep it all as is.

sanddude wrote:

NOTES: Thanks to Lightnin for encouraging me to make this! U rock, Lightnin!
Please keep all discussions respectful and clean, as I do not want this to be closed again.

Here's the Less Strict Rules On Scratch thread!

Here are:

3 Common Arguments That Make A Good Point Against My Point
1. We should keep it to every parents level of satisfaction, not just some.
2. There are 5 year old's on Scratch.
3. There is no need to use H**l and C**p

What I have to say about them
1. But every parent has a different view what's inappropriate. We are only using one view (which is everything that could be considered offensive).
2. Yes, there are 5 year old's on Scratch, but not as many as 10-15 year old (who most that I know, can say c**p)
3. Of course. There is no need to use it, but we should be allowed to, if we want to (see above arguments).


Now, I think since the forums are more accessible than projects to 5-year-old's, h**l and c**p SHOULD be censored on the forums, but a bit more obviously (I mean instead of [removed] replace it with "c**p").

However, in projects it should be allowed, but with some limits.
The limit's should be:
1. If a mod finds a project with the words, he/she puts a warning in the project notes.
2. If the project is flagged, it is put in the "not for everyone" category.
3. If a user is under 10, or not logged in, not for everyone projects can not be viewed. (And if a user is 10 or over, he/she could have the option to block viewing of not for everyone projects) Of course, someone could lie about there age, but that would be their fault.


However, I think bathroom words SHOULD be allowed, and in no means censored. Because, for EVERYONE I know, you don't talk about at church, the dinner table, or some kind of public place, but otherwise it's fine.

Discuss, and pretty please with sugar on top keep it FRIENDLY!

I agree with everything. There is definetly no need to use the h-word or the c-word (I'm allowed to say the c-word in real life, but not very often) But about the bathroom words thing: They are fine, just as long as they are not used to gross other users out.

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

shamrocker wrote:

OMF G. * is censored, but not hell? THAT IS JUST WRONG.

Please don't break the filter. * was censored because it was usedbadly. Why is it wrong? Please don't bring religion into this if that's what you're against.

I must have missed that post
Of course * is censored
It means 'Oh my [bad word] gosh/golly/god'
And if that is censored, why isn't hell?
That's simple. It's because hell is a mythological place, and that word isn't.
I believe that would fall under the common sense category

Actually, I was ignoring your post entirely
Pretend mine was directly a quote of shamrocker, not yours and shamrocker's

Actually when I was in 5th grade my art teacher showed us a vid with the D word in it. Lol

rufflebee wrote:

AnimeCreatorArtist wrote:

Actually when I was in 5th grade my art teacher showed us a vid with the D word in it. Lol

My teacher said the "D-word" once. And hell, too.
But it was only because he was reading us a book that said those words.

Don't even get me started with everyone laughing at the guy when he said (insert male body part here) they where loling

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

AnimeCreatorArtist wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

My teacher said the "D-word" once. And hell, too.
But it was only because he was reading us a book that said those words.

Don't even get me started with everyone laughing at the guy when he said (insert male body part here) they where loling

"Loling"
Lol can be 'laugh out loud', or 'laughing out loud'. There's no need to add -ing

Lingol doesn't sound as good as loling. Oh look, a centipede.

boinoinoi wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

"Loling"
Lol can be 'laugh out loud', or 'laughing out loud'. There's no need to add -ing

Lingol doesn't sound as good as loling. Oh look, a centipede.

No Ace said you don't have to add the ing because it can be in the acronym. You know how those work right?

Although I guess "they were lol" wouldn't sound quite right, but you COULD skip all this mumbo-jumbo and just say "they were laughing"

You mean "they were laughing out loud."